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Lots of these are really nice, but remember to put your head in the mind of the skeptical (i.e., the ones unsure who you’re trying to convince)
For example, saying that there were no measles’ deaths in 2014, but 108 died from the vaccine is not persuasive. People wrongly assume that before the vaccine 1000s were dying in epidemics, so they’ll think, “Great, the vaccine worked, no deaths… 108 is a lot but we saved 1000s”
What they don’t realize is that only about 400 were dying each year in the 1960s, before the vaccine, and that 108 reported deaths is just the tip of the iceberg – CDC/FDA estimate only 1-10% adverse reactions are reported, meaning really 1000+die each year from the vaccine, more than from measles, that’s aside from all the other crazy adverse reactions… see this site for articles.
Except that isn’t true. Globally, millions died each year annually from measles and there were around 135 million cases every single year before the vaccine for it came out. Here’s a proven statistic. If you let 10 million children get infected with measles, around 2.5 million will suffer somewhat serious effects and around 20k will die. If you instead vaccinate those 10 million children with MMR, around a million will have a fever, around 800k will get a mild rash, a few boys will get inflammation of the genitalia and a little more than 100 will suffer somewhat serious effects, which’ll vary from person to person. In countries with good healthcare, most if not all of them should be fine.
I agree with you. Most people who don’t study nutrition or Weston A Price aren’t aware of how much our government lies about EVERYTHING! It’s so important to do your own research before ever going to the doctor.
I came to your site via links related to infant formula. I am a grandmother doing some research for my daughter. I must say I am very upset to see your anti vaccination memes. I have four personal experiences with diseases that now have vaccines, and I can tell you that not participating in vaccinations is a threat to so many in our community. My first experience was polio. When I was approximately three years old, I contracted the virus. I was extremely fortunate that I did not spend my life in an iron lung and that physical therapy was my back to health, but I could have been spared this unpleasantness if the vaccine were available. Second, my neighbor, a girl one year my junior, contracted measles when she was four. Her fever raged for days, and, even though she was hospitalized, she ended up with brain damage from which she never recovered. Third, was an experience I had teaching in a rural school with 110 children over 6 grade and kindergarten. All the students in the school were vaccinated, except for three children from two families who were both Jehovah Witnesses. All three of these children became very ill with whooping cough ( pertussis), missing upwards of three weeks of school, and being exhausted from their ordeal for many more weeks, while no one else in the school was sick. And finally, a woman I volunteered with in my daughters school lost her middle daughter when the child died, yes died, of chicken pox, when her heart was infected. Rare, but not unheard of.
Yes, it is difficult to trust the pharmaceutical industry, and the government is often mislead by lobbyists, but for a reasonable adult to not take the opportunity to protect their children from the ravages of preventable diseases that can have serious consequences is nothing short of neglectful parenting. These are not diseases of the past. These are diseases that exist now and in our communities, and require the support of all citizens to eradicate.
I’m sorry you had bad experiences with those illnesses, but not everyone has had the same. Let me tell you about the carnage vaccination has left in my life.
I had measles as a child. I was ill for a week then I got better, when my unvaccinated daughter got measles she was still breast feeding and she was ill for maybe 3-4 days with a fever and touch of rash, then she was fine. When I was in fourth grade, the MMR vaccine came out. My school did a mass vaccination event. Even though I had had both measles and mumps already, I was given the vaccine, I felt ill for the rest of the week, but didn’t get my usual post vaccine reaction of extended full blown croup within a week of the jab. A good friend of mine also got the MMR vaccine that day, about 3 spaces ahead of me in line, and he had a very bad reaction. He had a 106F fever for 7 days. When the fever was over, at 11 years old, he could not talk, walk, eat, dress himself, or use the bathroom. His mother had to teach him how to do all those things again. He never returned to school and needs to be in supervised living to this day. The only lucky part of it is that it happened in the mid 1970s before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury act of 1986, so his parents sued and got a decent settlement from the vaccine maker, which helps his family afford his long term care.
When my unvaccinated daughter caught rubella, she was 8, it was a minor illness for her. I was vaccinated 3 times for rubella. I got a full blown adult case of it, because if there was ever any margin of protection from the MMR shot, it had gone away long ago. Rubella was awful, with fever and my eyes were swollen shut for a couple of days, until I used homeopathy to move the disease along. I would rather have got this when I was 8 instead of in my 30s.
I was vaccinated for pertussis twice, and I got pertussis about a year after the last jab, because the vaccine failed to do what the doctor claimed it would do. My unvaccinated daughter got pertussis from a vaccinated adult friend that had a long intractable”cold” for about 2-3 months long. My daughter was still breastfeeding and she never really was that ill. She had the cough and fever, but it was never that bad. I was even able to take her to her great grandfather’s funeral across the country at about 3 weeks into it, because it wasn’t that serious. My pertussis was really bad as a child and I nearly ended up in the hospital from it.
