Part I 19:52:39 From Kathy Kramer : Hi, We are just doing some pre-meeting review 19:54:00 From Kathy Kramer : We'll start at 8 pm EST 19:56:59 From susan : Hi Kathy, it is best to mute everyone except those who are called on to speak. 19:57:25 From susan : Otherwise, there is too much noise on the line. 20:00:09 From Kathy Kramer : Survey for after the meeting: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CLzoomtraining 20:00:39 From jae : Hello, I'm Janna Gower from West Buncombe NC. I don't have a camera or microphone on my computer, so you can't see me. 20:01:18 From aaron.zober : Hi Janna 20:09:07 From Karen Voelkening-Behegan : Bravo Kathy! 20:12:58 From Rick Kohut : PDF 20:22:48 From andrewgardner1 to Kathy Kramer(Privately) : Kathy, a bunch of people unmuted themselves, and I'm hearing some feedback... 20:30:44 From loulou : We are lucky to have an abundance of organic sourdough breads in NorCal. 20:31:17 From Kathy Kramer to Nancy Brownfield(Privately) : Nancy I am getting a note that you are talking - please un mute yourself if you'd like to say something 20:31:56 From Kathy Kramer to andrewgardner1(Privately) : thanks Andrew - is it better now? 20:32:27 From andrewgardner1 : Yeah, we're really lucky here in Colorado Springs too! For a relatively small town, we have two organic sourdough bakeries! 20:32:48 From Kathy Kramer : Remember to mute yourself if not talking - then unmute to talk so we don't get noise from background 20:32:50 From andrewgardner1 to Kathy Kramer(Privately) : I think so. Thanks! 20:33:11 From loulou : Consider ordering from Organic Bread of Heaven… a wide selection of sourdough breads 20:33:28 From Karen Lyke : In Wisconsin there are several biodynamic places. Doesn't at least one of them offer a decent bread? 20:34:37 From Karen Lyke : Zingerman's in Ann Arbor Michigan has a wonderful bread, altho they don't advertise that it's organic -- they do elaborate on the long fermentation. LaBrea at Kroger also says the right words about fermentation but again no mention of organic, maybe non GMO 20:35:11 From loulou : https://www.ovenfreshdelivery.com/ 20:35:12 From lizzysharp : It does go with the recording 20:35:20 From Jocelin : You can click to save chat before Zoom closes. 20:35:40 From aaron.zober : What are the two breads on Azure? 20:36:16 From Vicki : Blue Skies Bakery used to be from Azure Standard. It is no longer offered but you can order from website. It is excellent! 20:36:23 From Rick Kohut : I'm in Alberta, Canada and it's not legal :( 20:38:25 From Portia Ceruti : This is the only reason I go to Costco, for the bread! We can get organic sliced sourdough from Sacramento Baking Company. These are the ingredients: 20:38:54 From Portia Ceruti : INGREDIENTS: Unbleached Hygluten Flour (Wheat Flour Unbleached, Malted Barley Flour, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Salt. 20:39:36 From LisaBD : Ok, I found the chat box. The link I shared is: http://eugenewestonaprice.org/sourdough/ 20:45:53 From susan : The 2 organic sourdough breads at azurestandard.com do have added organic wheat gluten. Rudi's & Alvarado Street Bakery. 20:46:43 From jae : Raw milk is very controversial here in NC right now. Pet milk is legal. Herdshares are newly legal, but nobody seems to be doing it yet. there is a pretty big backlash going on, and it's emotional, almost like the vaccine debate. I don't have answers but it helps to hear other chapter leaders thoughts. 20:49:36 From Vicki : From http://www.blueskiesbakery.com/breads Blue Heaven Leaven is our signature bread. Combining organic flour with natural leaven (local wild yeast + beneficial bacteria) & over 72 hrs of fermentationIngredients - no GMOs ever: Organic White Wheat Flour Water (pure & untreated) Organic Whole Wheat Flour Organic Rye Flour Natural Leaven (made with Organic Wheat Flour, Pure Untreated Water and Wild Yeast from the air) Untreated Sea Salt 20:54:31 From aaron.zober : Le Pan Quotidien has a good sourdough. If I recall, it’s in the Wise Traditions shopping guide. 21:00:11 From Jocelin : Can you hear me? I have a question? 21:00:12 From Kathy Kramer : survey https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CLzoomtraining 21:00:23 From Karen Lyke : Yup, everything Sally has mentioned thanks! 21:00:37 From susan : This meeting format has been very helpful! Monday evenings are better as we often host health classes on Tuesdays. 21:06:00 From andrewgardner1 : Karen, the links in my PDF Local Resource Guide are clickable. Not sure why yours aren't. 21:06:50 From betty : Dr. Berg educates on the KETO diet has several youtube videos. He emphasizes grass fed meats, pastured eggs, bone broth, raw dairy, especially cheese and cream. High fat, low protein, veggies cooked and some raw, fermented veggies, berries. 