FAQ-Homemade Baby Formula

The advice to make homemade baby formula as an alternative to commercial formula has been one of the most controversial positions taken by the Weston A. Price Foundation—and also one that has elicited the most grateful praise. While government officials and orthodox pediatricians are often appalled at the thought of a parent mixing up baby formula—and one based on raw milk, no less—the feedback we have received from parents has been extremely positive.

Some breastfeeding advocates have also criticized our stance, claiming that by providing a more healthy alternative to commercial formulas, we are discouraging breastfeeding. Make no mistake: the best food for baby is breastmilk from a healthy mother. However, many situations call out for a good substitute: adopted and orphaned babies, babies born to mothers with serious health problems, and babies whose mothers do not have enough milk (a situation that does happen occasionally) deserve to receive something better than commercial formula.

The following questions have been compiled by the authors over a period of several years and should cover most situations encountered by parents giving homemade formula to their babies. Refer to these Q&A when using our Recipes for Homemade Baby Formula. See also videos on making the formulas by Chapter Leader Sarah Pope: Milk-Based & Liver Based Formula Video.

Iron Supplementation?

Q: Does there need to be iron supplementation with cow’s milk formula? My son’s pediatrician freaked out when I told him I had my son on homemade formula (I didn’t tell him it was raw milk however to avoid another discussion). He told me my son needed to be on iron supplements because he wasn’t on commercial iron fortified formula. There is no mention of needed iron supplementation with the cow’s milk formula only the goat formula. Also reading I have read that iron from cow’s milk is not easily digestible for infants. I did notice there is 4% iron in the nutritional yeast.

A: Mother’s milk is low in iron for a reason–iron competes with zinc, which is needed for neurological development. However, the lacto-ferrin in raw milk helps the baby absorb all the iron that is there in the milk. If you will look at the nutrient charts for our formula recipes (see below) you will see that there is actually more iron in the homemade formulas than there is in breast milk, so there is no need whatsoever to add additional sources of iron up to the age of six months. At that time, the baby does need additional iron. This should be given in the form of egg yolks and liver–liver is the first weaning food in traditional cultures for this very reason–because at the age of six months, the baby does need additional iron.

Mixing the Formula

Q: When I give the formula to my baby, the oils float to the top and the baby ends up getting a lot of oil that makes him gag. So he ends up not getting all the oil in the formula.

A: Try this: gently warm the amount of formula you are going to give the baby, and then blend in the blender. The baby most likely will finish taking the formula before the oils separate. You can also give the cod liver oil separately, with an eye dropper, to ensure he is getting all he needs.

Q: Once I heat the gelatin until it dissolves it’s still hot and I mix it with the cold dairy ingredients and blend — should I let it cool off before mixing it with the dairy products in the blender?

A: In my experience, the gelatin did not get hot enough for it to matter about adding it to the colder ingredients. In fact, I melted all the ingredients that I had previously frozen. Above is my process, which may offer a little help.

Q: After I’ve blended the ingredients I’m left with quite a bit of foam on top of the mixed formula. I’ve been tossing out the foam — is that correct or should the foam settle to blend in with the liquefied formula underneath?

A: About the foam, I do remember there being a little that formed after blending, but once I poured it into the bottles and let them sit for a little bit it seemed to dissolve back into the formula. I would try leaving it and see what happens, if anything it is one less step you have to do.

Using the Lact-Aid

Q: In order to continue to nurse while I am giving formula to my baby, I am trying to use the Lact-Aid device (which carries the formula through a small tube that the baby takes in his mouth while also suckling on the breast). But the formula is too thick and keeps clogging up the tube.

A: Be sure that the formula is well blended (in a blender) before putting it in the Lact-Aid and also that it is warm enough. It is best to use the Lact-Aid with raw milk, not cultured milk, as the latter tends to be thicker. You may also try leaving out the gelatin. One other option is to add about 1/4 cup more water to the formula. The nutrients will be less concentrated, but he is also getting your breast milk.

Additive in Acerola Powder

Q: I notice that the NOW brand acerola powder for the formula contains maltodextrin. I am concerned about giving any additives to my baby, especially one derived from corn.

A: At the moment, the only acerola powder available to us is the NOW brand, which contains maltodextrin as a flowing agent. Acerola powder really does get caked up without some kind of agent. So, until we find a brand with a better flowing agent, this is the best we can do. Baby really does need vitamin C and the amount of maltodextrin is very small.

Reaction to the Formula

Q: My baby threw up repeatedly from the formula. Through a process of elimination, I found that my baby was having a severe reaction to the added nutritional yeast. My baby was born with a very weak system and we, her parents, are very sensitive also. What does a parent do for what’s missing without the nutritional yeast?

A: The yeast is not absolutely necessary in the cow’s milk formula but it is in the goat milk formula. If goat milk is the only milk available to you, then switch to the liver-based formula (see the next question).

Spitting Up

Q: What modifications do I make if my baby is spitting up frequently?

A: If you are using the cow’s milk formula, first try eliminating the nutritional yeast, which may be causing the problem. If that does not work, then switch to the goat milk formula; if the problem persists, try the liver-based formula. We can cite several examples of babies who had extreme reactions to any milk-based formula (including projectile vomiting) who did beautifully on the liver-based formula.

Commercial Formula Brands

Q: Is it possible to use other commercial brands of formula when making the Fortified Commercial Formula recipe? I’ve seen other suggestions made on mercola.com.

A: The only formula brand we recommend is the one made by Mead Johnson. It is the only commercial formula that we know of that uses lactose and it also contains coconut oil. The recipe should be made up for one day only. The Mead Johnson formula is only a stop gap formula to be used in emergencies or when the ingredients for homemade formula are temporarily unavailable.

Update: We are sorry to report that the Mead Johnson (Enfamil) Low Iron formula is no longer available. In fact, all commercial formula now contains iron, by FDA decree. The best choice for commercial formula today seems to be Baby’s Only Organic Dairy Formula. It contains iron but otherwise contains higher quality ingredients than any of the other commercial formulas. It is also the only brand on the market at this time without the Martek DHASCO and ARASCO additive. If you are forced to use commercial formula, make sure that baby is getting cod liver oil, either added to the formula or given with an eye dropper or syringe. As soon as possible, introduce solid foods like egg yolk, liver, meat and bone broths.

Powdered Whey

Q: Can I use dry milk powders from high quality sources like Garden of Life’s Goatein, if I can’t find a good source of raw or organic milk?

A: We do not recommend powdered goat whey—it is lacking in casein. And no matter how carefully it is processed, whey proteins are very fragile and the proteins are going to be altered in processing—that is why scientists do not use whey-based feed in animal experiments. Instead, they use dried casein, which is a much less fragile protein. We heard from one parent in California who was using Goatein, when she could have gone out to the store and bought raw milk. If you can’t get raw milk, you should make the meat-based formula. Powdered whey is not appropriate—this is a whole foods formula.

Making Whey

Q: I’m having trouble getting raw milk to separate to make fresh whey. Basically it sours but never separates. One recipe for whey calls for bringing milk with added salt to a boil, adding 2 tablespoons lemon juice and stirring until it is curdled. Is it OK to make whey this way?

A: It takes longer to make fresh whey from raw milk than it does from yoghurt, sometimes up to 5-6 days for the milk to really separate, especially in cooler weather. Set raw milk on the counter in an airtight glass container. When the milk looks really awful, then you know that it has separated. If you are still having trouble, make whey out of already cultured milk (yoghurt or kefir) or with a top brand of commercial whole milk yoghurt, such as Seven Stars Farm or Brown Cow. With yoghurt you can make whey overnight. Making whey by adding lemon juice to boiled milk negates all the good things about your raw milk, and you will not be putting back any good enzymes or bacteria, which is what happens in yoghurt making.

Freezing the Formula

Q: Can I freeze the formula? What is the best method to thaw? I am guessing warm water. I would freeze the formula in mason freezer jars that are 8-ounce capacity.

A: We recommend making the formula fresh daily—this is part of your new baby routine. The exception might be when you are traveling and yes, you can set the jars in warm water to thaw. However, raw milk may be frozen with no ill effects. Many parents must drive long distances to pick up their raw milk, and the solution to this is to obtain it in large quantities and freeze it. When the raw milk thaws, there will be small clumps of cream that can be smoothed out with a whisk or by putting the milk in a blender.

Modifying the Formula

Q: My daughter has 5-month-old twins and we’re in the process of weaning them off of infant formula. I have ordered milk from one of the dairy farmers mentioned on the Weston A. Price Foundation’s website. This particular farmer does pasteurize his milk but only to a degree that does not destroy the enzymes in the milk. My question to you is what variations can be made in the formula that would make this affordable as well as a good formula for the twins. My daughter and her husband are on a budget that won’t allow a large monthly expense for the ingredients. Is there some way that the formula can be varied so that it won’t cost that much for them? Also, I know my daughter won’t have the time to make the easy whey recipe. Please give suggestions as to how to make this work affordably for them. My daughter is on the WIC program and the ONLY formula approved is the Similac (which is what the twins are on now).

A: We do not recommend altering the formula to save money. You could be compromising a child. The recipe was formulated to exact specifications to mimic nutrient-rich human mother’s milk. If you find that raw milk with shipping is too expensive, then do the meat-based formula, which is less expensive. The homemade formula ingredients cost just under $4 per day, through mail order with shipping charges, or when purchased locally with sales tax. This does not include the cost of the milk and cream, which varies widely. Similac costs around $4 per day, including average local sales tax. So while the initial homemade formula cost including milk and cream will be higher, over the long run it is much cheaper considering the typical health challenges and costs that come with conventional formula. This, of course, says nothing about creating a superior foundation for your child’s optimal development and lifelong health.

If your daughter must rely on the only formula that WIC allows, she should use the fortified formula recipe. Unfortunately, from reports we receive from parents, Similac is one of the most problematic formulas for babies. In fact, virtually every parent we’ve heard from, who has had their baby on commercial formula before using the homemade formula, reports very unfortunate stories. We recommend fortifying commercial formula only as an emergency backup. We have hundreds of customers report to us that when they get their babies off commercial formula, their health issues disappear and the babies thrive. They become radiant babies with vibrant health and beautiful dispositions.

