Formula – Homemade Baby Formula

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VIDEO: Chapter leader Sarah Pope has posted a video about making both the raw milk and liver formulas.

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TRANSCRIPT of the Video here (PDF)

Many of the ingredients for these recipes are available from Radiant Life, 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com. Also available from Primal Americana. In Canada, see www.ovioorganico.ca


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Raw Milk Baby Formula

Makes 36 ounces.

Our milk-based formula takes account of the fact that human milk is richer in whey, lactose, vitamin C, niacin, and long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids compared to cow’s milk but leaner in casein (milk protein). The addition of gelatin to cow’s milk formula will make it more digestible for the infant. Use only truly expeller-expressed oils in the formula recipes, otherwise they may lack vitamin E.

The ideal milk for baby, if he cannot be breastfed, is clean, whole raw milk from old-fashioned cows, certified free of disease, that feed on green pasture. For sources of good quality milk, see www.realmilk.com or contact a local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

If the only choice available to you is commercial milk, choose whole milk, preferably organic and unhomogenized, and culture it with a piima or kefir culture to restore enzymes (available from G.E.M. Cultures 253-588-2922 or http://www.gemcultures.com).

Ingredients

  • 2 cups whole raw cow’s milk, preferably from pasture-fed cows
  • 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below) Note: Do NOT use powdered whey or whey from making cheese (which will cause the formula to curdle). Use only homemade whey made from yoghurt, kefir or separated raw milk.
  • 4 tablespoons lactose1
  • 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
  • 2 or more tablespoons good quality cream (preferably not ultrapasteurized), more if you are using milk from Holstein cows
  • 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
  • 1/4 teaspoon high-vitamin butter oil (optional)1
  • 1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil1
  • 1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil1
  • 2 teaspoons coconut oil1
  • 2 teaspoons Frontier brand nutritional yeast flakes1
  • 2 teaspoons gelatin1
  • 1-7/8 cups filtered water
  • 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1, 2

1. Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com. In Canada, see www.ovioorganico.ca
2. Earlier versions of this web page called for 1 tsp of bifidobacterium infantis and 1 tsp of acerola powder–these were typos.
3. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.

Instructions

  • Put 2 cups filtered water into a pyrex measuring pitcher and remove 2 tablespoons (that will give you 1-7/8 cups water).
  • Pour about half of the water into a pan and place on a medium flame.
  • Add the gelatin and lactose to the pan and let dissolve, stirring occasionally.
  • When the gelatin and lactose are dissolved, remove from heat and add the remaining water to cool the mixture.
  • Stir in the coconut oil and optional high-vitamin butter oil and stir until melted.
  • Meanwhile, place remaining ingredients into a blender.
  • Add the water mixture and blend about three seconds.
  • Place in glass bottles or a glass jar and refrigerate.
  • Before giving to baby, warm bottles by placing in hot water or a bottle warmer. NEVER warm bottles in a microwave oven.

Variation: Goat Milk Formula

Although goat milk is rich in fat, it must be used with caution in infant feeding as it lacks folic acid and is low in vitamin B12, both of which are essential to the growth and development of the infant. Inclusion of nutritional yeast to provide folic acid is essential. To compensate for low levels of vitamin B12, if preparing the Milk-Based Formula (above) with goat’s milk, add 2 teaspoons organic raw chicken liver, frozen for 14 days, finely grated to the batch of formula. Be sure to begin egg-yolk feeding at four months.


Liver-Based Formula

Makes about 36 ounces.

Our liver-based formula also mimics the nutrient profile of mother’s milk. It is extremely important to include coconut oil in this formula as it is the only ingredient that provides the special medium-chain saturated fats found in mother’s milk. As with the milk-based formula, all oils should be truly expeller-expressed.

Ingredients:

  • 3-3/4 cups homemade beef or chicken broth
  • 2 ounces organic liver, cut into small pieces
  • 5 tablespoons lactose1
  • 1/4 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis2
  • 1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below)
  • 1 tablespoon coconut oil1
  • 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil3
  • 1 teaspoon unrefined sunflower oil1
  • 2 teaspoons extra virgin olive oil1
  • 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder1,2

1. Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333, www.radiantlifecatalog.com.
2. Earlier versions of this web page called for 1 tsp of bifidobacterium infantis and 1 tsp of acerola powder–these were typos.
3. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.

Instructions:

  • Simmer liver gently in broth until the meat is cooked through.
  • Liquefy using a handheld blender or in a food processor.
  • When the liver broth has cooled, stir in remaining ingredients.
  • Store in a very clean glass or stainless steel container.
  • To serve, stir formula well and pour 6 to 8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle.
  • Attach a clean nipple and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)

Q.  Why does the infant formulas include lots of vegetable oils like sunflower and olive oil? These are very high in linoleic acid.

A. Answer from Chris Masterjohn. The amount of sunflower oil and olive oil in the infant formula recipe provides the amount of unsaturated fatty acids found in the milk of modern American mothers. I have found compelling evidence that arachidonic acid and DHA are necessary for infant development, but not linoleic acid.  That said, linoleic acid serves as a precursor for arachidonic acid, so I think the formula should have some linoleic acid (mainly from the sunflower oil).  However, it is likely that current linoleic acid levels in breast milk are higher than they otherwise would be, not because they are needed, but because they are present in excess as a result of the consumption of vegetable oils.  So I think the amount of linoleic acid in the formula should be normalized to pre-1960 data for Americans, or, better, if they are available, to data from breast milk concentrations of mothers from traditionally living populations that had not yet encountered dietary vegetable oils at the time the data were collected. This would mean reducing the amount of sunflower oil by half.


Fortified Commercial Formula

Makes about 35 ounces.

This stopgap formula can be used in emergencies, or when the ingredients for homemade formula are unavailable.

Ingredients:

  • 1 cup milk-based powdered formula1
  • 29 ounces filtered water (3 5/8 cups)
  • 1 large egg yolk from an organic egg, cooked 3 1/2 minutes (See recipe for egg yolk, below)
  • 1/2 teaspoon unflavored high-vitamin or high-vitamin fermented cod liver oil or 1 teaspoon regular cod liver oil2

1. We are sorry to report that the Mead Johnson (Enfamil) Low Iron formula we previously recommended is no longer available. In fact, all commercial formula now contains iron, by FDA decree. The best choice for commercial formula today seems to be Baby’s Only Organic Dairy Formula. It contains iron but otherwise contains higher quality ingredients than any of the other commercial formulas. It is also the only brand on the market at this time without the Martek DHASCO and ARASCO additive. If you are forced to use commercial formula, make sure that baby is getting cod liver oil, either added to the formula or given with an eye dropper or syringe. As soon as possible, introduce solid foods like egg yolk, liver, meat and bone broths.

2. Use only recommended brands of cod liver oil. See our recommendations here.

Instructions:

  • Place all ingredients in a blender or food processor and blend thoroughly.
  • Place 6-8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle. (Store the rest in a very clean glass jar in the refrigerator for the next feedings.)
  • Attach a clean nipple to the bottle and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)

Egg Yolk for Baby

Egg yolk should be baby’s first solid food, starting at 4 months, whether baby is breastfed or formula-fed. Egg yolks from pastured hens will contain the special long-chain fatty acids so critical for the optimal development of the brain and nervous system. The whites may cause an allergic reaction and should not be given to baby until he is at least one year old.

Ingredients:

  • 1 organic egg from a pasture-fed hen
  • 1/2 teaspoon grated raw organic liver, frozen for 14 days Note: It is VERY important that the liver be frozen for 14 days before using.

Instructions:

  • Boil egg for 3 1/2 minutes.
  • Place in a bowl and peel off shell.
  • Remove egg white and discard.
  • Yolk should be soft and warm, not hot, with its enzyme content intact.
  • If you wish to add liver, grate on the small holes of a grater while frozen. Allow to warm up and stir into egg yolk.

Homemade Whey

Makes about 5 cups.

Homemade whey is easy to make from good quality plain yoghurt, or from raw or cultured milk. You will need a large strainer that rests over a bowl.

If you are using yoghurt, place 2 quarts in a strainer lined with a tea towel set over a bowl. Cover with a plate and leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Place whey in clean glass jars and store in the refrigerator.

If you are using raw or cultured milk, place 2 quarts of the milk in a glass container and leave at room temperature for 2-4 days until the milk separates into curds and whey. Pour into the strainer lined with a tea towel set over a bowl and cover with a plate. Leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Store in clean glass jars in the refrigerator.

Source: Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon with Mary G. Enig, PhD.

 


Formula Making Tips

A reader shares her handy tips for making up formula quickly.

All three of my children have had slow starts with breastfeeding, so I appear to have low milk supply issues. We started supplementing with formula three months ago and my sweet baby girl is healthy, gaining weight, content, and an absolute delight.

I’d like to share a couple tips and tricks that help me avoid making mistakes–especially when I’m sleep deprived.

  • First, I took a permanent marker and wrote on the lids or packages of each ingredient how much I would need.
  • Then, on my printed recipe, I made a list of things I would need to get out: blender, small saucepan, spatula, measuring spoons, 1/4 cup measure.
  • I also like to add all the dry ingredients first so the measuring spoons stay dry. I add the oils last and don’t worry about washing them between each ingredient.
  • Finally, I keep all of my refrigerated ingredients together in one compartment of the door and all of my other ingredients together on one shelf in a cabinet. When it’s time to make formula, I get out all the ingredients and put each one away as it’s used to avoid accidental doubling.
  • Oh, and I mix in the cream after I’ve used the blender because it’s the cream that leaves the frothy bubbles on top that are difficult to mix in.

