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Written by Tim Boyd   
Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:08

Interview with Dr. Ray Peat
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http://eluv.podbean.com/2008/10/10/eluv-live-interview-with-dr-ray-peat/

If you have read Eat Fat, Lose Fat, or Wise Traditions journals and website, you know coconut oil is pretty amazing stuff. There are a few other people out there who think so too. Dr. Ray Peat is one of them. Early on in this interview he states that saturated fat is good fat—not something you hear every day, except from us. From there, he focuses in on coconut oil and details some of the benefits, which include regulating metabolism and helping to keep weight under control, controlling estrogen, helping the thyroid issues and even preventing or reducing sunburn damage.

While he gives out some good and intriguing information, one must be careful when listening to him. He mentions that there is no such thing as essential fatty acids. Well, yes there are. Dr. Mary Enig tried to straighten out his confusion on this subject in our Spring 2005 Wise Traditions, but apparently he is still confused. He also says we wouldn’t need vitamin E if we didn’t eat any polyunsaturated fats. Dr. Enig points out that there is some polyunsaturated fat in all food. So even if that is true, it is kind of like saying, “If pigs could fly, [fill in the blank].” If pigs could fly, I would give him a thumbs up for saying things like that. THUMBS DOWN.

 

This article appeared in Wise Traditions in Food, Farming and the Healing Arts, the quarterly magazine of the Weston A. Price Foundation, Winter 2009.

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Ray peat knows his stuff
written by Metabolic Giant, Mar 08 2014
Whether or not EFAs are truly essential or not is a moot point because the only way they can be completely avoided is by having good prepared in a scientific lab. What Ray is stating is that if one could avoid PUFA completely they would be better off because the body can make omega 9 it just almost never has to. The benefits gained by efa can be gained even by someone eating as little as possible. Ray sees toxins in all food but he still eats oysters and shell fish occasionally which have omega 3 in them. He never says what to eat or not eat, he talks more about the chemistry of good than anything. He recommends a carrot salad, a diet rich in dairy (for the calcium and sugar) and orange juice and fruit.

I've listened to interviews where he talks about reading literature on radiation in 1945 so he was studying academically then which would put his age at somewhere around 18-25 in 1945, by all accounts he looks pretty good for being in his late 80s and his mind is as sharp as mine is.
Nuh uh!
written by Nate, Dec 18 2013
There is too such a thing as essential fatty acids--is what you sound like. If you're trying to disprove someone in the scientific community, you must cite evidence as does Dr Peat, you can't just say 'nuh uh.'
EFAs and Dr Enig Nit Picking
written by Martin, Apr 04 2013
He mentions that there is no such thing as essential fatty acids


Well, no there isn't. Our body can make its own omega 9 as required to cover any unsaturated fat needs. I as yet have never seen any research that shows Linlenic or linoleic acids are "Essential" for any function.

Dr. Enig points out that there is some polyunsaturated fat in all food


So what. As stated we get it in foods unavoidably so we need vitamin E as Dr Peat says. That "Nit picking" doesn't make any sense at all. Dr Peat was clearly speaking hypothetically.

Dr Enig clearly doesn't understand Dr Peat.