I can really appreciate the circumstances of your daughter, and not with just one baby, but two! As far as the quick way to make whey, if she doesn’t have time to take a container of yogurt, pour it into a strainer lined with cheese cloth and collect the liquid after it drains, she really doesn’t have time to be doing any part of this recipe. Once you get into the routine, it is very easy. Parents report that it’s very fast and easy to make up the formula. Just think of how time-consuming it will be when these twins are age 2 and eat solid food and meals have to be prepared for them! Draining whey from yogurt will look easy!

Refrigerated Ingredients

Q: Which of the added ingredients should be refrigerated?

A: Sunflower oil and bifidum; keep the cod liver oil in a cool, dark place.

Is Bifidum Infantis Necessary?

Q: Would you need to put bifidus in the formula if you were using cultured milk? Wouldn’t cultured milk contain bifidus?

A: No, bifidum infantis is a beneficial gut flora that predominates in the infant until age 7. Infants can’t get it except from the mother in the birth canal, and then it’s still helpful to get more.

Is Raw Milk Safe?

Q: If I’m not comfortable using the raw milk in the formula because the woman at the farm I spoke to did not recommend giving their raw milk to infants; she said that not every single container could be tested, so there was no guarantee that every container was bacteria-free. What could be some acceptable substitutes? I would think that if I cultured the raw milk with kefir powder or kefir grains, then the beneficial bacteria would kill any bad bacteria that might be in the milk. Another alternative that I thought of was to pasteurize the milk from the farm myself and then culture it. My only concern is that what if I don’t pasteurize properly, will the beneficial bacteria from the kefir powder take care of any mistakes I made. (I already experimented with this and it was difficult, even with constant stirring, to keep the top layer of milk at the right temperature.) A third alternative that I thought of is to use some good quality yogurt from the health food store. What do you think of these ideas? Can you help alleviate any of my fears about bad bacteria? I don’t want to take any unnecessary chances with my child.

A: Farmers need to be careful when speaking to the public, but you can be assured that if basic sanitation measures are followed, raw milk is completely safe, in fact, safer than pasteurized milk. Raw milk contains many bioactive components that get rid of bad bacteria. When bad bacteria such as E. coli are added to raw milk, these components get rid of them. Of course, this marvelous system for getting rid of pathogens can be overwhelmed if the cows are very unhealthy and the milk gets dirty. Basic sanitation measures include testing of the cows to make sure they are disease free; washing the teats with iodine solution before milking; using a milking machine; and storing the milk in a stainless steel bulk tank, glass bottles or hard plastic bottles at a cool temperature.

Most important, the cows should be on pasture as much as possible, and in the winter, in a well ventilated barn fed mostly hay. We do not recommend using any kind of milk, even raw milk, from cows kept in confinement, especially when the diet is based on grain and includes such additives as citrus peel cake and bakery waste. We recommend using cultured pasteurized milk only when raw milk is unavailable and in this case, the meat-based formula is probably preferable, given the way milk is processed today. We do not recommend pasteurizing your own milk, it is too risky.

Pasteurized Cow’s Milk or Raw Goat Milk?

Q: If you have a choice of cow’s organic, pasteurized unhomogenized milk that you have cultured or raw goat’s milk supplemented with raw liver, which would you choose? We do not have access to organic liver.

A: Use the raw goat milk plus liver recipe. Just use the best that you can find. Probably in this case, you should use calves liver or lambs liver, which would be a cleaner product than chicken. Another solution is to use desiccated liver (Carlson’s brand is good).

Safety of Raw Liver

Q: I am afraid to use the raw liver, as called for in the raw goat milk formula.

A: As long as you freeze the liver for 14 days, it is safe; however if you are concerned, you can simmer the liver before adding it. An alternative is the liver-based formula which calls for simmering the liver in broth.

Dry Kefir Culture

Q: Is Body Ecology’s dry kefir culture just as acceptable as the piima culture or culturing with kefir grains? GEM cultures has been a real problem for people—sometimes it takes six weeks to get their cultures. Do you like the powdered kefir culture?

A: We hear that the powdered kefir gets really thick—like yoghurt—so it does not work very well in the formula. GEM cultures was initially overwhelmed by orders, but has now caught up and is shipping as soon as people order.

Taxing the Kidneys

Q: I’ve read that the high solute load in goat’s milk results in a taxing of the kidneys. Can you explain this to me? What can I do to avoid this? Is just diluting the goat’s milk enough?

A: Yes, this is why we dilute both the cow and goat formula with water.

Cream in the Liver Formula

Q: Why is there no need for cream (or nutrients thereof) in the liver formula? Does the liver take care of what the other oils don’t?

A: This is supposed to be a casein-free formula. The coconut oil supplies the saturated fats. Coconut oil is essential in this formula.

Maximum Storage Time

Q: Is 24 hours the maximum you would consider storing mixed formula in the refrigerator?

A: Yes, to be safe, you should mix up the formula fresh every morning.

Beef or Chicken Liver

Q: Is there a preference for beef or chicken liver? The goat formula recommends chicken liver but the meat formula just states “liver.”

A: We used chicken liver for the goat milk formula because that gave us the best equivalent to the nutrients in mother’s milk. For the liver formula, beef or lamb liver give the best equivalents. However, for babies older than six months, you can use chicken, beef or lamb in either formula.

Soy Feeding Of Animals

Q: If a cow or chicken is eating soy, is there a concern for that with the liver?

A: Of course, it would be better if the chickens were completely pastured and not getting soy but this is very rare. However, the estrogens would be stored mostly in the chicken fat and not in the liver. Beef is not fed much soy so the beef liver is also OK.


Q: My baby has become constipated on the goat milk formula.

A: Goat milk is more likely to be constipating than cow’s milk, which is one reason we recommend a formula based on cow’s milk as the first choice. A small amount of diluted prune juice may help and one parent had good luck adding a little warmed molasses to the formula. The Digestive Tea in Nourishing Traditions is also a good remedy. It is very important that baby’s stool not become impacted. A baby suppository should help him evacuate his bowels if the other methods do not work.

Q: I have been making the milk-based formula for 10 days and realize that it makes the baby constipated and she only has 1-2 bowel movements per day as opposed to the regular 4-6 she had on formula and they are more solid than liquid.

A: Actually 4-6 liquid bowel movements per day is not normal and the 1-2 more solid bowel movements per day is appropriate. The stool should be firm enough to be shaped, but not hard.

Feeding Juice

Q: A popular juice book recommends giving juices to a baby after 5 months. What do you think of this idea?

A: It’s a terrible idea! Apart from a little prune juice in cases of constipation, babies should not be given juice. There is no real nourishment for babies in juice—the vegetable juices are difficult for babies to digest and many contain a variety of anti-nutrients; and the fruit juices will be too sweet. And this rule applies right through the growing years. Do not get your child in the juice habit—these juices are very high in sugar and difficult-to-digest carbohydrates and can take away their appetite for nourishing foods.

Lost Weight on the Formula

Q: My 6-month-old baby was doing fine on the cow’s milk formula but suddenly broke out in a rash and lost 3 pounds. Should I switch to the liver-based formula?

A: Whenever there is a sudden weight loss after doing well on the formula, parents should look for other causes. In this case, with questioning, it emerged that the weight loss occurred after the baby had been given 4 vaccinations in one day! Exposure to pesticides or toxins is another culprit. If a cause like this can be pinpointed, then it would be best to stay on the formula that is working for the child. If no other cause can be determined, then try switching to another formula.

When to Switch To Plain Raw Milk

Q: At what age can we switch from formula to plain raw milk?

A: The answer to this depends on the age, weight and maturity of the child. A child that was premature, very small or delayed in development may benefit from taking the formula in a bottle well past the first year. But a child who is growing well, sitting up, eating solid foods and able to sip from a cup can probably transition to raw milk sometime after the 8th month.

Formula for Older Children

Q: I have a 3-year-old and a 5-year-old who suffer from asthma, bronchitis, eczema and other chronic issues. Can I use the formula as a supplement? I want a way to get really good nutrition into my kids.

A: This is worth a try. You may want to give the cod liver oil separately. (You can do this with an eye dropper.)

Feeding Tube

Q: We have a child who is being fed with a feeding tube. Can we use the formula in this case?

A: Yes, the formula would be very appropriate and would supply the child with good whole nutrition while he heals.

Yahoo Group for Parents

Q: Where can I go to get advice and communicate with other parents using the homemade formula?

A: A new Weston A. Price Healthy Babies Yahoo Group has been formed. Subjects will include preconception diets, pregnancy diets, breastfeeding, health issues and homemade formula. Anyone is welcome. To register, go to http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/newwaphb/ .

Nutrient Comparison

Q: Do you know the nutrient profile for breast milk vs. your homemade formulas?

A: See our nutrient comparison chart at the end of our Recipes for Homemade Baby Formula page.

Liver-Based Infant Formula

Q. When making the liver-based formula, can I use chicken broth made with just the chicken or do I have to make it with vegetables and spices?

A. You can use just chicken or chicken bones.

Q. Should the chicken broth be made daily and should I only use organic chicken?

A. You can make a big batch of chicken broth and refrigerate or freeze. Organic chicken would be best, but you can use non organic if that is all you can find. You can also use the bones left from baked or broiled chicken.

Q. What is the shelf life of the formula? Do I have to prepare it daily?

A. Daily is better but you can make it every other day if you need it while traveling or if your baby only takes a small amount.

Q. I would like to supplement my breast milk with about 10 ounces a day. How do I figure the amount?

A. I would make up the full batch and give half each day.

Q. What type of liver should I use, lamb or chicken?

A. Either is fine.

Q. How do you include the coconut oil without it solidifying or clumping?

A. The coconut oil is very important, be sure to warm it gently before adding.

Cod Liver Oil in Formula/Too Much EPA?

Q. I recently ordered the ingredients for home made infant formula and I have one concern. Although my wife and I take cod liver oil daily, I have read that fish oils contain too much EPA for babies. It is suggested that the EPA competes with DHA and can cause stunting of growth. The commercial formulas use an algal sourced DHA/ARA, but it doesn’t seem to be available to consumers. I could buy Neuromins supplements and break them open, but that would not provide the ARA. Is the EPA a real concern?