It takes me about 10 minutes now to mix up a batch. My basic routine looks like this:

  1. Set all tools, ingredients, and recipe on counter.
  2. Measure 2 cups water, remove 2 tbsp.
  3. Put half of water in small saucepan.
  4. Turn dial on stove to 3.5 (low heat).
  5. Add gelatin and lactose and set coconut oil nearby.
  6. Stir with baking spatula.
  7. In blender, add milk and whey (put back in fridge).
  8. Add all dry ingredients (put back in cabinet or fridge).
  9. Then add all oils (except coconut).
  10. Stir water mixture again.
  11. Take off heat, add coconut oil.
  12. Stir slowly until melted.
  13. Add remaining water and pour into blender.
  14. Blend for three seconds.
  15. Add cream and stir.

Since I only use enough for one or two bottles a day, I usually leave out what I’ll need for the next two days and freeze the rest in glass jars, putting what I’ll need for the day in each jar. Her needs have changed so much since we first started, so making one batch at a time suits us well. I feel confident that she is being nourished both by my breastmilk and by the homemade formula she now takes only at night. Thank you SO MUCH for posting the recipe, the testimonials, and the Q&A’s. I’ve read through each page at least twice!

Lori

 


Breast Milk and Homemade Formula Nutrient Comparison Chart

Based on 36 ounces.

These nutrient comparison tables were derived from standard food nutrient tables and do not take into account the wide variation in nutrient levels that can occur in both human and animal milk, depending on diet and environment.

Breast Milk Cow’s Milk
Formula
Goat Milk
Formula
Liver-Based
Formula
Calories 766 856 890 682
Protein 11.3g 18g 18g 15g
Carbohydrates 76g 79g 77g 69g
Total Fat 48g 52g 54g 36g
Saturated Fat 22g 28g 30g 16g
Mono Fat 18g 16g 16g 12g
Poly Fat 5.5g 5.6g 5.7g 5.6g
Omega-3 FA .58g 1.3g 1.2g 1.0g
Omega-6 FA 4.4g 4.2g 4.4g 4.5g
Cholesterol 153mg 137mg 166mg 227mg
Vitamin A* 946IU 5000IU 5000IU 20,000IU
Thiamin-B1 .15mg 1.05mg 1.1mg .19mg
Riboflavin-B2 .4mg 1.2mg 1.2mg 1.9mg
Niacin-B3 1.9mg 2.5mg 4.4mg 14.2mg
Vitamin B6 .12mg .51mg .60mg .65mg
Vitamin B12 .5mcg 1.9mcg 2.8mcg 39mcg
Folate 57mcg 236mcg 284mcg 159mcg
Vitamin C 55mg 57mg 59mg 62mg
Vitamin D 480IU 450IU 525IU 460IU
Vitamin E*** 9.9mg 6.2mg 4.7mg 4.9mg
Calcium 355mg 532mg 548mg NA**
Copper .57mg .38mg .58mg 1.9mg
Iron .33mg 1.4mg 2.2mg 5.4mg
Magnesium 37.4mg 91.3mg 96.1mg 34.5mg
Manganese .29mg .034mg .12mg .24mg
Phosphorus 151mg 616mg 729mg 344mg
Potassium 560mg 949mg 1228mg 750mg
Selenium 18.8mcg 15.4mcg 18.7mcg 31.1mcg
Sodium 186mg 308mg 320mg NA**
Zinc 1.9mg 2.8mg 2.7mg 2.5mg

* Vitamin A levels in human milk will depend on the diet of the mother. Nursing mothers eating vitamin A-rich foods such as cod liver oil will have much higher levels of vitamin A in their milk. Commercial formulas contain about 2400 IU vitamin A per 800 calories.

** Calcium and sodium values for homemade broth are not available.

*** Vitamin E values are derived from commercial vegetable oils. The vitamin E levels for homemade formulas will be higher if good quality, expeller-expressed oils are used.

 


 

Recipe Below Will Make 36 Ounces
Ingredient Quantity Unit of Measure Price
Raw Milk 2 Cup $1.38
Liquid Whey 1/4 Cup $0.28
Lactose 4 Tablespoon $0.35
Bifodobacterium Infantis 1/4 Teaspoon $0.48
Cream 2 Tablespoon $0.09
Regular Cod Liver Oil 1 Teaspoon $0.11
High Vitamin Butter Oil 1/4 Teaspoon $0.31
Sunflower Oil 1 Teaspoon $0.03
Extra Virgin Olive Oil 1 Teaspoon $0.06
Coconut Oil 2 Teaspoon $0.13
Nutritional Yeast Flakes 2 Teaspoon $0.08
Gelatin 2 Teaspoon $0.20
Filtered Water 1-7/8 Cup $0.00
Acerola Powder 1/4 Teaspoon $0.06
Batch Total $3.54
Baby Formula Cost Comparisons
Brand/Product Cost/Ounce Cost/Year Avg. 1st Year Savings
Nourishing Traditions $0.10 $953.89
Earth’s Best Organic with Iron $0.17 $1673.93 $720.05
Vermont Organics $0.15 $1442.97 $489.08
Bright Beginnings Organic $0.13 $1238.56 $284.67
Similac Organic Infant $0.16 $1576.85 $622.96
Enfamil Premium Newborn $0.15 $1413.41 $459.52

Below feeding schedule referenced from Earth’s Best website.

Month Feedings/Day Oz/Feeding Daily Oz
1 7.0 2.5 17.5
2-4 5.5 5.0 27.5
5-6 5.0 7.0 35.0
7-9 27.0
10-12 24.0
1st Year Ounces 9690

Recipe Directions

1. Add gelatin and lactose to half of the water and heat gently until gelatin is dissolved.
2. Stir in remaining water, coconut oil, and optional butter oil.
3. Place all ingredients in a blender and blend well.
4. Transfer to a very clean glass container, and store in refrigerator.

Feeding

1. Pour into a very clean glass bottle, attach nipple, and heat in a pan of simmering water.
2. Never heat formula in a microwave oven.
3. Shake bottle well and feed baby.

229 Responses to Formula – Homemade Baby Formula

  1. Vanessa says:

    I can’t find what quantity of the liver based formula should be consumed daily pertaining to an infant’s age. I have a 3 month old, how many ounces should he take per day?

  2. Belinda says:

    How can you reduce the phosphorus levels in the raw milk formula recipe?

  3. Anthony Montaleone says:

    This saved my babies life.. He loved it!!! He wasn’t gaining weight and he totally turned around.. Healthy Happy Baby!! Thank you thank you thank you!!!

    • brook says:

      I didn’t know how to post a comment so I’m just sticking mine in with Anthony’s post. This website took me a while to find. But I had been having troubles at 4 months with production my levels were down quite a bit I tried everything in the book to boost supply and nothing worked. I was back to work and stress and my job probably played a big key in my low production. Me and my co-worker were both back from maternity leave and wanted another option other than similac or powder formula we even noticed the organic ones didn’t look healthy for a baby. I have been breastfeeding 6 times a day for her and the rest I’ve supplied with this recipe. I bought my raw cows milk and hour away from my house. found it on realmilk.com and the farmers were amazing and so knowledgeable! they had so much pride in what they do. she has been drinking the formula a few times a day and absolutely loves it tastes just like my milk and shes had no fussiness and her bowel movements and personality are the exact same as always thank you to this website you are truly a pioneer in helping others with your knowledge and bringing things back to the basics thank you !!

  4. Erin says:

    In light of the recent nutritional analysis performed on two different specimens of properly made traditional bone broth that revealed surprisingly low levels of calcium (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/bone-broth-calcium/), are there plans to revise the bone broth and liver based formula? Furthermore, has anyone who has used the liver-based formula with a very young infant ever noticed any ill effects from the lack of calcium as they have matured?

    • karla says:

      Ive been using the liver based formula using chicken liver and chucken broth as it appears on the hypoallergenic formula. I started using the raw milk formula at 2 weeks old but my baby was alergic to tje protein in the milk so I switched at about 1 month old to the liver based formula and my baby is big and healthy. I have 3 boys a 9 yearold and 8 year old this is my 3rd son and the first one ive done this home made formula with and he looks alot healthier than my other 2 boys. He even teethed at 2 months. So I have not had any problems with this formula. His pediatrician said he was one of the healthiest babies he’s seen.

      • beverly simmons says:

        Karla, we found my 6 month old has severe milk allergy. Do you still include the whey in the liver formula?

      • sarah says:

        Hi, Could you tell me how many ounces of the liver formula you give your baby per day? Is there any concern about them getting too much vitamin A from the Liver or just a general concern from them eating too much liver? I don’t see that addressed anywhere.

        Thank you,

        Sarah

      • Hannah says:

        I’m concerned for my 7 week old he has developed a rash around his mouth and im worried it’s an allergy to the cow formula, I’ve taken out the yeast and nothing changed now I’ve removed the whey and the yeast. I’m nervous to try the liver formula, can I just boil bones and not add the vinegar and peppercorn or do I have to follow the revipe exactly also how long do I simmer the broth for the baby formula 12 ,24, or 72 im so worried about my baby. Not being able to produce enough bm had been torture, anything you can tell me about symptoms of your baby’s allergy and tips for the liver formula would be so helpful

  5. Stefano says:

    Hi
    My baby is a 29 week preemie, the dotctor put her on an Hi energy and Hi protein commercial formula, becouse she sad this will help her to grow. Is your home made formula Hi energy and rich in protein? Would you suggest the home made formula to a premature baby, and starting at wich age?
    I’d really like to feed my baby with some healty good home made food
    Thank you Stefano

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Protein and calorie information is in the chart above in the article and you can compare to the commercial formula. You can start at any age.

  6. eloisa obregon says:

    How do I make homemade broth? what’s better chicken or beef stock?
    My baby has severe eczema and I have tried everything, making homemade formula is the next thing to try, I think she is allergic to the milk on her formula and the eczema started at 3 months and one week when she began to depend more on the formula since I could not longer breastfeed her.
    Thanks!