My daughter was exposed to polio, because we went to a holiday meal at my brother’s house, and they vaccinate their children. My daughter is a little over a year younger then her cousin, both kids were teething, and as babies do, they were sharing teething rings. Near the end of the evening my sister in law mentions that her son has just had his live polio vaccine less than a week ago. A few days later my daughter develops a lethargic cold like malady. Fortunately we go to naturopaths and homeopathy stopped the polio right in it’s tracks.
There have been 2 vaccine deaths in my family. My husband’s brother, and my first cousin’s son, both infants died within 6 hours of their first DPT shot. In both cases, the doctors brow beat the parents into accepting a SIDS diagnosis, even though the babies both didn’t “fall asleep” until they were dead. When I mentioned about our choice not to vaccinate my daughter to my husband’s father, he became upset and the whole story about the vaccine death of his second son came pouring out, and how he had always known the vaccines killed his son, but the doctors refused to even consider the possibility.
I have a friend who I don’t see much anymore. He took 3 of his children to get their shots, and all three became ill and are now diagnosed as autistic. The eldest was reading before that shot then had to learn to read all over again a year later. The younger ones suddenly needed to be put in diapers again, because they had lost the control they had before the shot. Remember the manufacturer inserts with the vaccine warn that autism could be a side effect of the MMR vaccine.
He’s glad they weren’t killed by the vaccine.
At the time when my daughter was born, the World Heath Organization warned to not vaccinate if there were other serious vaccine reactions or deaths in the family. This has been revised as more people know someone who has had a bad vaccine reaction. Doctors frequently don’t report bad reactions, because their training tells them it can’t happen. Best estimates are adverse reactions are reported about 1-10% of the time.
I hope you can see why I did not vaccinate my daughter, with all the destruction that vaccines have caused in my life and my family. Corporations have a vested interest in downplaying the dangers of vaccines, for it cuts into their profit margins. Just look at the stats from the NCVI court and how much taxpayer money has been spent to protect these immoral corporations from liability for their products. Then ask yourself is something isn’t wrong here.
“I went to a house that had vaccinated kids and even though those kids were fine a few months later my kids got sick”
That is exactly what you are saying
Hello, “Marilou”:
I think you are mistaken, or perhaps even dishonest.
“Jehovah’s Witnesses” do not oppose vaccination.
In fact, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are very strictly neutral in ALL “political” issues.
Since vaccinations have become so political, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are fairly certain to avoid getting involved in the dispute.
My mother has been a “Jehovah’s Witness” for about 50 years, she has a reputation for honesty, & if I ask her a question about her faith she will often find a publication that explains the matter. I’m very confident that she, & her “Witness” friends, are scrupulously honest because they believe that being dishonest would be the same as denying their faith in their God, “Jehovah”.
Further, having researched this a little, I’m convinced that the drug companies are extremely dishonest, corrupt, & untrustworthy. I’m just as convinced that the government is no better than the drug companies, & may be worse.
Definitely agreed. What a lot of people on weird antivax websites like this tend to say is how much money Big Pharma or the government makes from vaccines. I’m not saying Big Pharma itself is good by any means since it does have loads of problems, but vaccines like you’re saying have been proven to save millions of lives. It is true that they make a lot of money from vaccines, with the estimate being around $24 billion. But, what they don’t pay attention to is the fact that a study from 1994-2013 in the US showed that vaccines created a net savings of $235 billion in direct cost and $1.35 trillion in societal cost. Definitely way more than that $24 billion.
Thank you Marilou! As a public health professional, my stomach just flipped at these memes. I am absolutely terrified of my baby coming into contact with a child that is not vaccinated.
And to those that are creating these memes, please, be very careful of your own bias. You cannot summarize complex research study findings into memes. You are doing a huge disservice to the community in doing so and are contributing to the problem of how people are consuming information. Instead, how about you link to the studies and encourage people to read them. Please- take down the memes. Give people actual information, not sound bites.
We appreciate your concern Amy. However, the purpose and scope of a meme is merely to spark interest and promote consideration of an idea. Perhaps we can do more by including a link to relevant studies or information, but it isn’t really possible to include details in a meme itself. Perhaps a quote with an active link would do? I will pass this on.
I think it best to leave memes for entertainment purposes. You guys can do better. Create brochures, detailed and interactive webpages, etc. Offer people detailed, quality information. In the digital age far too many people are relying on memes and one liners as a source of truth, and for something as complex as vaccinations it just won’t do. Providing memes is just hurting your credibility I think.