A. We do NOT recommend fish oil, not for babies nor adults, but high vitamin or fermented cod liver oil, which supplies A and D without giving too much EPA and DHA. The EPA in cod liver oil will not compete with the DHA–these two always occur together in food. And do not use the synthetic DHA/ARA, we have heard bad reports from this. The baby will get ARA from the butterfat in the milk.

We have had nothing but good reports on growth from babies on our homemade formula

Raw Milk Formula

Q. I have a question about the raw milk infant formula. My two month old adopted daughter has been taking the formula since she was about three weeks old, when we ran out of breast milk donated by a friend. She is doing very well on this but the pediatrician has concerns about the “low’ iron in the formula. I have seen the comparison chart that shows about 3-4 times the iron content of breast milk. The pediatrician is comparing it to the high iron formulas that have about 10 times the amount of iron as the raw milk formula. Do you have any information or opinion whether I should supplement with more iron?

A. You should NOT give extra iron in the first six months. Iron competes with zinc, needed for neurological development. Besides, the lactoferrin in raw milk helps the baby efficiently absorb the iron that is there. By 6 months, the baby does require extra iron and that is why the first weaning food in almost all cultures is liver. Egg yolks are also a good source of iron. So don’t give supplements, but start with iron-rich foods by six months.

Q. I have a 5-month-old baby whom I primarily breastfeed but also supplement with 8 ounces daily. I want to do your formula but am confused. I was told that babies should not have any oils added to their diet and that raw milk alone is sufficient to meet the baby’s needs. The same person told me fish oil is toxic because of the extraction process and should not be consumed by anyone (her information is taken from the work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz). She said the oils are solvent reactive, binding to toxins therefore pushing detoxification in the infant. Is this information correct?

A. If you do our formula, please follow the recipe exactly. It was designed to provide the same fatty acid profile as mother’s milk, hence the addition of the oils. The cod liver oil is VERY important to add; it is not toxic, but provides much needed vitamins A and D. Aajonus is not right about everything, he is not a scientist. Mary Enig, who formulated these recipes, is a highly trained scientist. Go to the following links to read about the formula and the testimonials:

We have a reprint on Children’s Health that you can order from our Store. It will help you as baby transitions into solid food.

Egg Yolks for Infants

Q. My 6 months old son is vomiting after eating egg yolk; what do you suggest?

A. If your son is having trouble with the egg yolk, just hold off and try to introduce it later. We did have one mother who was having this problem, but when she added a small amount of liver and salt to the egg yolk, the baby was fine. Remember to also add the salt.

Q. I have a 4-month old whom I’d like to introduce to solid foods. Your article indicates that egg yolk and bananas are a great start. How many servings of each should I offer per day?

A. It depends a lot on the baby, but 1 egg yolk and then perhaps 1/2 banana?

Q: How do you suggest feeding my child egg yolk when he cannot sit?

A: I would wait until the baby is sitting up before feeding the egg yolk. Give it on a spoon. You will have a mess the first few times, but then he will get used to it.

Q: My son, now 11 months, doesn’t seem to be able to tolerate egg yolk and liver. I have tried giving him the yolk (less than a ¼ tsp) at 5.5 months, 7 months, and 9 months and each time he threw up about 3 hours after eating it. Then same thing happened with chicken liver. My doctor said that he might have developed hyper-sensitivity to them if I ate too much of these while pregnant. What can I feed him to give him enough fat-soluble vitamins?

A: Please don’t blame yourself for this. Are you giving him cod liver oil? This is the first thing I would try–using an eyedropper. Use the fermented cod liver oil from Green Pasture–this seems to be the best tolerated brand. How about other foods? At nine months, he really should be getting other foods such as pureed meats, mashed banana, whole yogurt, etc.

Q: I read that removing the gelatin from the formula makes the formula flow better through the Lactaid. QUESTION is, what’s lost in removing the gelatin? (I.e. nutrition-wise?) Is the gelatin just for texture or does it have important nutritional value?

A: The gelatin makes the formula easier to digest. If the baby is not having any problems digesting it then you can leave the gelatin out.

Q: At times we will have to freeze the formula. I know it’s posted that you are supposed to make it fresh every day but there will be times (at least for us) when this won’t be possible and I’d still prefer using thawed WAP cow’s formula to anything commercial. Therefore, QUESTIONS is:

Which ingredients lose nutritional value or potency when freezing? (I could leave a few ingredients out and add before serving). Some say that you cannot freeze the formula if the probiotics and acerola are mixed in—these must be added separately after the formula is thawed. Is this correct information or is it okay to freeze the probiotics and acerola…

A; I would add the probiotics after thawing. I don’t think the freezing will hurt the acerola.

Q: I am an anesthetist and regularly provide pain relief to women in labor. My impression is that the ability to give birth has changed over the last decades, in large part probably due to changes in nutrition. Overall, it is more difficult, and more women require interventions such as epidural,
forceps or caesarean sections.

My question is, could you point out to me publications researching this topic, the influence of nutrition on the related anatomy and physiology of childbirth, links between nutrition and problems with deliveries.

A: I wish I could point out research that looks at diet and the resulting anatomy–isn’t is shameful that nothing has been done since Dr. Price?

Probably the best book on this is an old (1930s) book called Safe Childbirth by Dr. Kathleen Vaughn, which Dr. Price mentions in Chapter 19 and also on page 412 in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. I was able to read this book in England, but unable to obtain a copy, so we don’t have it in our library. She shows the different pelvic shapes, which Price believes correspond to the facial shape–i.e. narrow face = narrow, oval pelvic opening = difficult childbirth. Round face = round pelvic opening = easy childbirth. (Unfortunately, she misses the mark on diet, but nevertheless it is a very interesting book.) So you can see why there are so many Caesarians necessary today, with so many ending up with narrow face and consequently a narrow pelvic opening.

Probably the best research today is the research on vitamin K–we now think that vitamin K2 (the animal form) is the same as Dr. Price’s Activator X. (See the Spring 2008 issue of Wise Traditions) A sign of vitamin K deficiency is lack of development in the middle third of the face (that is, a narrow face), so lack of vitamin K would be expected to contribute to narrowing of the pelvic opening.

I also think that diet has something to do with how we can deal with pain. Mary Enig believes that MSG makes us very susceptible to pain, (this is her own personal experience) and I would guess that many nutrients (particularly vitamins A, D and K2) contribute to an ability to deal with pain.

What I can say is that our mothers who get on our diet for pregnant women usually report an easy childbirth. See (http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/diet-for-pregnant-and-nursing-mothers/) . This would be a very good study to do–looking at the relationship between maternal diet and difficulty of labor.

Q: I have a question about the baby formula, specifically the goat milk variation. My son is 8 months old and I had to put him on soy formula at 6 months after breastfeeding because he was not gaining enough weight. I am slowly transitioning to the goat milk formula but he has developed a rash on his face which I think may be caused by the lactose. I have been very careful not to introduce new foods during this process. Is it possible to omit the lactose from the formula or to use it at half strength? If so, would I need to make sure there is more goat milk in the formula? In place of the cow’s cream I am using coconut milk already. I did a trial before starting the homemade formula and gave him some raw goat milk with a little whey (made from homemade goat milk yogurt). He did fine on this without rashes breaking out.

A: How much does the baby weigh? Is he sitting up? If he is mature enough, you could probably just give him raw goat milk now, and not do the formula. But you should also be giving him cod liver oil, egg yolks and pureed liver, so that he does not develop folic acid deficiency. These will help mitigate any potential problems with the soy. See the link below for an article on infant feeding, and be sure to order our Healthy Baby Issue from the Foundation.

Use only our recommended brands of cod liver oil–see the section on cod liver oil on the website.


This article appeared in Wise Traditions in Food, Farming and the Healing Arts, the quarterly magazine of the Weston A. Price Foundation, Summer 2005.

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<p><strong>VIDEO</strong>: Chapter leader Sarah Pope has posted videos about making both the raw milk and liver formulas:</p>
<li>Milk-Based Formula: <a href=“http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2010/09/video-homemade-milk-based-baby-formula.html” target=“_blank”>thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2010/09/video-homemade-milk-based-baby-formula.html</a></li>
<li>Liver-Based Formula: <a href=“http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2010/09/video-hypoallergenic-baby-formula.html” target=“_blank”>thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2010/09/video-hypoallergenic-baby-formula.html</a></li>

Sally Fallon Morell is the founding president of the Weston A. Price Foundation and founder of A Campaign for Real Milk. She is the author of the best-selling cookbook, Nourishing Traditions (with Mary G. Enig, PhD) and the Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care (with Thomas S. Cowan, MD). She is also the author of Nourishing Broth (with Kaayla T. Daniel, PhD, CCN). ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Mary G. Enig, PhD, FACN, CNS, is an expert of international renown in the field of lipid chemistry. She has headed a number of studies on the content and effects of trans fatty acids in America and Israel and has successfully challenged government assertions that dietary animal fat causes cancer and heart disease. Recent scientific and media attention on the possible adverse health effects of trans fatty acids has brought increased attention to her work. She is a licensed nutritionist, certified by the Certification Board for Nutrition Specialists; a qualified expert witness; nutrition consultant to individuals, industry and state and federal governments; contributing editor to a number of scientific publications; Fellow of the American College of Nutrition; and President of the Maryland Nutritionists Association. She is the author of over 60 technical papers and presentations, as well as a popular lecturer. She is the author of Know Your Fats, a primer on the biochemistry of dietary fats as well as of Eat Fat Lose Fat (Penguin, Hudson Street Press, 2004). She is the mother of three healthy children.

189 Responses to FAQ-Homemade Baby Formula

  1. Blakely Page says:

    Can you give me any tips for particles settling at the bottom and clogging the nipple when feeding? Should I strain the whole batch through cheese cloth before storing or is this an issue with how I am combining ingredients? Thank you!

    • Zela says:

      You vigorously mix those particles all together. They should be able to go through the nipple. If they do not perhaps you need to heat and wisk the gelatin more in order to have it truly melted and dissolved. I’ve discovered that to the only time it wouldn’t go through the nipple. Hope your baby is doing well.