  7. Kirsty says:

    i dont have acerola in SOuth Africa, am i able to use buffered vit c, 250mg? or ascorbic acid (gmo free) ?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Answer from Sally: I would just not add anything. When you start solid food, be sure to include foods with plenty of vitamin C (and there is more vitamin C in liver than in most plant foods).

    • Bill says:

      Have you tried amazon.com for acerola? Not sure if shipping over seas is available but I know they carry several options for acerola powder

    • Check that the acerola does not contain malto-dextrin which is usually gmo…

      if the product is gmo free- no worries.

  8. Verne power says:

    I am not always able to get a supply of raw goats milk so will have to use full fat organic goat milk powder. Can you advise how best I go about using this?

  9. Sherree says:

    Should DHA & ARA be added to the Raw Milk Formula?

  10. gina says:

    thank you for all of this wonderful info!!

    i’m sure this is listed somewhere but can’t find…how long does the homemade formula (with raw cow dairy) last in the fridge/freezer?
    and, how long for the fortfied commercial recipe?

    thank you!
    gina

  11. Maxine serrette says:

    My son was born premature at 34 weeks and I had to stop breast feeding early. He is on organic senstive formula because he has acid reflux I will like try the homemade formula for him because I don’t like the commercial brands. Is it to early to start him on this formula he is 4.5 months now.

  12. Kaitlyn says:

    Can brewer’s yeast be used in place of the nutritional yeast flakes?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      The Frontier nutritional yeast flakes are the only product for the formula we recommend. If baby is having trouble with the formula, you can leave them out.

  13. Janelle Troyer says:

    I just started my 8 month old on this and she enjoys it, but she doesn’t think it’s “good to the last drop”. What can I do about all of the oil rising to the top and being left at the end of the bottle? I haven’t even added the cod liver or butter oil yet. My husband suggested using an unqualified, perhaps sunflower lecithin? Would that work? Has anyone tried this?

  14. Janelle Troyer says:

    Sorry, incorrect made a mistake…I meant emulsifier, not unqualified.

  15. Daniela says:

    Hi, my twin boys have been constipated and have not had a bowel movement since Saturday. Yesterday I had to put a syringe of warm water up them to remove bowels. Can you please tell me what to do to get them regular. 3 days without bowels is long even though at one month they don’t go everyday. I heard to use the black molasses. Just can’t seem to find out where it is on the site. How do I use it? Is the molasses the best option? Please let me know. Thank you

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally: Is there a holistic practitioner you can contact about this. There is a digestive tea for baby in Nourishing Traditions that seems to work well.

      • Rachael says:

        Hi Tim,

        My baby is allergic to olive oil and codfish. What can I use in place of the olive oil and cod liver oil? Thanks!

  16. Amanda says:

    Any idea of how to alter the raw milk recipe for a mom wanting to use her own breastmilk? The baby is a special needs baby and does not tolerate commercial formula added to breastmilk but does not gain on breastmilk only…

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally: She could make the formula and then add whatever breast milk she has. I know of moms who have done this.

      • Amanda says:

        The issue is not supply but calories per ounce… If she were to substitute 1/3-1/2 of the water with breastmilk would that be okay? She is needing 35 calories per oz…

  17. Aubrey says:

    Does the raw liver have to be specifically from beef? We have an outstanding supply of venison liver but I wonder if there are any nutrient differences? Is it safe and nutritionally sound to feed venison liver to children (after being frozen for 14 days)? I am very interested to find out.

  18. Chasity says:

    Do you personally prefer raw cow’s milk or raw goats milk? If we have no source of raw milk available what is the best option as we are trying to avoid all commercial formulas if at all possible when our stock of breatmilk is depleted?

    Also does the milk have to be offered to the baby in a glass bottle or can it be in a typical BPA free plastic bottle?

    Lastly are there any recomendations on cream or yogur/kefir?

    Thanks so much. I’m very intrigued by this formula as I said above we are looking to avoid commercial formulas.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      Goat milk is deficient in B12 and Folate. Also more likely to make a baby constipated.
      If no raw milk, your best option would be the liver formula. But contact your nearest local chapter to find raw milk in your area.
      BPA-free plastic would be ok.
      For baby? You can add raw or lightly pasteurized cream to the formula
      It has worked very well for hundreds of babies.

  19. Justine says:

    We have been using the cow milk formula for about a week now and so far so good. Our baby is now going to daycare so we want to make sure they have all the right info. How long can the formula be out of the fridge during a feeding? If she does not finish a bottle can it be saved for later or does it need to be tossed? Thanks!

  20. Tricia says:

    Hello — we have been using the homemade formula recipe (raw milk) for a few weeks for our 2 month old daughter, and are very pleased thus far. One question, we had an issue with clumping and clogging of the nipple. I tried reblending and straining but no dice. The consistency of the formula in a warmed bottle seemed like it had small pieces of something in it. I threw away the batch, opened a fresh gallon of raw milk, made a new batch and the problem went away. Do you know why this may have happened? Could it have been the milk or was it something else?

  21. Portia says:

    My baby had colic the first couple months and issues with constipation. I took all dairy out of my diet and now he is 8 months and deciding if I should go raw milk or raw goats milk formula?

  22. Abby says:

    I was wondering what kind of coconut oil you recommend. I’m assuming organic virgin coconut oil, but would fractionated coconut oil work? It is already liquid so it seems that would make it easier to mix.

  23. justin says:

    Our baby just spits the formula (raw milk) back up. We think he is dairy sensitive. We are going to try the goats milk but are wondering if cow livers will work?

  24. Jessica says:

    I’ve read that more than 2000 IU of Vitamin A daily is harmful to infants. The liver-based formula is very high in Vitamin A and would be much higher than 2000 IU/day according to the chart above. Can you tell me if what I have read is true and what you would suggest to lower the Vitamin A content if the info is true?
    Thank you

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Supplementing with synthetic vitamin A is not good. Supplementing with natural vit. A that is not balanced with vit. D is also not good. The liver formula contains cod liver oil as a source of vit. D so the A and D are balanced and there should be no problem.

  25. Stephanie says:

    I’ve been making the raw milk recipe for a few weeks now but it’s only for supplementing. I freeze what I’m not going to use in two days. Is this ok? Also I’ve noticed a lot of the powder settles to the bottom of the bottle after warming it. What can I do to not have this happen?

  26. amanda strand says:

    would a dairy sensitive lil one be able to tolearte the raw milk formula?
    can one make teh goats’ milk one w/o the lactose so as to avoid the dairy?
    can one replace teh whey with kombucha, water kefir or kefir whey?
    can one replace the coocnutoil with anything?
    can one sub this for the cod liver oil?:http://www.vitacost.com/natures-answer-liquid-omega-3-fish-oil-natural-orange-16-fl-oz
    should egg yolk be intro duced if her daddy is allergic to them?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      1. You will just have to try
      2.The lactose is important, so try it first. If the baby react, then remove it. but there is lactose in goat milk.
      3.NO
      4.Best not to
      5.Absolutely not
      6.Yes, try it.

  27. amanda strand says:

    bifidobacterium infantis
    can one substitute this with anything? id liek to sub with something non dairy?

  28. Victoria says:

    Our daughter has been on this for about a week now and her poops have changed drastically. She was full breast milk before and we switched to half and half and is now fully on the formula. Her poop is very hard and she cries everytime she is trying. Should we just add extra water or what would you recommend?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      Are you using goat milk? Because this has a tendency to cause constipation. First thing, try cows milk.

      Other suggestions: Add more cream to the formula; give the baby a little prune juice in a bottle; try the digestive tea in Nourishing Traditions; use a suppository to help the baby go.

  29. Bill says:

    Our little fella almost always gets the hiccups after drinking this formula. Is there a reason for this, something we should or could do for them? The hiccups that is.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      Maybe he is getting the formula too fast–try giving it slower

    • Jesiel says:

      I think it’s just the way the baby drinks. My husband and I just made the formula for the first time today m. Before this, she was drinking Earth’s Best and she always has hiccups. I want to say it’s drinking to fast. It could be the temperature of he milk too.

    • C says:

      I exclusively breastfeed and my newborn hiccups after every feeding. Hiccups are caused by the diaphram spasming, and a full tummy puts pressure on the diaphram, causing it to spasm. It doesn’t matter how fast the baby eats or how much gas they have. It’s normal & harmless. You don’t need to do anything.

  30. Lori says:

    Can you tell me how many capsules of the desiccated beef liver powder to use in one 36 oz. batch of the liver based formula to equal 2 oz. of fresh liver. The capsules are 750 mg. each. Thanks so much! Very excited to see if our 4 month old will be able to recover from his eczema issues once he is off the commercial formula.

    • beverly simmons says:

      Lori, did you have any luck with the liver formula? My 6 month old can take any dairy, even formulas deemed ‘hypoallergenic’ or for diary sensitivities. Do you still include lactose and whey in the recipe?

  31. Alana says:

    Thanks for all of the incredible information! I’m just getting started with homemade formula for our newborn. A few questions:
    1- How long will homemade whey last in the refrigerator?
    2-This is probably a silly question- is the yogurt still usable after straining the whey away?
    3-Is there a ‘best’ way to de-thaw frozen milk (over time in fridge or at room temperature)?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      1 – Whey will probably last at least a few months in the refrigerator
      2 – Yes, yogurt is still usable
      3 – Milk can take a long time to thaw so it depends on how fast you want it to thaw. You can leave a quart at room temperature for about 8 hours and it probably won’t be completely thawed but you can pour off and use what has melted so far. If you’re in no hurry, leave it in the refrigerator.

    • Jesiel says:

      Or whenever you buy the gallon, distributed some in small jars or bottles then freeze it. That way you’re thaw a little at time instead of having to freeze, thaw, and refreeze a whole gallon.