RP is a genius!
written by nwo2012, Sep 02 2012
Im another here in defence of Peat's genius. My whole family have improved drastically after adopting Peat's recommendations. Previously followed much of the WAPF and that did zero for hypothyroid symptoms. Peat's metods, on the other hand, worked like magic. I highly recommend to all WAPFers to check out Peat's ideas. They do actually work. Still WAPF is still better than mainstream BS, dont get me wrong.
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written by Catherine Betts, Aug 01 2012
I greatly appreciate everyone's comments as I am a new believer in Ray Peat. Having struggled with Hashimotos and Celiacs for 8 years at only 28 years old it is amazing to come across someone who truly understands my condition. Thanks Dr. Ray Peat
doctor of naturopathy
written by Marian Porter, Jun 20 2012
I totally agree with the comments previously made. That Dr. Peat would be deemed "confused" and that anyone would presume to "straighten him out" is not only disrespectful but presumptuously ludicrous. I am a HUGE fan of Dr. Peat and dismiss completely this review by a computer engineer who worked for the defense industry for 20 years. Dr. Peat spent over 20 years researching what he talks about. He is no joke. This review make him appear to be a joke to be made fun of. I have no respect for Enid for doing this. It was without merit. Shame on the Foundation !
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written by dirin, Apr 26 2012
Just read the about the reviewer, and you can deem this review laughable at best.
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written by Garden Girl, Apr 13 2012
WAPF review peat
I thought this was a very unprofessional review. Dr. Peat does not recommend no polyunsaturated fats. I think he recognizes that it exists in a in foods, some high and some low in it. He himself stated his diet to be about 2% polyunsaturated fat. He does correctly state the toxicity of seed and fish oils. Dr. Enig's book has a paragraph in one chapter on the carcinogenicity of polyunsaturated fats, then in the next chapter she is recommending a recipe made with them. Hmm?
Having worked in the area of fertility for over 15 years, giving diet and lifestyle counseling to people all over the country, I have seen the damage excess polyunsaturated fats can do and the great advantage to health of the saturated fats and their nutrients. I was happy to find WAPF supported this view on saturated fats and pastured animals, but puzzled on all the crispy nuts, unrefined vegetable oils, pork fat and fish oil. I believe Dr. Enig's stand, is a great discredit to her and to the WAPF. In fact I tried the HV fermented cod liver oil for almost 9 months, 1/2 tsp daily along with other WAPF recommendations, only to find that I developed allergies, inflammation, high blood pressure, muscle pain, estrogenic and neurological symptoms. Scary. When I discontinued, all the symptoms quickly went away. I tried it again for a day, only to have them begin to return. Dr. Peat is a godsend.
I have a friend who took 3 Tbs a day of the CLO, on recommendation of Sally Fallon for her fertility issues, only to have her fertility completely stop within a couple weeks. This friend doesn't see the relationship to the CLO and only continues to take larger amounts, thinking she just must need more. Sad. Her health is deteriorating, and she looks so much older than her age. Commented one day on drinking 'half a bottle', oh dear. She follows everything WAPF and her fertility has never returned, despite still being young, and she's now overweight. How many other's fertility and health have been affected? When subfertile women follow a Peat recommended diet, I find their fertility returns in a few weeks, always. I don't see this consistency with the WAPF diet in my experience.
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written by Ann Blachly, Feb 05 2012
Count me in as one who easily recognized the brilliance of Dr. Peat's work. I bought Dr. Lee's Menopause book, found the reference for Dr. Peat and called Dr. Peat (went to the source) to recover my health....more than once as I navigated through menopause and for improved health in general.
I too believe the 'essential fatty acids' proposed by Enig are just a bunch of hooey. The essential fatty acids we need are the fats that we eat in animals.
However, when animals are fed foods not natural to them, it makes their fat high (unbalanced) in polyunsaturated fats. Unhealthy for them, unhealthy for us if we are that animal. And unhealthy for us if we eat the fat of such a denatured food animal. Common sense.
Embarrassed...
written by Eric Lepine, Dec 23 2011
I am a Chapter leader for the WAPF, and I have to say I am utterly embarrassed by this "review" of Dr. Peat's work. I share the same sentiment as all the other people who have posted here namely, that an open-mind and open communication between researchers are the best route towards a better understanding of human nutrition and the human body. Anyone who thinks they "know everything" is just kidding themselves... Peat's work has so much to offer, and he does it with a large dose of humility, and without any condescendance... I would hope that the WAPF would also hold itself to the same standard...
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written by Karen, Nov 15 2011
Both weston price and ray peat's work has helped me a lot with my health. They are very similar: milk, broth, coconut oil, pastured eggs, liver but yes there are differences too. To use Joseph Campbell's quote about religion and apply it here: "The old-time religion belongs to another age, another people, another set of human values, another universe. By going back you throw yourself out of sync with history." I feel that way about Weston Price's work a little, studying all those cultures and natives a long time ago, that didn't have a 1/4 of the stresses,toxins and pollution we do now. So Peat's work is more in terms of the modern world of estrogen dominance and rampant thyroid problems. Peat's work can't be perfect, it will be improved upon and same with Enig, that's just life. There should be more respect on both sides. "Dr. Mary Enig tried to straighten out his confusion on this subject in our Spring 2005 Wise Traditions, but apparently he is still confused." is a condescending statement to say in regards to Peat who definitely is a genius and likewise I have defended Enig who has made some great contributions herself. I wish they could just talk on the phone and see where the misunderstanding is without competition or attachment or disrespect. One more point: Peat looking ten years younger is not something that can be largely considered b/c my grandmother, who had diabetes and a diet of artificial sweeteners and junk food, looked fifteen years younger than her age.
Still debating Ray Peat' credibility, really??!??
written by Berlin, Jul 20 2011
I am one of the people - and I am sure we are many - who can say that reading Dr. Peat's articles, books and newsletters saved my life. John R. Lee described that when he first met Peat (They were both giving speeches at a University.) he introduced Lee and all the other doctors in the audience to progesterone. Lee says most doctors’ research involves 5, maybe 7 studies. From those they draw their conclusions and give speeches or publish their observations. When Ray Peat talked about progesterone that day he had a list of 150 references. One Hundred and Fifty.
Lee asked him for the list after the speech and checked every study carefully during the following weeks. ‘They all worked out’, he writes. ‘I had been studying and practicing medicine for many years – but never in the medical world had I experienced anything like this.’ Lee followed Peat’s lead … and is now called a pioneer of natural progesterone treatment. Yet he was neither the first nor was he much of a scientist. Lee was a doctor. He was open minded, tried something new – and succeeded. Ray Peat could have taught him why and so much more because he didn’t stop there.
Ray Peat never stopped being a scientist. PUFAs, calcium, serotonin, iron, salt, water, aspirin, cascara, progesterone, thyroid, … he is not a specialist in the sense that he knows all about the thymus gland but nothing about the bones. Ray Peat understands mind and body as one and every cell as important. He doesn’t just give advice on thyroid problems. He is not just a nutritionist. He knows about art and economy, history and physics, biology and geography. We are complex beings in a complex world and it takes a complex mind to understand complexity.
Read Peat’s articles and you’ll see that they build a universe of knowledge. The pieces of information interlock and give you a whole picture of the human being and the world we are part of. Best case: you’ll be fascinated and educated, worst case: you just do what he suggests and live a longer and healthier live. I should know. But don’t believe him - check his references. There’ll always be more than you can read. The truly exceptional thing is that HE seems to know every study that was published during the last 100 years by heart.
Are you really still debating whether he’s a genius or not? Really? 50 years of studies and being right are on his side. He is not trying to sell anything. All he’s doing is providing information. If you use it, it’ll be to you benefit. If you don’t – your loss.
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too bad
written by MCA, Feb 02 2011
This site had gone down in quality for a few years, I noticed this when I saw the homeopathy articles and some "spiritual" gobbledeegocks writings. Homeopathy is quack science, any kid in sixth grade who just learned about Avogadro's number can understand that.
This "review" and the other reply about Peat's views on EFA are another low value writing which drag down the average value of the WAP site and philosophy and make someone to doubt the credibility of the whole ...
Poor argument
written by Chris, Oct 30 2010
"Well, yes they are!" is not an argument. You'll have to counter Rays extensive knowledge of biochemistry to make this article less of a joke. To prove that they are not essential, all you have to do is feel what happens when you are able to make significant adaptive changes through intermittent fasting. No EFA's required.
FRIEND OF Dr. Peat
written by Ed Reich, Oct 26 2010
Greetings,