  2. Rebecca says:

    My baby has been on formula since he was 7 months old, unfortunately at the time my milk supply seemed to dry up and we were advised to just switch to formula. He is now about 10 1/2 months old, and I just came across the information about making homemade formula. I am interested, but with reservations. If I have read the information correctly in both of my baby books and at other web locations, I am to transition him over to regular cow’s milk when he reaches a year old. That means I only have at most 2 more months of being on formula. I am concerned that if I gather all of the ingredients needed and put forth the extra expense to make my own formula that he may reject it, and I will be left with a number of ingredients that I have no use for once he is on cow’s milk. I saw the post about commercial baby formula to use Baby’s Only organic, but after looking at the ingredients list I see that it has soy just like the regular Enfamil I have been using. I would like to hear your suggestions and guidance as to what you recommend me to do. Thanks!

  3. claudia says:

    I am so confused about the liver based formula. I ordered the expensive kit from Radiant Life. I am new to this so I should have done more research. I don’t understand why so many of the products in this formula use milk based items? The bifidobacterium is dairy based, the liquid whey is dairy based as is the lactose powder. If my child is reacting to the dairy how does this formula help? I’ve mixed it up minus the whey and the lactose, so how great is my nutrient loss? It is so stressful to make choices for your baby anyhow, but to add in these types of questions complicates the process further. Can someone please explain?
    Thank you.

  4. Kirsty says:

    Hi there,is can’t seem to find the goat milk formula recipe. I am about to order desiccated liver powder, hoe much do you use per bottle?

  5. Kirsty says:

    Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if I get cream from the raw milk, that would be taking the necessary cream out from the milk They cream they need?
    So the adding of cream is in addiction to the cream already in the milk?
    So I should buy a separate carton of milk to get the cream out of that to use extra?
    Sorry for the stupid question.

  6. Kirsty says:

    My daughter doesn’t drink 32 ounces a day, am I able then to follow the left over to the next day and so on?

  7. Kirsty says:

    I only have sheets of gelatin, that is 100%… Whilst I order off Amazon am I able to use this?

  8. Kelly Ford says:

    Hi! I am very excited to try this, however, my daughter (one month old tomorrow) has protein intolerances. I was advised to try making this formula with coconut milk rather than the whole raw milk for now and that as her digestive system matures, we can try adding the raw milk (my son has MSPI as well and could not tolerate regular milk based products until 6 months old… it is NOT a lactose intolerance, it is a protein intolerance).
    Would this be an ok thing to do? We NEED a milk free option and are currently on similac alimentum but want to get away from commercial formulas.
    Thank you!
    Kelly Ford

    • Kirsty says:

      Hi there

      My baby seems to get constipated on any cows milk formula including his one.
      Is there another substitute for the liver as we are vegetarians and I Cannot work with liver nor feed it to my baby.
      Is there another form of b12?
      Another question is in Durban South Africa I cannot find raw goats milk, am I able to use pasteurized goats milk?

      • Tim Boyd says:

        Try the digestive tea for baby in Nourishing Traditions for constipation. Do NOT use pasteurized goats milk for your baby, keep trying with the raw goat milk. We really do NOT recommend raising children as vegetarians–they are likely to suffer from anemia and other deficiencies.

  9. sara says:

    How long can I store homemade baby formula in the freezer?

  10. Inês Ângelo says:

    Can i use organic camu-camu instead acerola powder?
    Is bifidus infantis absolutely necessary in goat’s milk based formula?

  11. Kirsty says:

    We have been on this formula for nearly a month. It has been amazing. She suffered from conatipation in the fort week but that’s sorted itself out now

    Since we started she started getting baby acne. Started on her eye lid now it’s under Her mouth and around both eyes. I think it must an allergy to an ingredient.

    i obviously need to figure out what it is. Have you got any idea where I can start?

  12. Maria says:

    Hello! Is BABYS ONLY ORGANIC still the best choice of commercial formula out there in 2014? I see this report was made in 2005…. Thank you.

    P.s. I love this website and recommend it to everyone who asks me how I raise my 9mo daughter. She is always very happy and strong. Because she’s healthy. I kept to the pregnancy diet. :):):)))

    • Tim Boyd says:

      There are very few options out there and none are anywhere close to perfect but as far as we know, Baby’s Only is one of the better choices. Our research does need to be updated but that will take some time.

  13. Ray says:

    Where do I find the actual formula?

  14. Patrick says:

    My baby is 4 months old and was born 10 weeks premature. She has struggled with commercial formulas and struggled with goat milk formula. Mom isn’t producing enough breast milk and we are looking for another formula to supplement. Is she too young to put on liver based formula? I do not see any instructions on age limitations for liver based formula. I understand that too much iron at such a young age can be dangerous and liver has high concentration s of iron relative to most other foods.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally: You will just have to try it. We have a couple of cases where the baby started at one week of age and just thrived on the liver formula–it can be life saving for some babies.

  15. Rebecca says:

    I am in El Salvador and cannot get organic liver. I am trying to order ingredients online from the US. Is it okay to use a dried liver in the formula? If so, how much would you use and what do you recommend? I would have to use the meat based formula as I cannot get safe raw milk here.

    My only other alternative is to used powdered goats milk. How bad is that compared to formula? And if I can’t get liver, what can I use for B-12?

    I am desperately trying to give my baby good food since I do not have enough milk for her and she refuses to nurse.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Yes, make the formula with meat instead of liver but add a little of the dried liver to it. Be sure to add the coconut oil, it is a very important part of this formula. This would be better than powdered goats milk.

    • Kirsty says:

      What have you decided to do? I feel your pain !!

  16. Kirsty says:

    We have been on this formula for a month. It has been amazing. She suffered from conatipation in the first week but that’s sorted itself out now

    Since we started she started getting baby acne. Started on her eye lid now it’s under Her mouth and around both eyes. I think it must an allergy to an ingredient.

    i obviously need to figure out what it is. Have you got any idea where I can start?

    Please respond.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Start by taking out the nutritional yeast and if that doesn’t work, take out the gelatin. These are not absolutely essential to the formula.

      • Kirsty says:

        How long would one need to wait for? It’s been 3 days without the nutritional yeast. It seems to flare up more whilst she’s eating.

        • Kirsty says:

          When I took out the nutritional yeast my baby suffered from constipation. My out it back, she had normal bowel movements again.

          I’m now trying the gelatin.

          If these both don’t work what can you recommend? Surely it’s not cows milk? She’s been on cows milk formula since day one and no rash?

  17. debby says:

    would there be any need for iron supplementation as iron for the raw coww milk seems preety low in comparison to conventional formula and doctors say a baby needs at leat 10mg/day of iron?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally: The baby absorbs all the iron from raw milk, so in most cases iron supplements are not necessary. At 4-6 months, add iron-rich foods such as pureed liver and egg yolk.

  18. Kelly says:

    What can I use in place of cream on goat formula baby is cow dairy (even raw) allergic/ sensative…

  19. Kirsty says:

    I have taken out both gelatin and nutritional yeast to see what my baby is reacyibg to. Doing this it has caused her bowels to to mess up completely and she’s constipafed.

    It doesn’t seem to be either of those two. I doubt it would be cows milk has she was fine on formulas before this.

    Please advise my next step?

  20. Rebecca says:

    Would it be okay to add a little ginger and garlic to the stock for the liver based formula? Can you tell me how much dessicated liver to use since I can’t get it fresh organic? I don’t want to use too much since I am concerned about vitamin A toxicity.

    If I can’t get farm-raised chickebs, is it still okay to add their organs to the stock when I make it?

    Than you for all of your help!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally: Yes, should be OK
      Can’t you get organic chicken livers?? Or order frozen liver from a farmer? 1/2 tsp desiccated liver as the correct substitution for the 2 grated tsp of fresh chicken liver. In the goat milk formula you should use 1/4 tsp.
      Yes, preferably using organic organs to make stock.

  21. Rebecca says:

    I live in El Salvador and nothing is organic. I can get a farm-raised chicken every now and then, but it is rare. They don’t come in large quantities and neither do their organs. The only places that sell chickens use chicken feed and hormones, etc. I am assuming making the stock from these chickens and using that in the formula is better than commercial formula, correct?

  22. Kirsty says:

    I’m back. I’m at a loss of what to do.

    Her rash is terrible. Cod liver oil isn’t helping.
    I know his sounds bad but can I just give her the milk and water for a day and see if she still gets that reaction? Then I’ll know it’s the milk. If not I can start adding in ingredients one by one. I do have some liver frozen need to wait a while longer tho – If it’s the milk and go onto the bone broth formula.

    Please help

  23. Mixhelle says:

    Hi there
    Is it possible to replace the water with bone broth in the raw milk formula ? And then skip adding the gelatin ? I would like my baby to get the nutrients from the bone broth.

  24. Desiree Kurta says:

    My daughter gave birth to my granddaughter are 32 1/2 weeks gestation. Her preemie daughter stayed in the hospital for 45 days. The pediatrician ordered iron without the consent or knowledge of my daughter….baby started getting gastrointestinal pain…gas, backarching, explosive “orange” diarrhea, and she was inconsolable. This happened every evening and symptoms would ease off slowly until the next afternoon and again return in the evening. The nurses and pediatrician kept asking my daughter what she was eating, as her breastmilk was the cause of the GI distress. Anyways i saw one of the nurses giving granddaughter iron and asked how long they had been giving it to her for, she said since birth. This was on a Sunday her symptoms started on a the friday. I spoke to a pharmacist friend of mine and asked him about the side effects of iron and they matched my granddaughters symptoms, he also said the dose being given is too large if her symptoms are that severe. Ugh
    So the following day we spoke to another nurse about the iron and asked if she could find out when baby started iron…..she checked and it was started on the same Friday her symptoms/side effects started. My daughter had her taken off the iron, and was bullied by the nurses and pediatrician, they said babies mental and nervous system development will be compromised without iron supplementation because of her premature age. My question is…if my daughter followed a wapf diet does she need to supplement her baby with more iron and if so can desiccated liver be mixed in with her breast milk (for a bottle feed) to supplement her, without affecting other processes in the body like zinc absorption. I am afraid the iron stores baby did have were maybe compromised from the initial doses of iron and her body maybe eliminated her stores with her reaction to the iron supplement as the explosive diarrhea would lower these stores. Please help as we don’t want her harmed if supplementation is absolutely necessary.
    thank you,

  25. Christina says:

    We are just making up our first batch of WAP baby formula and, unfortunately, our seven month old baby simply does not like the taste/texture or something — she will not drink it. She is breast milk fed and has been eating solids joyfully for weeks now. Any advice on getting babies to accept the flavor? We have left the cod oil out of this first batch.