  32. Alexis Shinpo says:

    I have started giving my 3 month old the raw milk formula recipe for the past 4 days. She has had a regular soft bowel movement a day since she was born… her stool seems to now be getting smaller in quantity and firm.. she seems constipated and agitated… is there anything I can do to help this? I don’t want to go back to commercial formula!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      There are a number of suggestions in our book The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby and Child Care. Giving a little prune juice can help. Also adding cream to the formula. If baby is uncomfortable, use an infant supository.

  33. Alana says:

    I don’t have access to raw milk where I live so I am using organic, unhomogenized milk. My culture won’t arrive until next week because of Monday holiday. Is there anything else I can use to culture the milk (yogurt)? Thanks!

    • Alexis Shinpo says:

      Maybe that is why my baby is constipated.. i don’t have access to raw milk so I likewise have been using organic unhomogenized milk.. but I do not culture the milk… what is that? & how do I do it? Thano you!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      Are you sure? Where do you live? Contact your nearest WAPF chapter leader to find raw milk. This would be MUCH, MUCH better for your baby.

    • Melissa says:

      Alana, I am the same and can only low temp pasteurized non homogenized milk. I am using goat milk. Do find once the formula is made it seems watery compared to regular formula?

    • Sunday says:

      It would be better to take a 100 mile trip to get raw milk and then freeze it than to use anything else. Probiotics are important when using this formula. Raw milk already has probiotic strains, but a certain type is needed.

      This formula is for supplementing, so if your baby is getting hard poops, you’re giving to much of this without balancing with fiber. For newborn to 1 month, they are sensative to raw milk proteins because their flora hasn’t set in just yet… usually due to the hep B and other injections hospitals push to do. Adding a little more water to it will help, as well as a little more coconut oil and a little less yeast.

  34. Pam says:

    I gave approximately six ounces of the raw cow’s milk formula to our 6-wk.-old daughter, and within a couple hours she was throwing up multiple times during and/or right after feedings. It was obvious that she was completely emptying her stomach, even after I stopped giving the formula and only gave her breast milk. This continued for 7-8 hrs., and I almost took her to the hospital in the middle of the night for fear that she was becoming dehydrated. I haven’t tried the formula since.

    I gave this same formula to another daughter when she was an infant and had no problems at all. I’m wondering if anyone has an ideas about what the trouble might have been with our new baby. I’d love to be able to give her the raw milk formula again, as I really hate giving her the commercial stuff (whose primary ingredient is corn syrup, an example of just one horrible characteristic).

    Thanks for your help!

    Pam

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      I am sure this was very upsetting. Try taking out some of the more problematic ingredients, such as the yeast and the gelatin. Also the cod liver oil (try giving that separately, using the syringe).
      We had a case of a baby who threw up everything milk-based–raw milk formula, regular formula, she was basically dying. They gave her the liver-based formula and she took that beautifully, and grew up to be a very healthy little girl. So maybe that is worth a try.

      • Pam says:

        Thanks so much! I resorted to using a horrible commercial formula (primary ingredient is corn syrup–ugh!), and she actually is doing okay w/ that. I can’t wait to stop using that, so I will try your suggestions.

        I really appreciate all of the resources and help that you offer!

        Pam

  35. Dee says:

    I read that gelatine has glutamic acid in it which is neurotoxic. I notice that gelatine is a main ingredient in the baby formula. Would someone please let me know if this information was taken into account when including it in the infant formula? Dee Dr Russell Blaylock

  36. Alexis Shinpo says:

    Thank you for the response I will be sure to buy that book! I had one more question, after putting the formula in the fridge it becomes thick and has chunks in it almost like curdiling… when I warm it up it goes back to being thin with no chunks… is that normal?

  37. Alana says:

    Help?!?! I just switched my 3 week old to homemade formula. She’s vomited a few times and it always is a “curdled” consistency. I try to make sure she consumes at a slow pace and we burp frequently. Is there an ingredient I should avoid with her?

    • Alana says:

      Never mind. I just panicked. She’s been doing well the past 36 hours. Thanks for all of the guidance and support you provide!!

    • Sunday says:

      Sometimes good stuff makes bad stuff come up first before it settles in. So your baby developed and overage of liver bile because her body was used to doing so with whatever else was given. But also vaccine toxins play a role in these things. Glad it cleared up quickly!

  38. Denise says:

    What would be another option if you cannot find raw cows milk, but still wanted to use cow milk?

    • Sunday says:

      No other real options. Go out 100 miles and you should be able to find raw milk. Bison milk works too (don’t know where you’re at). Otherwise, use the liver-based formula.

  39. Susan Stephens says:

    How much raw goat milk is added to the liver based goat milk formula? Besides the whey, it doesn’t say to add any goat’s milk.

    Thank you

    • Tim Boyd says:

      There is a liver based formula and a goat milk formula (2 different things). The liver based formula uses no milk. The goat based formula uses 2 cups, same as cow formula.

  40. Natalie Brown says:

    We have been using goats milk formula recipe since our son was four months and it’s been a month! He has been thriving on it but we noticed is eatinf a lot more, and urinating a ton! Is this normal? We were worried that the goats milk was putting strain on the kidneys but he is thriving in every way!!!!!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      He is taking in a lot, so of course there should be lots of urine. Eating more means he is going through a growth spurt. But if you are concerned, perhaps you could get tests for kidney function from a holistic practitioner.

  41. krista says:

    Can you use the high vitamin cod liver oil\butter oil blend in place of plain cod liver oil in the liver formula recipe?

  42. Kate Nordmann says:

    Hi. I have a two week old that I am supplementing with the formula. I initially made the goat milk since I had used it with my first daughter who did great on it. I tried the raw cow milk and she has been reacting very badly crying inconsolably, refusing the bottle and spitting up. I am going back to the goat milk and she seems to be doing better but is still a little refluxy and gassy. I am thinking it might be the yeast that is also bothering her and want to experiment with removing it. What could I add in order to make sure she gets the folate and b12? Could I add liquid methyl folate or sublingual b12 that I crush up? I know it is preferable not to add a supplement but it is preferable to her spitting up and being in pain and discomfort.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally: Yes, you can certainly take out the yeast. But including the liver is a must. At the very least, add desiccated liver to the formula

  43. Ben Van Slyke says:

    Hello, I have a daughter with a congenital heart defect who requires a higher calorie diet to keep up with her heart so that she can continue to grow. Up until now we have fortified breast milk with an powdered organic formula. She has a hard time with this fortification. Is there a way that I can use the homemade formula to continue fortifying breast milk and if not can I make the homemade formula higher calorie? She has been on a 27 calorie per ounce diet compared to breast milk at 21 calories per ounce. We are now trying a 24 calorie diet to see if she stomachs it better but does not seem to. We will have to continue this diet at the very least until her surgery in a month but possibly longer as we wait for her to heal from the surgery.

  44. Lindsay says:

    I was surprised at how many refined oils are used in this recipe. I am heavily reactive to industrial chemicals used to process oils like bleaches and hexane, and the reason I wanted to use this formula recipe is to avoid oils with these chemicals, which cause severe symptoms for me (and I presume, likely our baby).

    The ones I noted are:
    – expeller-expressed sunflower oil (processing uses bleaching),
    – extra virgin organic olive oil (the one she uses in the video is from the mediterranean, where regulations do not require “extra virgin” labels to reflect the process of making the oil – in fact, hexane is used in making that brand of oil), and
    – cod liver oil (the only hexane- and bleaching-free fish oil I have found is “Pure Alaska Omega” wild salmon oil)

    The butter oil and extra virgin coconut oil are presumably okay. The rule of thumb is that if something isn’t labelled “extra virgin” and 100% pure, then it has hexane. If olive oil is labeled as being manufactured or grown outside the U.S., then it almost certainly has hexane (because the hexane process is cheaper and allowed). The only safe olive oil is extra virgin California olive oil that was grown and made locally.

  45. Melisa says:

    Can a baby with a milk allergy use the lover based formula with whey and lactose in it?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally: You will just have to try and see. But have you tried the raw milk formula first? I would certainly try that before going to the liver formula.

  46. Jennifer says:

    Hi. I made the raw cow milk formula.and I don’t know what went wrong. But when I took it out of fridge . It was a blob of jello . I get raw milk from a farm and the whey as well. What could have caused this.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Probably there is nothing wrong. Some of the ingredients thicken when they get cold. When warmed back up they should thin out again.

    • Bridget says:

      that has happened to me if i use too much gelatin, or if you don’t let the water cool down before you mix with the milk. i found that that step with the water and gelatin is a make or break. go slow with that and not to hot, keep it on low and mix in slow.

  47. Erika Chavez says:

    I am considering the liver formula for a variety of reasons….Few questions…

    My wellness practitioner had me taking the Radiant Life Desiccated capsules during my pregnancy, I still am actually still taking them. I also take 5000 of vitamin D.
    – Do I have to reduce my intake of the Desiccated Liver since I will be using the Liver formula?

    I am not going to eliminate nursing and I will continue to pump. Do I have to transition my son to 100% liver formula, or is it ok to supplement.
    – Would you suggest mixing breast milk with the liver formula or switch off giving him bottles during the day (while I am at work).

    • Tim Boyd says:

      You can definitely combine the formula with nursing and it is fine to mix breast milk with the formula. We do NOT recommend taking vitamin D alone, it can cause a lot of problems. Best to take cod liver oil, with both A and D. Fine to take the liver capsules while also giving the formula.

  48. Megan says:

    Hi I made the milk based formula. How long does this last in the freezer? Also how long in the refrigerator? And what are the guidelines for if you heat up a bottle and the baby doesn’t drink the whole thing, how long can it sit out till you shouldn’t use it anymore? I am also wondering about if this can be mixed with breast milk. I don’t see why not but curious as well. Thanks!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      It will keep in the fridge about 3 days. yes, you can mix with breast milk. I would not put it back in the fridge after you have heated it, so try heating up smaller amounts.