20-30 carbs a day. 21:07:17 From Karen Voelkening-Behegan : Thanks, I’ll look into it! 21:09:45 From Caroline in NZ : Thank you. 21:10:03 From loulou : Bye from Northern California!! This was fun! Part II 20:09:07 From Karen Voelkening-Behegan : Bravo Kathy! 20:12:58 From Rick Kohut : PDF 20:22:48 From andrewgardner1 to Kathy Kramer(Privately) : Kathy, a bunch of people unmuted themselves, and I'm hearing some feedback... 20:30:44 From loulou : We are lucky to have an abundance of organic sourdough breads in NorCal. 20:31:17 From Kathy Kramer to Nancy Brownfield(Privately) : Nancy I am getting a note that you are talking - please un mute yourself if you'd like to say something 20:31:56 From Kathy Kramer to andrewgardner1(Privately) : thanks Andrew - is it better now? 20:32:27 From andrewgardner1 : Yeah, we're really lucky here in Colorado Springs too! For a relatively small town, we have two organic sourdough bakeries! 20:32:48 From Kathy Kramer : Remember to mute yourself if not talking - then unmute to talk so we don't get noise from background 20:32:50 From andrewgardner1 to Kathy Kramer(Privately) : I think so. Thanks! 20:33:11 From loulou : Consider ordering from Organic Bread of Heaven… a wide selection of sourdough breads 20:33:28 From Karen Lyke : In Wisconsin there are several biodynamic places. Doesn't at least one of them offer a decent bread? 20:34:37 From Karen Lyke : Zingerman's in Ann Arbor Michigan has a wonderful bread, altho they don't advertise that it's organic -- they do elaborate on the long fermentation. LaBrea at Kroger also says the right words about fermentation but again no mention of organic, maybe non GMO 20:35:11 From loulou : https://www.ovenfreshdelivery.com/ 20:35:12 From lizzysharp : It does go with the recording 20:35:20 From Jocelin : You can click to save chat before Zoom closes. 20:35:40 From aaron.zober : What are the two breads on Azure? 20:36:16 From Vicki : Blue Skies Bakery used to be from Azure Standard. It is no longer offered but you can order from website. It is excellent! 20:36:23 From Rick Kohut : I'm in Alberta, Canada and it's not legal :( 20:38:25 From Portia Ceruti : This is the only reason I go to Costco, for the bread! We can get organic sliced sourdough from Sacramento Baking Company. These are the ingredients: 20:38:54 From Portia Ceruti : INGREDIENTS: Unbleached Hygluten Flour (Wheat Flour Unbleached, Malted Barley Flour, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Salt. 20:39:36 From LisaBD : Ok, I found the chat box. The link I shared is: http://eugenewestonaprice.org/sourdough/ 20:45:53 From susan : The 2 organic sourdough breads at azurestandard.com do have added organic wheat gluten. Rudi's & Alvarado Street Bakery. 20:46:43 From jae : Raw milk is very controversial here in NC right now. Pet milk is legal. Herdshares are newly legal, but nobody seems to be doing it yet. there is a pretty big backlash going on, and it's emotional, almost like the vaccine debate. I don't have answers but it helps to hear other chapter leaders thoughts. 20:49:36 From Vicki : From http://www.blueskiesbakery.com/breads Blue Heaven Leaven is our signature bread. Combining organic flour with natural leaven (local wild yeast + beneficial bacteria) & over 72 hrs of fermentationIngredients - no GMOs ever: Organic White Wheat Flour Water (pure & untreated) Organic Whole Wheat Flour Organic Rye Flour Natural Leaven (made with Organic Wheat Flour, Pure Untreated Water and Wild Yeast from the air) Untreated Sea Salt 20:54:31 From aaron.zober : Le Pan Quotidien has a good sourdough. If I recall, it’s in the Wise Traditions shopping guide. 21:00:11 From Jocelin : Can you hear me? I have a question? 21:00:12 From Kathy Kramer : survey https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CLzoomtraining 21:00:23 From Karen Lyke : Yup, everything Sally has mentioned thanks! 21:00:37 From susan : This meeting format has been very helpful! Monday evenings are better as we often host health classes on Tuesdays. 21:06:00 From andrewgardner1 : Karen, the links in my PDF Local Resource Guide are clickable. Not sure why yours aren't. 21:06:50 From betty : Dr. Berg educates on the KETO diet has several youtube videos. He emphasizes grass fed meats, pastured eggs, bone broth, raw dairy, especially cheese and cream. High fat, low protein, veggies cooked and some raw, fermented veggies, berries. 20-30 carbs a day. 21:07:17 From Karen Voelkening-Behegan : Thanks, I’ll look into it! 21:09:45 From Caroline in NZ : Thank you.