  26. Elizabeth says:

    We just started our 6-week old son on this formula last night. So far, so good. If he starts eating and doesn’t finish the bottle, how long can it sit out before we need to toss it?

  27. Kirsty says:

    Absolutely determined to continue with the WAPF formula ,my baby has been suffering with a terrible rash since starting that has got worse and worse. I then made the liver based formula – of which she will not eat.
    I have now gone onto the goats milk formula- omitting the lactose and whey. In 4 days her rash is clearing up considerably.
    But yes she is now constipated.
    Screaming in pain. Her stool if any comes out are hard balls.
    I have given her Lacson unfortunatrly. Hoping this will work. Would her body get used to the goats milk? Or would o have I to give her prunes /digestive tea every day?

    Secknd question- does she have to have the whey, cream and lactoae added? I’m scared her rash comes back.

    I do appreciate all your help with getting and keeping our babies healthy.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      So sorry about the constipation–goat milk tends to do this. Try giving baby a supository. And slowly adding the lactose and whey. Also prune juice and digestive tea. You will just have to try to see what works.

    • Ashleigh says:

      I use 2 tsp of unsulphured blackstrap molasses in the formula and it works great to relieve constipation. It also adds b vitamins, iron, and potassium!

  28. Peter says:

    Wondering for potential substitutes for the lactose? I can’t he my hands on that up here in Canada. Also, having a tough time getting my hands on acerola powder…is that essential? Any replacements for acerola powder?


  29. ashley says:

    My baby was on soy formula for the first 5 and 1/2 months and we started the homemade cows milk formula 2 weeks ago. He had a rash on his face that seemed to clear up before my eyes and he is doing great on it. His eyelashes got longer and fuller too! But, he is only having bms every 2 or 3 days and they are very hard and small. It also seems like he’s not urinating as much as he was. I feel like he needs more water but I would like your advice. I’ve tried adding prune juice with no results. Constipation wasn’t an issue with the soy formula but I had no idea how bad it was for him. Thanks.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      Try giving baby a supository. Also, small amounts of chicken broth each day. Juice of cooked prunes might also help.

  30. Rebecca says:

    I am having trouble getting just cream. I don’t live where they sell whipping cream in the stores and the cows don’t have a lot of cream on their mlik here. Most cream they sell is soured and has additives. Should I add more oils to the formula? If so, how much and which ones?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      Try ordering cream from one of our Wise Traditions advertisers, or contact the nearest chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation

      • Rebecca says:

        Thank you. I live in El Salvador which is why I was wondering if there is a substitute. I may have found some cream, but it can be hard to get. I will look at the website for when I visit the states.

  31. Rebecca says:

    I am having a similar problem as Ashley. My baby was on commercial formula and I switched her to the meat based formula which went well, but she only pooped every other day. It was not hard though. I was able to find a clean source of raw milk so I switched her to the cow’s milk formula and she loves it, but she is now really having trouble pooping and it is hard and dry. She does seem to be peeing a little less too. She doesn’t seem to be having any other adverse reactions to the cow’s milk and actually her cradle cap seems to be flaking off now and she is very energetic and happy when she isn’t trying to poop. She is sleeping better and seems fuller with the cow’s milk than with the meat based formula. Will the constipation be an issue always or should it subside as her body adjusts to the formula? I tried prune juice which she promptly spit up – something she is doing much less now on the cow’s milk. I am having trouble finding the leaves for the digestive tea, but I am giving her small amounts of chicken broth. How long should I give it to her and how long should I expect her to have trouble with constipation? Is there anything else I can do to help her? The poor girl cries when she tries to poop and sometimes struggles and can get nothing out. We did try a suppository and she was able to poop, but it was painful.

  32. Rebecca says:

    I’m sorry for so many question, but I am having trouble doing this in a 3rd world country. I can get oure cream that hss been soured. I can’t sem to get anyone to understand that I want it fresh. Is it okay to use the soured cream in the formula? If not, can I add more coconut oil to make up for the cream?

  33. Rebecca says:

    Okay, last question for now. After the suppository yesterday, my baby has now been pooping more than usual. When she was on commercial formula she pooped once a day. When she was on the meat based formula she pooped every other day and sometimes every day. She has already pooped 3 times today which is so unusual for her. It is not formed, but she also isn’t upset or disturbed by the pooping, so I am guessing it is okay. How much is it normal for babies to poop on the cow’s milk formula? I just don’t know what should be normal or maybe this is still left over from the suppository? I have been giving her a little of the broth formula here and there because she has been peeing less, but that may be from the extreme heat we have been having the last few days. If she is happy and acting normal, is it okay for her to poop a lot on this formula? How long will it take for her digestive system to adjust to the formula?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,

      This sounds great! Looks like the suppository got things going and the broth is probably helping also. Several times a day is fine, in fact this is normal.

  34. tatiana says:

    Help! I need some guidance as to how to make the ‘broth’ for the meat based liver formula. Can you please explain to me how to make it? How much water to chicken ratio? What kind of chicken cut and how much should I boil in the broth? How many cups of broth should I be making with one whole chicken? Can I use commercial organic chicken broth?
    As for the formula, can I use organic chicken livers? I read above somewhere not to use chicken livers until baby is 6 months old, is this correct? Should I be concerned over high levels of vit.A if my baby is on this formula full time? How much of this formula should I be feeding my 3 month old? – the same amount as any other formula? Can I substitute the sucrose/glucose with maple syrup?

    I fed my first baby WAPF goat milk formula, which I learnt to make on your website, with much success! My second baby who is 3 months, did not do well on it. He became very oilly and developed skin allergies, psoriasis and other skin issues in relation to milk proteins. I tweaked the formula, tried different variations, and store bought alternatives with no success. I have been asked to put him on hypoallergenic formula. All the hydrolyzed formulas are full of chemically processed junk. I would really like to make this meat based liver formula for him and see him thrive like my last child. Please help me. Thank you for your support and information.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,
      Do you have a slow cooker? If so, fill it with chicken bones, and heads and feet if possible (or a piece of pigs food if you can’t get heads or feet) Add a little vinegar, fill with water and cook on low overnight.

      Chicken livers are fine–in fact very good.

      You should use lactose if you can, if not just table sugar.

  35. Rebecca says:

    Okay nevermind the comments I made above. My baby just soaked me in throw up. I had taken the yeast out of the recipe to help with the constant pooping, but I am switching back to the meat based formula now. She has been energetic and happy with both formulas, but no throwing up and diarrhea on the broth, so there we go. Thank you for your help.

  36. ambrea says:


    Thanks for such a wonderful and informative website. I have read through all the Q&A on Westen A Price page and also all the comments and replies on this site, but I have a few additional questions I’m really hoping you can answer for me.
    1) Can I mix half formula and half human breast milk in feedings? (I have a month’s worth of breast milk in my deep freeze that I was able to save before my milk supply ended.)
    2) Can the formula be left out at room temperature for a certain amount of time after being warmed? For example breast milk is ok at room temp for 6 hours.
    3) What kind of symptoms would indicate a reaction and how quickly would they appear after starting the formula feeding?
    4) Can I mix the egg/liver/salt combination into the formula? Or do I need to give baby that separate as a solid?

    Thank you so much for a response and for all the support!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      1) Yes, in fact my daughter did this and it worked fine.
      2) I would not leave it out too long, because of the other ingredients. If you are traveling, keep it in a cooler
      3) Just hard to say–crying and colic might show up right away. Diarrhea or constipation could show up quickly. Rashes some time after.
      4) Better to give as a solid, as it might clog the nipple of the bottle.

  37. tatiana says:

    Sally, I don’t know what ‘pigs food’ is? I can get chicken necks and backs, would that do? I have an electric pressure cooker that doubles as a slow cooker. Its great! Would that be apple cider vinegar or plain white vinegar? Can I make beef broth instead? and use beef liver? If so, I do the same but with beef bones? what beef bones would be best? How many lbs. or oz?

    Could you address the high levels of Vitamin A in the meat based liver formula? I am concerned with vit.A toxicity. This formula has 20x the vit.A found in breast milk and is almost 3x the daily allowance for infants! This is VERY concerning and probably the only thing holding me back form making this formula for my baby.

    If I put my baby full time on this formula, how much should I be feeding my 3 month old? – the same amount as any other formula?

    Thanks again for your help and info. -tatiana.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      It is pig’s foot, not food. Chicken necks and backs are fine. Any kind of vinegar. You can make beef broth with various types of beef bones (tail, shank, shin are best), I would not add liver.

  38. Tara says:

    I have been making the homemade formula for my 8 month old twin girls for the past two weeks and the babies are doing great. I am having trouble with the formula separating. Occasionally there are particles in the milk that clog the nipple of the bottle. I am wondering if it is how I am making the whey. I separate the whey but after it has been in the refrigerator it has a white film on top. Could this be the cause of the particles? If I keep the formula cold it isn’t as bad but once I warm it the milk separates really bad. Any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,

      If you make the formula using a blender, it shouldn’t separate for awhile. But if it separates after warming, just shake it well. I don’t think this is caused by the particles in the whey, but you could remove them just in case.

  39. Jenean says:

    My 3 month old baby just started the goats milk formula, he is spitting up and it smells horrible, what can I do differently? Thanks

  40. Brittney says:

    Raw milk is unavailable to me. Can I use Non-homogenized, grass fed batch pasteurized, grade A organic milk?

  41. Rebecca says:

    Hi again, I have a question about broth for the formula. Again, I am in El Salvador, so some things are harder to figure out. I have been purchasing the chickens that people here have running around their houses. They are definitely free range and as close to organic as I can get here. However, the chickens are somewhat small and thin. No matter what I do when I make the broth, it doesn’t gel. I do use leftover bones and skin from store bought chickens (fed with some kind of chicken feed I am sure) sometimes to make stock that I use to flavor my food and makes sauces. This broth almost always gels even if only cooked for a short time. The only difference is that I put sea salt in the store bought chicken broth since that is what I use to flavor food for me. Is it bad the the broth I am using to make the formula for my baby doesn’t gel? Those chickens are better quality as far as chemicals go, but maybe they are malnourished? Any ideas as to why it doesn’t gel? Can you help me to get the best nutrition out the chickens for my baby? Thanks!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,

      Not sure why this is so. Can you get the heads and feet of the running-around chickens? This would help. And definitely add the skin, in fact make the broth from the whole chicken.