  49. maria says:

    Hi
    Can I use Nordic Naturals, Arctic Cod Liver Oil?
    http://m.iherb.com/Nordic-Naturals-Arctic-Cod-Liver-Oil-8-fl-oz-237-ml/4202

    Description
    Purity, Freshness – 3rd Party Tested
    No Added Flavor!
    Omega-3 Supplement Made from 100% Arctic Cod Livers
    Superior Triglyceride Form
    Meets Our Daily Needs for DHA and EPA
    Gold Standard
    Dietary Supplement
    Pharmaceutical Grade
    Molecularly Distilled
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 Teaspoon (5 ml)
    Servings Per Bottle: 48
      Amount Per Serving % DV¹ % DV²*
    Calories 45    
    Calories from fat 45    
    Total Fat 5.0 g † 8%
    Saturated Fat 1.0 g † 5%
    Trans Fat 0 g † †
    Cholesterol 20 mg † 7%
    Vitamin A 425-1500 I.U. 17-60% 9-30%
    Vitamin D 0-20 I.U. 0-5% 0-5%
    Total Omega-3s 1050 mg † †
    EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 350 mg † †
    DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) 485 mg † †
    Other Omega-3s 215 mg † †
    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
    † Daily Value not established.
    ¹ Daily Value (DV) for children under 4 years of age.
    ² Daily Value (DV) for adults and children over 4 years of age.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      We don’t recommend that one – the ratio of vitamin A to D is wrong and the levels are too low. What we do recommend is on this page – http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/cod-liver-oil-basics-and-recommendations/#brands

      • maria says:

        Carlson Cod Liver Oil is one recommended….

        Product Details
        Carlson Norwegian Cod Liver Oil Liquid Unflavored Description
        Omega-3s EPA & DHA
        Freshness & Potency – Purity Guaranteed
        Gluten-Free
        Preservative-Free
        Carlson The Finest Norwegian Cod Liver Oil
         
        Promotes Heart, Brain, Vision and Joint Health.

        Supplement Facts
        Serving Size: 1 Teaspoon (5 mL)
        Servings per Container: 50
        Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
        Calories 45
           Calories from Fat 45
        Total Fat 5 g 8%
           Saturated Fat 1 g 5%
        Cholesterol 20 mg 7%
        Vitamin A (from cod liver oil) 850 IU 17%
        Vitamin D3 (from cod liver oil) 400 IU 100%
        Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol & mixed tocopherols) 10 IU 33%
        100% Norwegian Cod Liver Oil 4.6 g *
        Omega-3 Fatty Acids 1100 mg *
           DHA (Docosahexaenioc Acid) 500 mg *
           EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 400 mg *
        *Daily value not established.
        Other Ingredients: Contains fish (cod).

  50. maria says:

    http://www.mtcapra.com/images/products/panel/1371-panel.jpgCAN I USE THE MT.CAPRA GOAT MILK LACTOSE?

    Capra Lactose™

    Goat Milk Lactose

    Natural goat milk sugar
    20% the sweetness of table sugar
    Soothing to the digestive tract
    Free of pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, and antibiotics
    Good things to know about Capra Lactose™

    Capra Lactose™  is extracted from pure goat milk whey and is perfect for toddlers, kids, and adults. A perfect addition to foods and drinks, lactose has been used to support growth of healthy microflora such as Lactobacillus acidophilus. It is a perfect addition to coffee, smoothies, toddler drinks, baked goods, and yogurt.

  51. maria says:

    http://www.mtcapra.com/product/capra-lactose/
    Can i used the
    Mt.Capra Goat Lactose…?

  52. Alaister says:

    Can I use this:

    Green Pasture – Blue Ice Royal Butter Oil & Fermented Cod Liver Oil Blend – GEL- Naturel – 240 ml

    The Blue IceTM Fermented Cod Liver Oil brings us back in time, when cod liver oil was truly a sacred food. The Blue IceTM Fermented Cod Liver Oil is lacto-fermented and extracted without heat. The fish are wild caught in the Arctic region. The combination of these attributes provides our community with a pure, clean and nutrient rich sacred food. Blue IceTM Royal offers our community a nutrient dense sacred food blend of 1/3 X-Factor GoldTM High Vitamin Butter Oil and 2/3 Blue IceTM Fermented Cod Liver Oil. X-Factor Gold High Vitamin Butter Oil is made from dairy oil extracted without heat from cows that eat 100% rapidly growing grass. The speed of the grass growth, timing of the grazing of this grass, species of grass, climate and extraction method are all important to make real X-Factor Gold High Vitamin Butter Oil. The Blue Ice Fermented Cod Liver Oil is lacto-fermented and extracted without heat. Vitamins A & D in Fermented Cod Liver Oil need Vitamin K in X-Factor Butter Oil are necessary for a more complete absorption and to obtain the full benefits. Green Pasture’s Blue Ice Fermented Salty Cod Liver Oil is naturally produced, unheated, fermented high-vitamin cod liver oil that is made using a filtering process that retains the natural vitamins and enzymes. Most brands of cod liver oil in health food stores are highly refined, going through a process that removes all of the natural vitamin A and D. After this filtration process, synthetic vitamin A and D are added back to the product. What remains are very low levels of vitamin A and virtually no vitamin D. Because of the high heat process many other nutrients and enzymes are drastically lowered or eliminated. – Full spectrum of vitamins A, D, E and K – Contains EPA / DHA – Raw and fermented cod liver oil – Superior to conventional liver – Unique manufacturing process

  53. Diana says:

    Hi, My baby loves the formula. I only have one question, What happens if I dont add the lactose? Is it really necessary?
    Thanks for your time.

  54. Megan says:

    Thank you for answering my previous questions. I have been making this formula with great success! My baby loves it! But you didn’t answer how long will it will last in the freezer?

  55. Katrina says:

    My 5 month old needs a slightly thicker viscosity than regular formulas, due to swallowing issues and reflux – his pediatrician currently has me adding 5ml of rice cereal per ounce. I’m wondering if increasing the amount of gelatin would be an ok way to increase the viscosity of the homemade formula? If so, how much would be a safe amount? Thank you!

  56. Jessica says:

    The only source I have to grass fed quality cow’s milk close to me is Low Temperature pasteurized. “The raw milk is heated in a stainless steel vat slowly to a temperature of 145 degrees Fahrenheit and held there for 30 minutes. It is then cooled slowly to 41degrees before bottling. We choose to use the Low Temperature method because it insures that all harmful bacteria is eliminated while still retaining all of the milk’s natural health benefits.” Is this milk OK to use as a substitute? I have access to raw goats milk.

  57. Melisa says:

    Ordering in Canada from Ovio ORganico was not a good experience. My order was one month late and missing an item. There were numerous emails sent and telephone messages left but no reply from the company. I would not recommend them to anyone nor should Weston Price.

    • Kristin says:

      I also had a bad experience with Ovio Organico in Canada. Our order took 3 weeks to receive with little to no communication from the company. We also received a few products that were not the same as what was recommended on the weston price website. Wouldn’t recommend ordering from this company.

      • Tania says:

        Same experience here!! Over a month and no answers with emails and phone. I would NOT recommend them! Since then, I get lactose via well.ca and source everything else separately.

  58. Megan says:

    I am making the liver based formula for my daughter. In reading the above recipe are you saying to omit the bifidobacterium infantis and the acerola powder?

  59. Megan says:

    Hi Sally/Tim!
    Thanks for all that you and the foundation do for quality nutrition–it has changed my life for the better over the last several years, even giving me the passion to become an NTP and a chapter leader to spread the good word :)!
    I have a question regarding some digestive issues on the raw cow’s milk formula. My daughter(3 mos.) has not tolerated it that well (hard, painful stools), gas, etc. I don’t have access to certified raw goats milk, and I would love for the cow’s milk formula to work bc I feel that it is the best nutritionally, and I have toyed with the constipation remedies (molasses, doubling whey, probiotic, etc.) and have had some success, but is usually followed up with several days without a BM.
    Are these hard stools a sign of dairy intolerance, or could it be something as simple as leaving out the nutritional yeast?
    Also, she has a lot less wet diapers on the formula than when she is on donated breast milk–hoping that may be a clue to help me get to the root cause of all of this.
    Would the digestive tea/suppository/broth be covering up a larger issue if it helped, and not get to the root of the problem? Do most parents just have to do it a few times until the child gets used to the formula, or is it most likely a long-term thing? I just don’t want her digestion to be compromised long-term by giving her the formula and following up with things to help her go if it just isn’t working for her.
    Thank you in advance! I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it!

  60. Alta says:

    Please help!! Our baby is due in 3 weeks and I need to make a decision ASAP as I still need to order the ingredients for the homemade baby formula. I just have one question for you please! Is your homemade formula suitable for NEWBORN BABIES?? There is a strong possibility that I will not be able to breastfeed and would like to give my baby the next best thing to breast milk, so please help so I can know whether or not to order the ingredients and get started on the kefir to culture the pasteurised milk and make homemade whey so I can take it to the hospital with me. Thanks so much!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      I would not use the formula made with cultured pasteurized milk for a newborn–only from raw milk. Which state are you in–you should get raw milk for the formula if at all possible. Sally

  61. Jeanmarie Todd says:

    I just looked at the liver-based formula recipe after reading this article on Jezebel about how Chef Pete Evans’s baby book has been withheld from publication because of the publisher’s concern that his liver-and-broth recipe contains way too much Vitamin A for babies and would kill them. (http://jezebel.com/autism-busting-paleo-book-for-babies-pulled-because-it-1692592094) They don’t provide the recipe so I don’t know whether this is hype or just part of the anti-Paleo press backlash (especially in Australia, especially against Pete Evans). I know that Sally Fallon Morell is not a fan of Paleo, but it seems obvious that Evans probably based his recipe on WAPF’s liver formula. Anyway, I was looking at the numbers for your formulas, and indeed the Vitamin A content is way high for the liver formula, and it doesn’t follow the usual 5-to-1 ratio of Vitamin A to Vitamin D that I remember reading in another WAPF article. 20,000 iu of A paired with 946 iu of D seems way out of balance.