JDA says
Lots of these are really nice, but remember to put your head in the mind of the skeptical (i.e., the ones unsure who you’re trying to convince)
For example, saying that there were no measles’ deaths in 2014, but 108 died from the vaccine is not persuasive. People wrongly assume that before the vaccine 1000s were dying in epidemics, so they’ll think, “Great, the vaccine worked, no deaths… 108 is a lot but we saved 1000s”
What they don’t realize is that only about 400 were dying each year in the 1960s, before the vaccine, and that 108 reported deaths is just the tip of the iceberg – CDC/FDA estimate only 1-10% adverse reactions are reported, meaning really 1000+die each year from the vaccine, more than from measles, that’s aside from all the other crazy adverse reactions… see this site for articles.
18 says
Except that isn’t true. Globally, millions died each year annually from measles and there were around 135 million cases every single year before the vaccine for it came out. Here’s a proven statistic. If you let 10 million children get infected with measles, around 2.5 million will suffer somewhat serious effects and around 20k will die. If you instead vaccinate those 10 million children with MMR, around a million will have a fever, around 800k will get a mild rash, a few boys will get inflammation of the genitalia and a little more than 100 will suffer somewhat serious effects, which’ll vary from person to person. In countries with good healthcare, most if not all of them should be fine.
Suzanne says
I agree with you. Most people who don’t study nutrition or Weston A Price aren’t aware of how much our government lies about EVERYTHING! It’s so important to do your own research before ever going to the doctor.
Marilou says
I came to your site via links related to infant formula. I am a grandmother doing some research for my daughter. I must say I am very upset to see your anti vaccination memes. I have four personal experiences with diseases that now have vaccines, and I can tell you that not participating in vaccinations is a threat to so many in our community. My first experience was polio. When I was approximately three years old, I contracted the virus. I was extremely fortunate that I did not spend my life in an iron lung and that physical therapy was my back to health, but I could have been spared this unpleasantness if the vaccine were available. Second, my neighbor, a girl one year my junior, contracted measles when she was four. Her fever raged for days, and, even though she was hospitalized, she ended up with brain damage from which she never recovered. Third, was an experience I had teaching in a rural school with 110 children over 6 grade and kindergarten. All the students in the school were vaccinated, except for three children from two families who were both Jehovah Witnesses. All three of these children became very ill with whooping cough ( pertussis), missing upwards of three weeks of school, and being exhausted from their ordeal for many more weeks, while no one else in the school was sick. And finally, a woman I volunteered with in my daughters school lost her middle daughter when the child died, yes died, of chicken pox, when her heart was infected. Rare, but not unheard of.
Yes, it is difficult to trust the pharmaceutical industry, and the government is often mislead by lobbyists, but for a reasonable adult to not take the opportunity to protect their children from the ravages of preventable diseases that can have serious consequences is nothing short of neglectful parenting. These are not diseases of the past. These are diseases that exist now and in our communities, and require the support of all citizens to eradicate.
Pat says
Marilou,
I’m sorry you had bad experiences with those illnesses, but not everyone has had the same. Let me tell you about the carnage vaccination has left in my life.
I had measles as a child. I was ill for a week then I got better, when my unvaccinated daughter got measles she was still breast feeding and she was ill for maybe 3-4 days with a fever and touch of rash, then she was fine. When I was in fourth grade, the MMR vaccine came out. My school did a mass vaccination event. Even though I had had both measles and mumps already, I was given the vaccine, I felt ill for the rest of the week, but didn’t get my usual post vaccine reaction of extended full blown croup within a week of the jab. A good friend of mine also got the MMR vaccine that day, about 3 spaces ahead of me in line, and he had a very bad reaction. He had a 106F fever for 7 days. When the fever was over, at 11 years old, he could not talk, walk, eat, dress himself, or use the bathroom. His mother had to teach him how to do all those things again. He never returned to school and needs to be in supervised living to this day. The only lucky part of it is that it happened in the mid 1970s before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury act of 1986, so his parents sued and got a decent settlement from the vaccine maker, which helps his family afford his long term care.
When my unvaccinated daughter caught rubella, she was 8, it was a minor illness for her. I was vaccinated 3 times for rubella. I got a full blown adult case of it, because if there was ever any margin of protection from the MMR shot, it had gone away long ago. Rubella was awful, with fever and my eyes were swollen shut for a couple of days, until I used homeopathy to move the disease along. I would rather have got this when I was 8 instead of in my 30s.
I was vaccinated for pertussis twice, and I got pertussis about a year after the last jab, because the vaccine failed to do what the doctor claimed it would do. My unvaccinated daughter got pertussis from a vaccinated adult friend that had a long intractable”cold” for about 2-3 months long. My daughter was still breastfeeding and she never really was that ill. She had the cough and fever, but it was never that bad. I was even able to take her to her great grandfather’s funeral across the country at about 3 weeks into it, because it wasn’t that serious. My pertussis was really bad as a child and I nearly ended up in the hospital from it.