      • Rebecca says:

        I have been using almost the whole chicken. I just started adding the heads, so we will see if that helps. I did start saving the bones from one soup to add to the next with the fresh chicken. That might help too. I did get a rooster that was fatter and actually hard to cut up because he was so well put together and that did gel very nicely. Maybe the cartilage isn’t strong enough on the other ones. I didn’t even have the feet for the rooster.

        I do have another question. My baby has been growing very quickly. She had some trouble growing at first due to tongue tie issues and that is why she is on formula at all. I have been doing this homemade formula for about a month and she has suddenly stopped gaining weight so quickly. It might be her time to slow her growth, but I am wondering if I need to add more whey or something to the formula? She actually takes more than one batch in a day. I put the liver in her egg yolk in the AM because it clogs the bottle and so my batch makes about 33-34oz and she will take about 40oz or more and she is also eating an egg yolk in the morning, a few teaspons of chicken, and a little avocado. It seems like she is getting plenty to eat, but it is strange that she doesn’t seem to be gaining a lot of weight. Do you have any insight for me? She is just 6 months old, so maybe she has slowed her growth pattern? She was gaining about 2lbs a month and now has only gained about 1/2 lb.

        • Tim Boyd says:

          From Sally:
          The one thing I would try is adding more cream to the formula, and yes, give her more than 33-34 ounces if she wants it. I am sure her growth rate will pick up again.

          • Rebecca says:

            I am using the meat based formula since she threw up on the cow’s milk and I can’t get enough goat’s milk here. So she hasn’t been getting any cream, but I guess I could try to add that into the formula. I am a little nervous about it because she had so much trouble with the cow’s milk formula. It gave her diarrhea and when I added the cream into the formula, she threw up. It might just have been too much with all of the other cow’s milk ingredients though.

            Could I put extra coconut oil in? Or should I try adding some cream and see what happens? Also, should I continue to put the same amount of probiotic and cod liver oil in each batch even if she takes more than 1 batch in a day. She is doing about a batch and a half or sometimes a little less.

            I do add a little coconut oil to her egg and sometimes to her chicken and I definitely let her eat all she wants. I always have since we had so many issues in the beginning and she really isn’t one to overeat. If she is not hungry, she won’t eat.

            Thank you for all of your help. She has a good doctor, but definitely doesn’t understand nutrition like she should and so I don’t want to ask her these questions!

  42. Trena Morris says:

    We started our grandson on the raw milk formula and he didn’t do well. He ended up being constipated and had projectile vomit. We changed to straight kefir, fermented with kefir grains, and he is doing very well now. His breathing has cleared up and he doesn’t vomit any more. Is very content, alert, and very happy. He is 3 months old now. Our concern is, what supplementation may he be lacking with just kefir as his diet at this point in his life?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,
      Very interesting. Glad he is doing well. Start him on the cod liver oil, you can just give that with an eye dropper or a syringe, no need to mix in. They at 4-5 months old start him on solid food, such as egg yolk and pureed liver.

  43. Sara says:

    Do you know if the protein in the liver is the same (in terms of easy digestion) as the protein in mother’s milk? Thank you

  44. Rachael Shaabani says:

    Can I use Country Life infant probiotic instead of the Natren? What am I looking for exactly in this ingredient? Thanks!

  45. tatiana says:

    Mayday! Mayday! SOS SALLY! I feel totally defeated! I am at my breaking point! I wish I could talk to you! or someone who is as knowledgable as you are in this area… instead of writing here in the comments and waiting desperately for your reply.
    But alas, where to begin. I have 2 under 2. My first child did great on WAPF home made goat milk formula, which I religiously made for her daily following your instructions and videos without any set backs. It was a total success!
    Unfortunately, that hasn’t been the case this time around. After unforeseen health issues which rendered me in the hospital for a prolonged stay 2wks after delivery, I was never able to regain my milk supply. I started my then 2 month old on the WAPF home made goat milk formula, which I was an expert at making by that time. But he did NOT do well on it. He developed psoriasis on his face, chest, elbows, and ankles. Cradle cap. He became colicky and uncomfortable and would wretch his body. He was miserable, and so was I! From there we transitioned to Baby’s Only ‘lactoreleif’, which seemed to soothe him and alleviate some of these symptoms, although they did not go away all together. I started researching and figuring out how to make the broth for the meat based liver formula. Asking questions here on these post, reading others comments, bloggs and websites, watching videos, getting my supplies ready. Suspecting that his symptoms might be due to a milk allergy, I began the meat based formula. But his symptoms have worsened. I then proceeded to eliminate different aspects from the formula: first the whey, then the probiotics, followed by the lactose. I’ve tried different sugar substitutes. I’m down to the most basic: the beef bone broth, the liver, plain table sugar, the olive oil, coconut oil, sunflower oil, cod liver oil, and acerola powder. All my ingredients are organic, grassfed, of high quality.
    What is there to do but continue the elimination of ingredients from this formula until I find the culprit… or not? I am at my last string… this close to calling this whole thing off and going back to Baby’s Only or some other hypoallergenic processed formula (full of crap) as my dr. suggested. I hate seeing my baby like this! As soon as he finishes the bottle, he becomes very itchy. He rubs and scrapes his face, I need to keep him with gloves or swaddled bc he will scratch his face bloody! He wretches and cries, is irritable and will only sleep in my arms (exhausting!) What is a mother to do! I want the best for my child. I am doubting my judgement on making these formulas for him. I’d rather make my own wholesome formula over ANY processed commercial formula, but not with these result. Please advise me from a compassionate and knowledgable place. You are the source. What do you suggest? Please help us.

    • tatiana says:

      Can you offer some suggestions for substitutes for the coconut oil? Is the formula still viable without it? He’s doing slightly better today omitting it from the formula.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally,
      Please phone the office and ask to speak with Liz. She is a registered nurse and helps with baby formula questions. And please wait at least 3 years before your next baby!!

  46. Rebecca says:

    Do you have any tips for fattening up my baby. The doctor is on my case because she only gained 6 oz this month. I think cream made her vomit and butter seems to be making her spit up more than usual. I haven’t completely given up on buttter because she spits up more somedays anyway, but it seems to be that she spits up more the times after she eats it. She is 6 months old and is acting fine and is a healthy weight, but suddenly gaining slowly. I have her on the meat based formula and she is eating egg yolk, banana, avocado, and green beans so far. She usually has an egg yolk, a couple of teaspons of chicken and another teaspon or 2 of avocado or green beans, and some banana here and there. I don’t want the doctor to worry mmy husband into changing the baby’s formula or giving the baby bad food. Any suggestions to help weight gain? Thanks!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      I would just watch it for awhile, and not worry. She will probably pick up weight gain again. Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job. Is she getting cod liver oil?

  47. Sarah says:

    My second son transitioned over to the raw milk formula from breastfeedinh when he was around 4 months since I had to return to work. Other than being constipated at first he took to the formula very well.I have now began the same transition with my third son but I’m taking it much slower then I did with my other son. I started off with two bottles of about 3 ounces each prior to some breastfeeding sessions. This evening my son has come down with a slight cold and a groupie like cough. Has anyones child had the same reaction to the formula?I am Not sure if the cold is associated to a reaction with the formula if it just happens to be a coincidence. Your comments and responses are much appreciated

  48. Britni Monaco says:

    Our baby boy is doing fabulous on the milk formula, but he prefers it cold. Is it ok to continue giving it to him cold?

    Thank you!

  49. Brittney says:

    Made the milk formula and my baby drank it fine. Hours later around bedtime she wouldnt go down like she normally does and was screaming and crying. Her stomach was gurgling like crazy and she was farting A LOT! She started screaming and crying cries ive never heard her do before. They sounded like she was in so much pain. Would could of caused all the gas?

  50. erika says:

    I’m having a problem with the formula getting super thick once it is chilled. Once the bottle is warm, it is fine, so that’s not the issue. But transferring from the pitcher into the bottle is nearly impossible. A spoon would be easier. It’s the consistency of yogurt. I’m following the recipe precisely and not substituting any ingredients. What is causing this?

    • Kelley says:

      I am having the same problem, no one responded to you. Did you ever figure this out????

      • Cassandra says:

        It does get thick, but certainly shouldn’t be yogurt. Make sure you blend it enough after its made and give it a really good shake before putting it into bottles. Unless you have glass bottles and then just put formula into those and shake before warming and after warming.

  51. Reanne says:

    Hi There, I’m due to have my 4th baby soon and have suffered low milk supply with all my children. My issue is 2/3 have been lactose intolerant. which of your formulas would u recommend for lactose intolerance?. Thankyou

  52. Gina says:

    Hi my son is 5 months old and has never taken to the breast so I pump for him, but my milk supply has always been too low. We have had to have him on formula and the Baby’s Only really constipates him so we switched to Enfamil Reguline..We switched him back to Baby’s Only and added prebiotics. I don’t want to continue giving him commercial formula though as he has developed a rash and the Baby’s Only still constipates him really bad even with the prebiotics. We tried this WAPF formula but the best milk I can get is Strauss organic milk here, but it is pasteurized. Can I use this as there is no raw milk available? And he is also still really constipated, will this normalize?

  53. Marisa Gomez says:

    My 6 month old has been on this formula for about 2 weeks now and loving it, but I am concerned that he may not be eating enough. He used to eat about 40 oz of breastmilk a day. How much of this formula would you say is good for a baby at this age? I haven’t asked my pediatrician because I do not think he will be on board with the homemade formula.

  54. Elizabeth says:

    Our baby has been spitting up for awhile on the cow’s milk formula, and I just reread that you recommend taking out the nutritional yeast to see if that helps. Our pediatrician’s office suggested decreasing the lactose. Thoughts?

  55. Lizzy says:

    Can you substitute brown rice syrup for lactose? I have infant safe brown rice syrup, also is the cod liver oil absolutely imperative?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally: NO, do not use brown rice syrup. The lactose is necessary for neurological development. The cod liver oil is very important.