    Can someone talk about what is an appropriate level of A and D for infants? Thanks.
    (I am also posting this question to Chris Masterjohn separately.)

  62. Korina says:

    We were making the formula and didn’t have any whey made up nor did we have heavy cream. We just made a days batch without those two items. My wombfruit is 5 months old. Is this ok, suggested?
    Can I sub out the whey? I have goats milk kefir? I’m so new to this and would like to get it right:)!
    On the topic of ehh yolk. Could I blend up the cooked egg yolk in the formula. My son has no concept of eating solids yet? Thanks a bazillion!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally – Yes, at that age it is OK. Try introducing solid foods such as egg yolk, pureed liver, etc. He will get the hang of it.

  63. Rochelle says:

    I’ve been using the cows milk formula for about a month with my 4momth old twins. They’ve been doing well, but they are getting hungrier with it, and can’t go as long at night, or between feedings during the day. They were previously on a breast milk/commercial formula blend and now on breast milk/homemade formula.I thought it was just a growth spurt at first, but it’s been consistent. I haven been following the directions exactly, what should I do?

  64. kendra says:

    so I have 1 month old baby boy who is very gassy and is currently on the similac sensitive for gas but I hate the ingredients that are in it. I like the idea of a homemade formula but am a little consirned as I read Raw milk can carry harmful germs that can make you very sick or kill you. im kind of scared now. is there an alternative.?

  65. Carla says:

    Hello,

    I am confused about the measurements of the home-made liver based formula. it supposed to create 1 litre of milk, yet 3 cups of broth is only 240ml? or am i getting the measurements wrong?

    Thank you

    Carla

  66. Michelle says:

    2 month old baby that was EBF until a bout with thrush, now using the RMF until thrush is cleared up. Baby is very gassy now. I have removed yeast, whey and probiotics. What can I change to reduce gas?

  67. Sarah says:

    I avoid fish oils and prefer instead to use parent oils(PEOs) due to becoming aware of the research done by Brian Peskin.

    Do you agree with his conclusions? Is there a way to make this without the cod liver oil?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      We don’t agree with Brian Peskin, and anyway, cod liver oil is NOT fish oil, it is fish liver oil. Baby needs it for vitamins A and D–the most important discovery of Dr. Price, that levels of vitamins A and D were very high in traditional diets.

  68. Megan says:

    I previously left a comment about how long the cows milk based formula is good for in the freezer. I never received an answer and would really like to know this please.

  69. Megan says:

    Oh wow, that long. Awesome, Thanks!!

  70. Melissa says:

    I am looking at making the goats milk formula due to my son having an allergy. Can I use beef liver instead of chicken liver? And do I still use the lactose and cream?

  71. Tam says:

    My baby has a milk protein allergy and I was interested in trying the liver formula. My concern is that it calls for whey (which is made from milk and is protien). Can I leave it out? If so, should I add something else?

  72. Kathleen says:

    Do you have more information on where the nutrients are coming from in your cow’s milk formula analysis? I just did my own, and I’m finding the profile to be very low in all Bvitamins, folate, Vitamin E, selenium, zinc and others. This makes me concerned to feed this to my baby. How can I add more of these nutrients? Should I be using tablespoons of nutritional yeast vs teaspoons?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      The analysis done by Mary Enig showed all nutrients adequate. You could add a little liquid vitamin B if you want. The minerals should be fine.

  73. Julie says:

    Does the WAP formula freeze well? I am a lactation consultant, and I sometimes have clients who are using WAP, but they only need a few ounces per day, not an entire recipe. Can they make a batch, then dole it out into separate containers for refrigeration or freezing? How long does it keep in the fridge? Are there any alterations to the recipe that must be made if you are not going to use it that day? Thank you.

  74. Jason says:

    We’ve been feeding our baby son the homemade formula for the past 7-8 months. He has thrived on the formula and we are SO grateful! He turned 1 year old last week, and wondering if we should ween him off the formula? And if so, how is the best way to go about that?
    Because he has done so well on it, we are reluctant to change. Would be grateful for any advise in this regard.
    Thank you.

  75. julia says:

    Hi, I have 3 quick questions. 1)If I am using the Butter/Cod liver oil blend by Green Pasture, is it still necessary to use extra butter oil? And what is the amount I would use since it is a combo? 2) If my daughter has had a really hard time with breastmilk even though I tried elimintating A LOT of foods (dairy was the first) with NO help to her, would it be safe for me to assume I should start with the raw milk version? Or, since she has such a sensitive tummy would you recommend trying the liver based formula or goat milk formula instead? 3) What is the best way to transition off of Alimentum (elemental formula) onto this formula? Should I do very gradual or just swap 100%? 4) What if I wanted to ad da broader spectrum of probiotics to the formula? Would that be ok or is it not necessary? THANKS!

  76. Nena says:

    Hello and thank you for your website and the valuable information provided herein. My husband and I are new parents and we are raising a four-week-old boy. When he was three weeks old, we started him on the cow’s milk formula. He took it on nicely, but his skin was not agreeing with the cow’s milk (or so we think) since his face almost filled with tiny little red pimples after only a day on it. We decided to switch to the goat’s milk one, which for a day or two we made without the livers for we didn’t initially have access to organic chicken livers. He seemed to like it a lot and his skin started clearing,too. His stools became a tad harder but he was not constipated so we were thrilled, especially since we found a good reputable source of organic chicken livers quite fast, as well. So, his third batch of goat’s milk formula we made with simmered livers (we could not wait for another 14 days for them to stay in the freezer plus my husband is really against the idea of raw meat in our son’s milk) and that was…a disaster. Suddenly, we had a baby that almost refused to eat. He would fuss and cry and spit up his milk during every feed. Struggling, we managed to have him finish that batch and we made the fourth one the same way. Unfortunately, that one was met with even greater disapproval. It took him double his usual time to finish half a bottle and, while his skin had cleared up by that time, it was obvious that he did not enjoy his meals at all. We still don’t know for sure whether it was the new taste that he did not like or the fact that the livers would never blend with the rest of the formula (no matter how long we would leave our workhorse blender run and blend), but instead would end up in tiny little specs which would remain suspended therein therefore making a) his formula more difficult to swallow and/or b) his stomach having a harder time digesting them. Therefore, I would like to ask if there is any alternative to the livers that would make our little difficult baby go back to the goat’s milk formula which he liked so much without them. I understand completely how important it is to include the B12 and folate in his formula, but on the other hand isn’t it a shame to deprive him of such a high-quality diet just because he dislikes one ingredient? I was thinking that maybe an egg yolk or two could make up an adequate replacement of the livers. What is your opinion on that? Also, if egg yolks could indeed be a good alternative to livers, should we cook them the same way that you instruct for the egg yolks in general or differently? And one final question: If egg yolks are not an option, how much desiccated liver would you use for the same quantity of formula and what brands would you recommend (that can be found in Europe)? I would really be grateful for your help, for right now we are half-heartedly having him on commercial goat’s milk formula and can’t wait to switch him back to the WPF one. Thanks a million.

  77. Jesiel says:

    I did not wean my baby off of the commercial formula to the raw milk formula properly. I say so because she’s been up all night crying so I think her stomach is upset. What can I do to help her heal?

  78. Kyria says:

    How long is the formula good for if you make a fresh batch and leave it in the fridge? How long is it good for in the fridge? How long is it good for in the freezer? If my son is allergic to soy and corn and dairy should I leave out the whey, lactose, cream and gelatin? Also what kind of cream are you speaking of in this film? When I went to the store I had no idea what kind of cream to look for? Whipping cream?

  79. Courtney says:

    Just a few questions that I haven’t been able to find. Where can you find “good quality cream” is there certain brands you suggest? Also, how long in the refrigerator does raw milk last for? I don’t want to buy a gallon if it last a couple of days. And how long in the freezer is the formula good for?

  80. Julie says:

    Hi, regarding the fortified commercial formula recipe, do I read the instructions correctly? That if I would use baby’s only organic and mix up their recipe, and then using one cup of It add to that: 29 oz. Filtered water, 1 lg. Egg yolk cooked for 31/2 min. Plus 1/2 tsp. unflavored cod liver oil? * I assume this is all to be blended? Will the cooked yolk go through the nipple easily?

  81. MaryJo says:

    Does the liver for the liver formula need to be frozen for 2 weeks prior to being cooked? Is the freezing step just for the raw liver? And what is the reason for freezing the liver?
    Thanks for the great information.

  82. Careyann says:

    Hello, I’m making the goats milk formula I don’t have access to raw liver is there a powder I could order instead,?

  83. Courtney says:

    If I make several batches of the raw milk formula and place some in the freezer….how many days will the ones in the fridge be good for?

  84. Careyann says:

    My son is on the raw milk formula and he is not gaining weight. What can I do?

  85. Lauren says:

    Expecting mother here! Due in just 6 weeks with my first child 🙂 I want to start my daughter on the raw milk homemade formula. I have a question–my local farm offers two different types of raw cow’s milk–one with 4.8% milk fat and one with 6.8% milk fat. Which option is BEST for a newborn? The higher fat content?

  86. Katherine says:

    My son has had a severe allergic reaction to both the raw milk and goat formulas. We’re finally on the liver formula and hoping that we are in the clear. We were told that he has an allergy to coconut and have not been adding it into our formula because of this. The liver recipe says that coconut oil is a “crucial” ingredient so what could we use as a substitute?