I am a friend and associate of Dr. Peat. In fact, I am staying at his Mexican home right now.

If you read the articles on Omega 3 and 6 polyunaturated oils,
carefully, on Dr. Peat's website (raypeat.com), I believe taht you will come to the conclusion that the N-3 and N-6 lipids are dangerous. And the Omega 3s are more dangerous that the Omega 6s. Ray Peat is in great health, mentally and physically, and at 74, he looks about 62! The marketing teams of the supplement industry are hard at work deceiving the public about some of
the products they proffer. The guy, above, in particular, needs to bone up on Dr. Peat's great ideas!
what an absurd 'review'
written by andrew, Jul 06 2010
Phrases like 'straighten out' and 'still confused' insult Peat's extensive knowledge. He often calls some fats the 'so called essential fatty acids.' Believing that we don't need to consume essential fatty acids, or having a differing opinion, does not make someone 'confused.' You're trying to say that Peat is wrong because Mary Enig says so. Mary Enig's 'scientific' reasoning goes something like this: 'Peat is wrong because I say he's wrong.' Why don't you actually try to discuss the issue. Cite studies that you think demonstrate the necessity of the so called essential fatty acids, or try to point out what you believe to be flaws in his reasoning. You can read more at laproline.blogspot.com.
Think for yourself
written by Matt Stone, Mar 08 2010
Peat is not a bumbling idiot. He too knows that polyunsaturated fats are pervasive. But there are foods that contain tiny traces of polyunsaturated fats, which Peat recommends wholeheartedly, and there are foods with extremely high amounts of polyunsaturated fats, such as those recommended by the Weston A. Price Foundation, such as crispy nuts, lard, goose and duck fat, and poultry skin.


On a WAPF-sytle diet I had many health problems, and I estimate my PUFA intake to have been around 20 grams per day. Since cutting that back to 3 grams per day, my health has improved dramatically.

The longer Enig stays entrentched in the belief that nuts, seeds, cod liver oil, and poultry and pork fat are healthy for Americans, who already have 8 times the tissue concentration of PUFA's that can be considered healthy, the longer they delay what could easily be the most significant thing a person can do to improve their health... Eat 1% of their dietary calories from PUFA's as advised by the world's leading PUFA expert, Dr. William Lands.

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