  56. Gina says:

    Hi I have heard that organic unsulphured blackstrap molasses is good to add to this formula, is that ok and if so, would it replace the lactose in this formula or be in addition to, and what amount would be good?

  57. Gina says:

    Hi, I was reading the comparison chart again for the breastmilk vs cow’s milk formula and I noticed that some of the vitamin levels are 5 times what is recommended for infants. For instance the fat soluble vitamins like vitamin A are extremely high and I just want to make sure these levels are safe and not toxic. The B vitamins are much higher as well, is there a reason for this disparity?

  58. Kati says:

    Our twins have been on the Raw Cow’s Milk formula and we switched to the Goat Milk Formula because they were constipated. They have been doing better but was wondering if there was anything we can use besides the Raw Chicken Liver for the B-12? We know they need the Iron and want to make sure we are giving them what they need.

  59. Kari says:

    Is it safe to combine mothers breast milk with the milk formula?

  60. Vivi Vanda says:

    Is it ok if I ommit acerola powder, n cod liver oil, since both are not available in my country

  61. Lauren Holloway says:

    I made the formula for the first time today and it has almost become a gel like consistency in the fridge. Did I use the wrong gelatin maybe? I used Great Lakes Gelatin in the red can.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      No, you probably didn’t do anything wrong. It will often thicken in the fridge but should be OK when warmed up and stirred or shaken.

      • Kelley says:

        What causes this??? If it is yogurt like consistency I am unable to even shake it or pour it into a bottle! I made this for a year with my son and it never happened. Now it has happened twice with my daughter. I contacted Radiant Life because I thought the Gelatin could have gotten too “hot” during shipping. However they were adamant that it would not change or alter the product. I still doubt that.

  62. amelia says:

    my 7 week old has just tested positive for galactosemia and needs to switch from breastmilk to a totally dairy-free diet. Dr’s recommended soy formula, but I would much prefer to make my own. I am looking at the meat-based formula, but unsure if there is a viable substitute to the small amount of lactose…what do you recommend?

  63. Steven says:

    Two quick questions:

    1. The nutrition chart does’t mention the amount of vitamin K in the formulas. Could you add this info?
    2. Are these formulas safe to use from day 1 of a child’s birth, or do we need to wait before introducing?


  64. steve says:

    I am wanting to move our prem baby across to the raw milk formula but am having some difficulty. We are based in Cape Town, South Africa and have not been able to find lactose or acerola powder. At what sort of shop would I find the lactose – I have tried the pharmacy, health store and regular store and nobody seems to know what it is or where I can get it. Could it be labeled sometime else or is there anything that I could use instead. The Acerola powder is out of stock everywhere and nobody knows when it will be back. Are there alternatives such as camu camu? Finally the powdered gelatine is preserved with sulphur dioxide – is that ok or do I need to look for an alternative. Thanks

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:

      I would suggest trying to get Radiant Life to send the whole kit. Meanwhile, just make the formula without the ingredients you can’t get. Can you get raw milk? That is the most important thing.

  65. Michelle says:

    Ove made my first batch of milk based formula – since the formula has been in the fridge it looks like jello – is this from the Gelatine or have I done something wrong?


    • Tim Boyd says:

      It probably is from the gelatin and I don’t think you did anything wrong. That happens commonly. You can warm it up a little to turn it liquid again.

  66. Maggie says:

    Hi I just started making my own breast milk. I wanted to know the rules for storing my homemade milk. How long does the milk “just made” last? And how long after I put it in the refrigerator should I put it in the freezer? Also can I store the milk in madela milk bags?thank you for your time.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally:
      It will keep in the fridge for several days and in the frreezer for a long time. I don’t know what madela bags are.

  67. Jenny says:

    My 5 month old has had chronic eczema (~80% of her body) – thick/red itching and stomach issues. I have been thru every commercial formula on the market (made the problems progressively worse). Suspect it’s a protein allergy. Tried the goats milk formula first to see if it was any better than canned, and her eczema got worse and then progressed into chronic diarrhea. I switched to the liver formula – but without the whey/lactose. We are on day 4 of that, and still both symptoms seem to be worsening. I’m leaving out the coconut oil today to see if that can be causing sensitivity, though I can’t imagine a reaction that severe. Anyone with experience with severe diarrhea on these formulas? Not sure if there is a common culprit in the list I should be avoiding. I’m going to take her to the doctor, but I’m sure they’ll insist she go on one of the chemical-laden products that she’s already tried/rejected – or be horrified that I’m trying these in the first place. I’m at my wits end seeing her in so much distress.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,

      For the liver formula, it is ESSENTIAL to include the coconut oil, or the baby will indeed get diarrhea. I would suggest trying the cows milk formula with RAW milk, of course. Try it a few days to see what happens. For the eczema, try putting on caladril, to control the itching.

    • Casie says:

      Hi, did you ever get this issue resolved? I’m having the same issues with my 5 month old. I’m wondering if she has a dairy allergy. Thank you!

  68. Debra Seger says:

    This is a Question.

    My daughter just spent over $200+ for all the ingredients for the homemade formula.
    It is imperative that her 3 week old baby boy is supplemented with an alternative “formula”
    since the mother’s milk supply is not adequate.

    We have since made 2 batches of the formula since the first batch was thick and gunky.
    We thought maybe we had done something wrong when making the first batch.
    No matter how much we warmed and mixed the formula it was still thick and gunky and would
    not go through the bottle nipple. Her son was very hungry and cried and cried while she was
    trying to feed him the formula since he could not suck it out through the nipple.

    I am hoping for a quick response for a solution to this problem. Her son cannot afford to lose weight right now while we try and figure out what to do. (We are feeding him some of the formula through a small syringe right now, but obviously that would be a poor long term solution.

    Is there anyone who has made this formula Without the problem we are having??

    There is absolutely nothing brought up about this problem and/or any solutions in the recipe instructions or on the video.

    Thank you,
    Very frustrated Mama and Grama.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,

      First question, what kind of whey are you using? It should be homemade whey from separated yoghurt or kefir, not cheese whey, which will make the formula curdle.

      What kind of milk are you using?

      For a stop gap measure, just use the raw milk, dilute with a little water and add the lactose. This will work while we are trying to solve the problem.

  69. Shaunna says:

    My 10 month old has been on Alimentum formula and our new pediatrician just recommended the goat milk formula to me. My daughter does not seem to like the taste and is refusing her bottle. I tried to start out slowly: half the bottle of goat milk formula with half a bottle of her old formula. She refused the bottle. I decided to really try to slow down the introduction and only included one ounce of goat milk formula to 6 ounces of her Alimentum formula. I really want my daughter to like and do well with this goat milk formula recipe. Do you have any suggestions for how to transfer her over if she does not like the taste? Your recipe is so nutritionally superior to commercial allergenic formula which I’m sure is why our pediatrician suggested it. Any information you could provide me with would be greatly appreciated.

  70. Gay l davis says:

    My infant is intolerant to whey. Is there something i can substitute for the whey? What is she missing if the whey is left out, i.e needed protein, iron, zinc?

  71. Serenity says:

    This website is a blessing. I have a question concerning my 14 month old daughter. I would like her weaned off breast milk by 24 months. What should I give her instead? It seems as if the formula is meant for infants. If I should just give her raw milk, will that be enough to “fatten” her up? She’s very “skinny”.
    Thanks in advance.

  72. Jess says:

    We are having to transition over to formula from breastmilk (sadly). Our baby was 10.5 lbs when born. He wasn’t a “fat” baby, just tall and solid with the WAP diet during pregnancy and a late eviction notice.lol. Typical formula guides I have seen suggest about 2.5 oz of formula to each lb of body weight offered every three to four hours. Is this the same rule of thumb we should use for the WAP formula as well? Our baby is 3 and half months currently and weighs 18 lbs. Again, he isn’t “fat” looking at all, perhaps on the skinny side if anything, he is very tall and looks older than he is.

  73. Chad says:

    Would Moose or Caribou liver be an appropriate substitute for the beef or chicken liver formula? Living in Alaska it is much easier to acquire good wild liver than it would be to get organic beef liver.

  74. christen nelson says:


    How can this formula be transported? For instance, when out for the day – should it remain cold (as in take it in a cooler with an ice pack)? How long can it be kept in a “cool state” and remain good? Thank you!

    • Alona says:

      So, what we do is put it in the bottles and put it in a lunch box with an ice pack on each side. Then to heat we have a Tommee Tippee bottle warmer which is basically a thermos (which would’ve been cheaper). We also now have an electric kettle that we carry along when traveling and staying in hotels with no stove. (And we use it at home too since my husband almost burned the house down when he forgot about the kettle on the stove).

  75. Katy says:

    My almost 9 month old seems to be losing interest in drinking from her bottle. She is being fed 4, 8-oz bottles of the WAPF per day along with some puréed food. Could it be that she is beginning to wean from bottle feeding? Any idea how to deal with this while still giving her the formula? Thanks!

    • Tim Boyd says:

      From Sally:
      Yes, at 9 months, she should be getting a lot of solid food–especially egg yolks and pureed liver. And if she is thriving and healthy, you can switch to just raw milk in her bottles.

    • Alona says:

      She might only need 3 a day since she’s eating more and more people food. However, it doesn’t really need to be pureed. Try her on soft foods and work from there. I like to give the formula as long as possible even like a milk shake since it has so many nutrients. Also, avoid juice. She doesn’t need juice at all and if you’re going to give it at least give her homemade juice from fruits and veggies (add spinach! it barely tastes like anything but is so healthy).

  76. Krystal Wieldt says:

    Any tips on how I can get the bone broth formula to fit through my sns? It won’t even go through a slow flow nipple, this makes lactation options difficult, but it is also helping my babies eczema to go away.

  77. Tammy says:

    I will use the raw cow milk formula. Do we order extra raw milk and make our own cream or do they sale cream in grocery store? What brand of cream do you recommend?

    • Tim Boyd says:

      The best possible choice is raw cream if you can do it. If that’s not possible, find the least processed cream (not homogenized) with no extra ingredients (carageenan, etc) in the store.

    • Alona says:

      I go to the co-op for cream. You could also try a local farm.

  78. Jan says:

    My Dr had not allowed me to give my baby cows milk until 1years old. By all the responses to this formula I guess it’s safe to give cows milk from day 1. Why then are Drs not allowing it sooner?