    • beverly simmons says:

      Please let me know this answer as well!

      • Katherine says:

        My son is having the exact same problem! Can you please let me know how to navigate this? He is very allergic to all dairy- cow and goat, and coconut.
        Is it ok that I am omitting it? And can I substitute another oil or increase the amounts of the others to compensate?

  87. Rachel says:

    I would like to start on this right away. Can I make the raw milk formula with the ingredients I have on hand and then order the others and add when they arrive? For instance; I have raw milk, whey, cream, cod liver oil, sun flower oil, extra virgin oil, coconut oil, and filtered water. Is that sufficient, or should I wait until I have all the ingredients? Also I have on hand Green Pasture butter oil/fermented cod liver oil blend but it is the chocolate cream flavor….. would this be completely inappropriate to use?

  88. Jennifer says:

    ok so for making the whey… I have 2 very curious cats. I can’t keep them off the counters, especially when it comes to the raw cow milk. They LOVE that stuff. So I can’t just leave an open container of milk out on the counter, which is what you need to do to produce the whey. Can I leave the open containers inside of a cabinet? It’s really the only choice I have

  89. Jennifer says:

    as for the cream, can I just take the cream that separates from the raw cow milk? if not, where do I get good quality cream from?

  90. Jenine says:

    I have a question please answer – Im having a hard time figuring out how to heat the bottle quickly when out of the house. Can I make the formula in a concentrate using just the milk then when ready to feed baby add hot water to warm and shake? It seems the milk to water ratio just almost 50/50 so would hypothetically add just slightly less water than there is of milk in the bottle. Is this ok to do?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:

      I would mix the whole formula each morning, following the recipe exactly (the water is less than 50%) And where would you get the warm water–from the tap? Not a good idea.

      I think you can find little bottle warmers that don’t take electricity online.

    • Jennifer says:

      they do make portable bottle warmers

  91. Courtney says:

    I can’t find the heavy cream in my area. The place only delivers every two weeks if theirs enough orders and it’s farther than expected for me to drive too. Is it necessary to have the heavy cream in the formula or is it okay to leave it out?

  92. Tom Elliott says:

    I live in Korea, and the only raw milk available is goat milk, and the goats apparently don’t start producing until mid-Feb. We’re going to use kefir grains w/ grass-fed (pasteurized) milk, but are still waiting. Meantime we’re using the formula based recipe, which we discovered in Dave Asprey’s “Better Baby Book.” His recipe doesn’t mention cooking the egg yolk, so I hadn’t been. I just saw you said to cook it for 2.5 mins. I haven’t been doing that and our baby seems fine with the current concoction. Any reason to change?

  93. Erin calihan says:

    I have been using the filtered water from my refrigerator to make the homemade formula. However I just read not to use not to use water with fluoride or it can damage my babies brain. Should I buy water instead?

  94. Jennifer says:

    Hoping somebody can give me some advice about making your own whey from raw milk… so I’ve read that the air needs to be at 73 degrees for the milk to separate. If so, I have a problem then… it is winter by me right now and my place is very poorly insulated. Even with my electric heaters running, it doesn’t get past 65 degrees inside. I have some raw milk that has been sitting out for nearly 2 weeks now. It separated a little bit and seems to have stopped. There is still a large layer of milk sitting underneath a small layer of whey. Do you have any suggestions on what I can do? Will it just take a lot longer to separate? Is it even still good at this point?

    • Jennifer says:

      ok disregard the comment above. I just realized my milk has separated. For some reason I was expecting it to actually separate with the curdles sitting on top and the whey on the bottom. So now my concern is, it’s been sitting out for 2 weeks. Should I toss it?

  95. Joanna says:

    I’m interested in knowing the benefits of the ingredients in the raw milk formula.

  96. Angela says:

    I saw this question asked but not answered here in the comments. Perhaps it is answered elsewhere. Can you use an organic powder goat milk with this recipe? We current have our youngest on the powdered goats milk and she is doing great. Just want to make sure we include all the nutrition she needs.

  97. L Caldwell says:

    My baby was breastfed but now I’m out of milk. She’s a 10 month old preemie, 7 months corrected age. I desperately want to make the cow’s milk formula but all the raw milk near us, within 3 hours is NOT strictly grass fed. Would you recommend I use the raw milk near me anyway or what else can I do to not have to buy commercial formula? Thanks so much!!

  98. L Caldwell says:

    Right now I am painfully giving her commercial formula 🙁 Please help

  99. Courtney says:

    Hello. We recently started making the cows milk formula for our 3 month old about a month ago. He seems to love it a lot more than all the commercial formulas. We started looking at all the ratios compared to breast milk. We noticed that the cows milk homemade formula is higher in calories per ounce, fat, and protein and almost identical in carbs to breast milk. So we figured out if you take out one cup of milk and add 3 tablespoons lactose, you get really close to the calories per ounce and the ratios of fats, proteins, and carbs found in breast milk. Just curious, is there a reason you wouldn’t recommend that? Or a reason why that isn’t the way the formula was made? Please help. Just looking for some guidance. Thank you in advance.

  100. Amy says:

    can you explain how you wean off of a commercial formula to a homeade cows milk formula?
    Or give me a link where this is explained?

  101. beverly simmons says:

    I read through all 179 postings prior to this one, and though similar questions were asked, they were not answered. I am hoping mine will be! Please advise on what to do if our daughter can not have whey or lactose as found in the liver formula?

  102. Gina says:

    Can you use ghee in place of butter oil?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      You can use ghee for the formula–it does not have as much vitamin K, but it still has high levels of fat-soluble vitamins.

  103. Jeff says:

    Hi, for the liver formula, is there a substitute for Coconut Oil and Whey? My 10 mo old boy is allergic to milk, milk protein and coconut.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      The coconut oil is a VERY important part of this formula–otherwise the baby has no source for certain saturated fatty acids that are criticial. The baby will get diarrhea without it. So I dont’ know what else to recommend.

    • Sunday says:

      If he’s allergic and not just intolerant, substitute coconut with cannabis oil and the whey with cannabis powder. Or you may also try goat or sheep milk powder (sheep is better if around you). While goat or sheep doesn’t contain certain levels of things, it’s better than nothing, and he shouldn’t have an allergic reaction because of that.

  104. Chana Shimshon says:

    I want to make baby formula from the recipe in Nourishing Traditions from raw cow’s milk. I need to make it kosher and it is difficult to find all of the ingredients in a kosher form. Does anyone know if it would be ok to use a probiotic that has Bifidobacterium Infantis powder in it with other strands as well? It is specifically made for babies. Also, can I substitute a kosher fish oil for cod liver oil? Can Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) powder be substituted for acerola powder? Lastly, does using fructose or dextrose make a big difference than using lactose and which of the two is most preferable if not using lactose?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      The most important thing is that you make a healthy formula for your baby, not that it be kosher–I am sure you can get some kind of dispensation. Please use the formula exactly as given. Probably the Bifidobacterium Infantis powder is OK but the fish oil is definitely NOT ok–use the high-vitamin cod liver oil. And yes, it is VERY important to use lactose and NOT fructose or dextrose.

    • Sunday says:

      Shalom Chana… do not fear in using the cod liver oil. There is nothing like it’s composition anywhere else that isn’t high in iron. Right now, baby doesn’t need high doses of iron. Acerola is as natural of a vit c you will come across that won’t change the flavor of the formula or cause the milk to curdle. Also you can try aloe gelatin if you can’t find kosher animal gelatin.

  105. Carrie says:

    Dear Weston a Price,

    Since five days, I give my eight months old son the liverbased formula and raw cheese. Now, he has suddenly defeloped and extremely dry scaly skin, on his cheeks and on the back of his knee. It looks like eczema. I believe it has to do with the formula and/or cheese, as I didnt introduce new foods and he was breastfed before.

    Is he dairy intolerant or could it be caused by a vitamin A overdose?

    How can I make sure it isn’t a vitamin K overdose? Should I have his levels checked or is there any other way?

    If he’s dairy intolerant, should I leave the lactose and whey out of the formula?
    How can I make sure he gets enough viramin K when he can’t eat dairy?
    Could I try to give him ghee?
    Should I add eggshells when making bone broth to make sure he gets enough calcium?

    Hope you can help!

  106. Linnea says:

    Hi. I have been making the formula for over a month. I have been making several batches & freezing in glass jars. I take out each jar daily from the freezer. Is this ok? Is she getting the nutrients needed?

  107. Audrey . says:

    Can I make the formula with breast milk instead of cows milk? I have enough the pediatrcian wants me to fortify it.

  108. Rayna says:

    The meat-based formula has been a lifesaver for us. My baby has neurological issues and I have been exclusively pumping the last several months, but I am getting less and less milk with the pump. I had to supplement with commercial formula as I live on a small Caribbean island with no source of raw or good quality milk unless I get my own animal. My son was getting increasingly constipated and then started screaming day and night with stomach pains due to gas. I found this meat-based formula which works out wonderfully because we have excellent quality all grass-fed meat. After the first bottle, I suddenly had a smiling contented baby. He is having difficulty with solids, so I’m sure we’ll be using this for some time. Thank you so much!
    I do have one question, I am using a normal kitchen blender and have had problems getting the liver well liquified. I need to strain the formula in order for it to not clog up the nipple but then have lots of liver that doesn’t end up in the formula. I cannot use a larger hole as my son chokes with the faster flow. Any tips to get it blended better or do the nutrients end up in the formula from the cooking and blending?

  109. Jennifer S says:

    can anybody tell me what is in the Nourishing Traditions digestive tea? on another website someone said it was fresh anise leaves and fresh mint leaves. well the problem with that is anise leaves don’t seem to exist. I can only find anise seeds and star pods. please reply asap, my baby is on the raw cow milk formula and seems to be having constipation.