My daughter was exposed to polio, because we went to a holiday meal at my brother’s house, and they vaccinate their children. My daughter is a little over a year younger then her cousin, both kids were teething, and as babies do, they were sharing teething rings. Near the end of the evening my sister in law mentions that her son has just had his live polio vaccine less than a week ago. A few days later my daughter develops a lethargic cold like malady. Fortunately we go to naturopaths and homeopathy stopped the polio right in it’s tracks.
There have been 2 vaccine deaths in my family. My husband’s brother, and my first cousin’s son, both infants died within 6 hours of their first DPT shot. In both cases, the doctors brow beat the parents into accepting a SIDS diagnosis, even though the babies both didn’t “fall asleep” until they were dead. When I mentioned about our choice not to vaccinate my daughter to my husband’s father, he became upset and the whole story about the vaccine death of his second son came pouring out, and how he had always known the vaccines killed his son, but the doctors refused to even consider the possibility.
I have a friend who I don’t see much anymore. He took 3 of his children to get their shots, and all three became ill and are now diagnosed as autistic. The eldest was reading before that shot then had to learn to read all over again a year later. The younger ones suddenly needed to be put in diapers again, because they had lost the control they had before the shot. Remember the manufacturer inserts with the vaccine warn that autism could be a side effect of the MMR vaccine.
He’s glad they weren’t killed by the vaccine.
At the time when my daughter was born, the World Heath Organization warned to not vaccinate if there were other serious vaccine reactions or deaths in the family. This has been revised as more people know someone who has had a bad vaccine reaction. Doctors frequently don’t report bad reactions, because their training tells them it can’t happen. Best estimates are adverse reactions are reported about 1-10% of the time.
I hope you can see why I did not vaccinate my daughter, with all the destruction that vaccines have caused in my life and my family. Corporations have a vested interest in downplaying the dangers of vaccines, for it cuts into their profit margins. Just look at the stats from the NCVI court and how much taxpayer money has been spent to protect these immoral corporations from liability for their products. Then ask yourself is something isn’t wrong here.
Jack says
“I went to a house that had vaccinated kids and even though those kids were fine a few months later my kids got sick”
That is exactly what you are saying
j stick says
Hello, “Marilou”:
I think you are mistaken, or perhaps even dishonest.
“Jehovah’s Witnesses” do not oppose vaccination.
In fact, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are very strictly neutral in ALL “political” issues.
Since vaccinations have become so political, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are fairly certain to avoid getting involved in the dispute.
My mother has been a “Jehovah’s Witness” for about 50 years, she has a reputation for honesty, & if I ask her a question about her faith she will often find a publication that explains the matter. I’m very confident that she, & her “Witness” friends, are scrupulously honest because they believe that being dishonest would be the same as denying their faith in their God, “Jehovah”.
Further, having researched this a little, I’m convinced that the drug companies are extremely dishonest, corrupt, & untrustworthy. I’m just as convinced that the government is no better than the drug companies, & may be worse.
18 says
Definitely agreed. What a lot of people on weird antivax websites like this tend to say is how much money Big Pharma or the government makes from vaccines. I’m not saying Big Pharma itself is good by any means since it does have loads of problems, but vaccines like you’re saying have been proven to save millions of lives. It is true that they make a lot of money from vaccines, with the estimate being around $24 billion. But, what they don’t pay attention to is the fact that a study from 1994-2013 in the US showed that vaccines created a net savings of $235 billion in direct cost and $1.35 trillion in societal cost. Definitely way more than that $24 billion.
Amy says
Thank you Marilou! As a public health professional, my stomach just flipped at these memes. I am absolutely terrified of my baby coming into contact with a child that is not vaccinated.
And to those that are creating these memes, please, be very careful of your own bias. You cannot summarize complex research study findings into memes. You are doing a huge disservice to the community in doing so and are contributing to the problem of how people are consuming information. Instead, how about you link to the studies and encourage people to read them. Please- take down the memes. Give people actual information, not sound bites.
Maureen Diaz says
We appreciate your concern Amy. However, the purpose and scope of a meme is merely to spark interest and promote consideration of an idea. Perhaps we can do more by including a link to relevant studies or information, but it isn’t really possible to include details in a meme itself. Perhaps a quote with an active link would do? I will pass this on.
Amy says
I think it best to leave memes for entertainment purposes. You guys can do better. Create brochures, detailed and interactive webpages, etc. Offer people detailed, quality information. In the digital age far too many people are relying on memes and one liners as a source of truth, and for something as complex as vaccinations it just won’t do. Providing memes is just hurting your credibility I think.
Jack says
Memes are not for sparking interest or promoting consideration of an idea. They are for humor.
Maureen Diaz says
They are actually also used as a means to get information out and provoke thought. Most are for humor, but certainly not all.
Mom me says
There is a recent study done on vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Check them out.