    • Alona says:

      Cows milk alone is not sufficient for babies which is why they say not to give it. i.e. if you give a breast fed baby cows milk before one year old they will not drink as much breast milk and will therefore become deficient in many nutrients. That’s why we need to add all the other ingredients.

  79. jennifer says:

    Where do I find good quality cream? Can I just use the cream that separates from the raw cow milk?

    • Alona says:

      I get grass fed cream at the co-op. I drive an hour into the city to get this (so worth it though). You could also try local farm. You want to avoid ultra-pasteurized.

  80. Alona says:

    I thought this might help for people having trouble with the BOTTLE NIPPLE CLOGGING. (I put some things in caps for people who are skimming through – we have babies; no one has time to read).

    We were always having this issue. It looked like small, teeny, tiny crystals were getting stuck in the nipple hole and we’d squeeze it out only for it to clog again a few sucks later. Baby and person feeding got very annoyed. I realized we were over heating the gelatin and it was becoming sort of crystallized by the time we got it to the bottle. We heated on medium as directed but we have pots that are designed to cook at a higher temperature (high quality cookware). I imagine other people on here who care about the quality of food for their families are, like me, avoiding stuff like Teflon and if you’ve switched (which I think you should if you haven’t) then you may not be thinking about lowering the heat when dissolving the gelatin. It’s better to take a longer time to dissolve it than deal with the bottle clogging. We have an electric stove (not glass top) and have to set it to 3.5 with the good pots but closer to 4-5 with the more common cookware. Also, not over cooking the gelatin helps with GAS, SPITTING UP, and keeps baby from acting STILL HUNGRY (feels full longer and faster).

  81. Victoria says:

    Hi, I was hoping someone could help, my baby is 4.5 months old and we started him on the raw Goats milk formula 3 days ago, I was transitioning him over form organic baby formula. He’s only had two batches of the formula and today has had terrible diahrrea, every nappy it looks like green curds and sticky gelatin? I have had to put him back on the organic formula while I wait for more goats milk tomorrow, but he is doing so much diahorrea I’m terrified to put him back on the raw goat formula. I was very vigilant at keeping everything clean and tasting all his bottles to make sure they tasted good. I followed the recepie to the letter. Has anyone else had this? Could it be one of the ingredients? Or an intolerance? He was doing ok on the organic baby formula, having one bowl movement a day but it was very dark green. In the last 12 hours he’s had 13 bowl movements… I don’t know what to do. Please help.

    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally,
      Not sure what to recommend. Perhaps remove the yeast and the gelatin and see how you do And have you tried the cows milk formula?

      • Victoria says:

        We live in Australia and can’t get raw cows milk as it is illegal, but we can get raw goats milk. Turns out it was campylorbactor, I don’t know what I did wrong, I was very clean, and tested every batch. The liver was frozen for a month.He is still recovering and I’m terrified I have now done more harm than good. A friend of mine has been using the exact same milk formula ( from the same goat milk suppliers) for her baby for two years and has never had a problem. Maybe we just had very bad luck? I now don’t know what to do for him, he is back on organic baby formula with probiotics as my husband and I are pretty scared to try anything else, but I now don’t know what to do for his gut. Seems I have made a bad situation worse. I was thinking of trying him on the bone broth formula when his gut seems to be functioning better? Thank you.

  82. Victoria says:

    PLEASE PLEASE be careful with this formula, my 4.5 month old baby has been in hospital with Campylobactor after having the goats milk version, – it is very unfortunate I know, I was very careful, clean and followed the recepie to the letter. It has been a terrifying experience, the milk was from a reputable source, and the liver frozen for a month. Maybe we have just had very bad luck but please be careful .

  83. Paul says:

    I tried the liver based formula because our pediatrician told us that our son who was born very early (3 months early) has high risk of developing anaemia. The corrected age of our son is 1 week old now and he likes the liver based formula but he started to be constipated.
    I still produce breastmilk, but I know breastmilk is low in iron, which is OK for full term babies but not so for premature babies who did not receive enough iron during the 3rd trimester.

    My question is, can I blend small amount of cooked liver into the expressed breast milk to increase the iron level?

    We really want to avoid conventional iron supplements which are extremely constipating.


    • Tim Boyd says:

      Reply from Sally
      Yes, you can add a little liver to your breast milk, that would be a good idea. And you, mom, should be eating a lot of iron-rich food, especially liver. The baby will absorb 100% of the iron from your breastmilk.

  84. Katy says:

    There seem to be differing opinions (among the Yahoo group for parents) on what age to transition from raw milk formula to straight raw milk. Our daughter is 12 months old, 95th percentile for weight, no developmental issues, and we have started to give her straight milk, although still adding a bit of whey and gelatin during the transition to help digestion. But I’m hearing people say to wait until she is 2 to transition her because of the continued brain development? Is there any negative to transitioning her now? (i.e. any of the formula ingredients that might still benefit her to keep her on it)? I feel like we need to transition her at some point in time?
    Thanks for your advice.

  85. Bea says:

    For those of us without the resources to make our own formula. Do you still recommend Babys only for infants? There have been some controversies over the nutrient levels being acceptable for those under 1.

    Are there any premade goat milk “formulas” you recommend? For example Nannycare, Holle, or Sammy’s Milk?)

  86. Leah says:

    Is it essential to add the lactose? Unfortunately the NOW lactose is the only brand I can find, and the company they source it from (Foremost) does not make any GMO statements…which means it is GMO. I would like to omit this. My baby is now 11 months. Thoughts?

  87. Hannah says:

    I’m only producing 30 ml of milk so I’ve had to supplement. I’ve put my baby on the cows milk formula and I finally found some but I had him on organic pasturized non homogonized milk. I hope that is ok. He has a rash all around his mouth and I don’t know the cause. Has anyone else had this experience with their baby and what was he reacting to?

  88. Kate says:

    I’m looking to figure out when to transition my son off of the formula. He is 20 months old and thriving on regular foods. We love the nutrition he gets from the formula, but want to know when it’s time to wean. Please advise.

  89. Sarah says:

    I breastfeed my 4 month old but dont produce enough milk. Is it okay to give her plain ole raw milk as well as my breastmilk? Just wondering why infants cant just have the raw milk.

    • Weston A Price Foundation says:

      Per Sally Fallon:
      After about 8 months you can do that. . . in the early months if you are still breastfeeding, it should at least be thinned with whey or water, and the lactose added.

  90. Meagan says:

    Hi, my son is allergic to dairy so I am making him the liver based version of the formula as a supplement to my own breastmilk, since I have a low supply of breastmilk. Because of his dairy allergy, I am on a dairy-free diet myself. My question involves the whey in the formula. I’m making homemade whey from raw cow’s milk, which also makes cream cheese as a biproduct. So my question is, can I eat the cottage cheese or does that have too much casein in it, and would there be a way to add gelatin or something to the cottage cheese to make it less likely to affect my breastmilk and upset his tummy? (Also, would gelatin in cottage cheese ruin the taste of it?) Thanks so much for your help!!!

  91. Suzie says:

    I am looking to supplement my lack of pumping abilities while I’m at work with a homemade recipe such as this one. My daughter is 13 mos and is intolerant to dairy. We also do not have raw milk available in Canada, so I have not tried it with her. (I wish I could!) Since she is still breastfed at least 2x a day and is eating a healthy diet of solid foods… Is it possible that I don’t need to supplement with all the added nutrients? (ie: cod liver oil, probiotics…) Could I just use a coconut milk, collagen and maple blend for her bottle while I’m away? I’m also wondering if the coconut milk option might also be hard for her to digest as it also contains such large protein molecules?
    Would love to hear any thoughts or suggestions. Thank you!

    • Weston A Price Foundation says:

      Per Sally Fallon:
      At thirteen months, she should be getting solid food, along with your breastmilk–egg yolk, pureed liver, pureed meat, etc. She does not need formula, although I would try giving her whole raw milk. See The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care.

  92. Brooke Haynes says:

    Hi! I see the link to my question, but I can’t find the answer. When do we switch from the formula to plain raw milk? Should this be gradual?

  93. Nancy says:

    Can a batch of baby’s formula be frozen until needed when using as a breast milk supplement.

  94. Jenny says:

    Hey there, my daughter is now 12 months! We have been using Holle soy free cow based milk formula for her since she was 2 months old.

    I’ve been debating on whether to switch her over to pasteurized grass fed milk or if it’s safe to switch her over to raw milk?

    Can I give her pasteurized grass fed milk when I run out of raw milk, since it’s quite a drive to get it and if I run out of it I can head to an organic store for the grass fed milk? Just in case

  95. Mark Rocka says:

    We just brought home our preemie. He’s currently at 37 weeks gestation. My wife is not producing enough to keep him satisfied, so we’re looking at options for supplementing. Are there any ingredients in any of these formulas that might be contraindicated for a preemie?

    Thanks for everything! We’re enjoying your NT for babies book.

  96. Amanda says:

    My child is eight months old and has recently started eating solids in addition to the formula. How long should I continue feeding him the formula? when we do transition off of it should I continue to give him raw milk?

  97. Tashina says:

    How many calories is the raw cows milk formula per an oz ?

  98. Adriana says:

    Are you able to switch raw milk from a different farm without an upset or reaction. Should you switch right away or over a few days. Is it a big deal to use milk from a different farm/cows after baby is used to one farm. Also has anyone sought out tested A/2 A/2 milk for formula and have you seen a difference.
    Thank you!

  99. Aislinn belo says:

    Hi im not sure about the source of my raw milk. I need whey for the liver based formula. Will turning the raw milk into yogurt effectively kill the bad bacteria in raw milk? Pressuming i will not boil the raw milk in the process of turning it into yogurt. i plsn to just get tge whey out when it has turned to yogurt. My raw milk might have cone from confined cows, im not sure. I have tried souring it by leaving it on the counter, it has worked but im still afraid to try it coz im mot sure of the source

  100. Melissa says:

    Can nutritional yeast in the formula be causing constipation? I was making the raw cows milk formula without nutritional yeast because I didn’t have any on hand and now that I’ve added it he’s constipated… he went from having one bowel movement a day to one every three days… and on top of that I have to help him poop (by pushing his legs towards his belly)

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