  110. Paige Lieberman says:

    Can you use dessicated liver in the bone broth formula?

  111. Cecilia says:

    With the Liver based formula, is it normal to have liver particles on the bottom?

  112. Katie Q says:

    Hello,
    With my firstborn, I used the goat milk formula and left out the cod liver oil because both my son and I had allergic reactions to it. I am due soon with my next son, and would like to use the liver based formula, but would like to leave out the cod liver oil for fear that he has allergies to it as well. Would this be okay, or can I substitute the FCLO with something else? Thank you so much for your help!

    • Sunday says:

      Try using 1/4 the amount of liver oil the recipe calls for. Perhaps try dessicated liver capsules (open the capsule and dump in, of course… not sure if it can be found as a liquid only, but something to look into).

      Usually cod liver oil is difficult to take as adults, but vaccines and toxins cause the allergic responses. Consider including a few grams or so of beta glucan from NSC for your baby. This will be a tremendous boost to immune health overall. Just open a capsule over a tray, and place a finger tip hump of it into mouth just as you are inserting the bottle for feeding. No allergic reactions have ever presented themselves with beta glucan… in fact, it’s been quite the opposite.

  113. Kimberly says:

    Does anyone know if the cows milk based formula recipe would pass FDA regulations for commercially produced infant formula? Or if the recipe provided has been tested for nutrient levels and if so what they are?

    • Sunday says:

      No… it will most definitely not. The medical industry views raw milk as a disease, period, but only because they’ve swallowed the indoctrination. Those at the top, it’s about money for them. They drink raw themselves and don’t drink store crap hardly. They know.

      With this formula, you have to try it and basically patent it to your child. It’s at a measurement where it would fit most, but some will need to change it.

      And if you do this, and the child is healthy and good, do not mention it to any pediatrician that is not holistic in approach. They will drag you through some legal drama and poke and prod your child… even though he’s healthy as can be.

  114. Hannah says:

    Hello,

    Could someone please assist me. I live in Australia and unfortunately raw milk is illegal throughout the country. There is also no low-temp pasteurised cows milk and raw goat milk is also unavailable. i would prefer to avoid the liver formula. Is it okay to use organic pasteurised, and unhomogenised cows milk with kefir?

    Thank you.

  115. Nancy says:

    I am having trouble finding organic sucrose. Our baby is allergic to dairy and needs the non dairy formula. He also had persistent case of seborrhea dermatitis and in afraid the sugar dill make it worse since this is a yeasty condition. Also should We be concerned about the cod liver oil ( for possible allergies )? He has not done well with soy or hydrolyzed dairy formula – and my daughter is running out of breast milk so wecwNtvgo make this asap. Amy help is appreciated!

  116. Marah says:

    What are the nutritional benefits of each ingredient for the raw cow milk formula? Is raw cow milk incomplete by itself?

  117. naomi says:

    I am also wondering (like Amanda) about how to fortify breast milk for a premi baby. There is currently only one formula called neosure made by similac on the market for fortification. We have plenty of breastmilk, so we dont need to use cows milk. Any suggestions?

  118. Josh Petersen says:

    We have been on the raw milk formula for about two-three weeks and we’ve noticed a huge improvement in our baby’s growth, and he is having more regular bowel movements. Used to be 1 or two every few days, now it’s 1-3 per day. We go back in this week for his 6 month check up, we’re excited to see where he’s at. The ONLY complaint we have thus far is that he does still spit up a bit, some days more than others, but we’ve found that it stinks SO bad like human throw up, and alot of our family/friends are sometimes hesitant in holding him because in turn they may have to change their clothes. Is there any suggestions for this? we’re feeding him roughly 7 ounces per bottle about 6 times a day. We on accident got the non fermented cod liver oil and are using a full tsp of it instead of the half with fermented. Would that make a difference in smell/spit up? I wouldn’t say he spits up near as much as he did on breast milk, but when he does it’s yellowish curdle nasty.. Just wondering if there is any way to avoid/help this? Thanks so much!

  119. Katie says:

    I started my 7 week old on the liver formula 2 weeks ago. He seems to really like it and is doing well. My only concern is that he’s having really runny watery poops which are causing bad diaper rash. Does anyone know if this will eventually give way to a more solid poop? He has a lot of watery poops throughout the day, sometimes just small watery poops/leaks. But with 2 weeks of watery poop, his bottom is getting really irritated and raw. I’m worried that the diaper rash will worsen if the watery poop continues. Has anyone dealt with this problem on the liver formula? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

  120. Gigi says:

    Hello. So I’ve been making the Whole milk formula for my baby for a little over 4 months now. My son is 8 months, going on 9 next Sunday. Im concerned because baby is having brownish sandy looking spots in his urine. Im concerned and taking him to the doctor to be seen tomorrow. Could anything in the formula be causing this?? He also randomly gets a little red blotchiness around his face when he drinks his milk. Please help. I’d greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

  121. Laura says:

    For the goats milk formula, do i cook the liver in the gelatin water ?

  122. jen says:

    so Nourishing Traditions says at 4 months egg yolk should be baby’s first solid food. does anybody know how much I feed him that? like is it just 1 egg per day or 3 times a day or something like that?

  123. Sarah says:

    I made the milk based formula for my daughter due to numerous bf issues. She did great on it! Just wanted to pass along a tip that helped save my sanity of making formula everyday. Blenders are difficult to clean and if they aren’t put together properly they leak (yes I cried over spilled expensive milk), accidents happen. What I found worked great and saved my big blender, using a small handheld blender and either a quart or half gallon mason jar! Then after blending, simply refrigerate in the jar and poor from there into bottles.
    Hand held blenders are a life saver for these recipes!

  124. Augustine Uku says:

    Pls help…. baby reacts to sunflower olive nd olive oil nd is allergic to lactose nd dairy….. she is on the Wap hypoallergenic formula nd doing ok… just wanted to know what I could use to supplement olive oil,sunflower oil nd whey? Especially the sunflower oil as it contains vit E.we do use may please syrup instead of lacose… grade B that is..

  125. Debby says:

    Can I use camels milk for this formula instead of cow milk as baby is allergic dairy but seems to be doing extremely well with camels milk?

    • Mandie says:

      I can’t speak on the nutritional differences between the two, but based on my own personal findings, I have read that in countries where camel’s milk is more common, it is often used as a breast milk replacement when necessary. Personally, I would feel completely comfortable giving raw camel’s milk (and would actually prefer it if it weren’t so expensive). However, I don’t know if the added ingredients to the formula would be different since the two milks do differ nutritionally. If you have an older baby (8+ months), I wouldn’t worry too much because in the FAQs on this site, it says older babies can begin drinking plain raw cow’s milk if developmentally ready.

  126. Twinny says:

    HI there, I am looking to replace 1 feeding for my 1 year old twins with raw milk (to ease the stress on my body a bit, after nursing them exclusively for 6 months and additionally on demand until now).

    I finally got a hold of raw organic goat’s milk. I do have several questions:
    – does it matter for the nutritional profile /digestibility that the milk is frozen?
    – is it still necessary for 1 year old babies to make the formula recipe, or does it suffice to just give them the milk? COnsidering that they are on a nutrient dense diet.

    I can also get fresh organic milk from “A2” cows.
    – is the goat’s milk or the cow’s milk preferrable for my babies?

    Thank you in advance for answering my questions!

  127. Twinny says:

    HI there, I am looking to replace 1 feeding for my 1 year old twins with raw milk (to ease the stress on my body a bit, after nursing them exclusively for 6 months and additionally on demand until now).

    I finally got a hold of raw organic goat’s milk. I do have several questions:
    – does it matter for the nutritional profile /digestibility that the milk is frozen?
    – is it still necessary for 1 year old babies to make the formula recipe, or does it suffice to just give them the milk? Considering that they are on a nutrient dense diet.
    – if a formula recipe is still necessary for them, which of the ingredients are vital and which are optional? Do the amounts change for a 1 year old?

    I can also get fresh organic milk from “A2” cows.
    – is the goat’s milk or the cow’s milk preferrable for my babies?

    Thank you in advance for answering my questions!

  128. CP says:

    This formula is high in protein and many nutrients. The protein level is similar to formula, and the problems with that are well known. The high nutrient load seems like it might put a large strain on an infants’ kidneys. More is not always better!

    I can get a formula more similar to breastmilk by using 3 Tbsp heavy cream, 1 1/4 cup sour whey, 1 Tbsp raw sugar (jaggery), 1 tsp fish oil (not cod liver), and 3 Tbsp orange juice, with water added to make 2 cups total. More like traditional recipes, low protein, and high in some nutrients but not as much as this recipe. Nutrition data here: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/recipe/3835728/2

  129. Frances says:

    Hello, I have been making the homemade raw milk formula for my granddaughter for the last three 1/2 weeks, and she seems to be doing great on it, the only problem is that now she seems to be spitting up some clear liquid after eating, sometimes a lot, sometimes a little, I read somewhere that possibly I could leave out the Yeast in the formula, can someone tell me if this has happen to their child and/or what you did to help with this? Also, I believe the formula helps her as she is now three months and her first two months on regular formula from the store, she was always colicky had a very hard time pooping. She still pushing really hard to try and poop, but it seems to be easing somewhat.. Thanks for any help or replies

  130. Jessica says:

    I have been making the formula for a week now, and we love it! Such an improvement in my babies digestion.
    The only problem is that the formula comes out of the fridge almost curdled looking and thick. When we heat up the bottle it goes back to liquid and is fine. Is the gelatin doing this? Can I add less? I have tried everything, even mixing it into lukewarm water instead of “medium” heat. Is the water too hot when I mix it into the milk?
    Thanks!

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