Is sugar the main culprit for dental decay and other issues? Dentist Marc DiNola suggests that a host of dental problems could be caused by nutritional deficiencies. He offers advice for what foods to eat to rectify the situation — including Gouda cheese, organ meats, and fat from pastured animals. He explains how foods rich in vitamin K can keep teeth strong with the proper fluid flow.
Marc also explains the concept of meridians — connections between our teeth and particular organs and blood supply–and he offers this as one reason he is not a proponent of root canals, since the dead teeth affect the energy flow to other parts of the body.
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Avoid Dental Problems With Diet
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For a long time, we thought sugar was the sole cause of our dental problems, but nutritional deficiencies can lead to a host of issues. Beyond avoiding sugar, there are many steps we can take to shore up our oral health. This is episode 331, and our guest is Dentist Marc DiNola. He is a graduate of the University of Maryland, Baltimore College of Dental Surgery.
He is licensed by the Dental Board of Maryland and is a member of several dental associations, including the international association of Mercury-Free Dentists and the Holistic Dental Association. Marc unpacks what leads to many of our dental problems and he offers specific tips for what to do to turn things around. He suggests that nutrition, for example, is foundational for good oral health and recommends that we make an effort to include Gouda cheese, organ meats and fat from pastured animals into our diet.
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Welcome to the show, Marc.
How are you?
I’m doing great. You’ve surprised me already because you are a dentist who knows about the work of Weston Price. When I go to a different dentist, I’m generally surprised to find that they know nothing about this amazing dentist and researcher.
I think it was off our radar, obviously in dental school, because he spoke about things that maybe were verboten, not important in terms of modern dentistry, but he did a lot of nice research that I found out about through the IAOMT, International Academy of Oral Medicine Toxicology. Then I was also involved with the IABDM, which is another offshoot of Weston Price and Hal Huggins. Those names are always controversial because they talk about heavy metals like mercury fillings. It wasn’t in institutions that are the normal dental schools because they give information that’s not convenient for the dialogue of modern dentistry.
Dr. Price talked about mercury. What else did he say that doesn’t quite jive with modern dentistry?
Unfortunately, nutrition isn’t done as much as it should be in terms of medical school or dental school. The inconvenience stuff was his studies on root canals, some of the bacteria, and his animal studies. It’s not convenient. We were going to get into this at the end of our talk, but we’re getting into it sooner. The way I look at it is every part of our body or organ or cell has a function. Our kidney, for example, the kidney filters our blood and does a certain thing based on all the cells. A tooth has cells that are alive and some that are not. The material like the enamel is hydroxyapatite and is not alive necessarily, but the dentin right underneath is alive, and its nutrition is all brought forth by the blood supply and the cells that are right lining next to the pulp.
The tooth is alive? I thought teeth were like hair or nails that they grow, but they’re not alive.
That’s an interesting way to talk about that. The teeth are alive and people don’t realize that they are living tissue. What was inconvenient was the fact that he discovered once a tooth is devitalized, that it changes and that’s where I’m coming from. I studied Physiology. I was working on my Master’s in dental school in Physiology.
I always focused on form and function. Something is a form. It’s formed through a cluster of cells, for example, the kidney. A tooth is a number of cells together organized in a fashion, and then when it’s devitalized and the pulp and the nervous system are taken out, the lymphatic system is removed as well. Once that’s done, the tooth is sitting there and there’s no live tissue anymore.
Why would that need to happen in the first place? Why would it need to be devitalized as you said?
We were talking about this also. It’s the prevention. When decay is rampant or decay gets into the nerve, then there’s nothing that can be done because the bacteria have infiltrated the canal system. Once that happens, what we want to do is avoid that. That’s what we talk about with nourishing traditions and the way Weston Price talked about food.
If we’re not eating correctly, and we can talk about other diets, but if we’re not eating whole foods, nutrient-dense foods, we’re not getting the fat-soluble vitamins that Dr. Lin talks about and other people from the Weston Price Foundation. We all talk about what is in the yellow fat? I think we’re eating the sun. I remember we talked about this before.
We get the sun, we want to be outside, but the sun is converted by plants, and then the plants are eaten by animals and the animals convert all the bacteria. Their microbiome converts that material into K2, D3 and all the vitamins that we need. I think that’s what American diets are missing. That’s what he elucidated with his factor X and all that other stuff. It was not convenient information. The sad thing is they threw all his information about nutrition out the window because of the things he was talking about like mercury fillings and these root canals. That’s sad to me.
It’s terribly sad. Let’s focus on those things. Let’s talk about prevention first and foremost, and then we’ll go back to the root canal stuff. You mentioned K2, and Dr. Price called that Activator X. Where can we find that vitamin or activator in our diets?
We talked about fermented cod liver oil and goose liver. It is very abundant in organ meats and fermented foods. K is converted from K1 to K2, and bacteria turn it to K2 and MK7. There are a few different K vitamins. The best I tell people to eat are eggs, things that are yellow, the yellow fat. Weston Price had people oil pulling with fermented cod liver oil and butter like a 50/50 mix. Cheese like Gouda has K2. That’s a pretty good one. I like it. It’s very Gouda.
I love it too, and I use that same pun, “It’s Gouda.”
I would say, what’s lacking in our diet is it’s very industrial-based. Most people that read this show are probably informed enough to understand that our food in modern society is stripped out of all the things that we need. We’re eating a lot of empty calories and a lot of carbs. I can go into detail about decay, but decay has been evolved from what we thought was a bug, sugar and acid to a very systemic problem. Cavities decay is systemic and so is periodontal disease. These things are all being understood differently than they were even years ago.
I want you to explain that more because if I’m understanding you correctly, we used to think if I had a lollipop in my mouth all day, that’s why I would get a cavity, but you’re saying it has to do with more than that.
We used to say sugar is converted by the bacteria and then the bacteria poop out like the acid, produce acid and that dissolves the tooth structure. What we’re finding now is with a lack of vitamin K2, we don’t have this pumping system, which is fluid. I described before to you that we know that the parotid gland alongside our jaws is an endocrine gland, and that K2 stimulates this action that’s going to the brain. That’s this fluid flow from inside the tooth to outside the tooth. The tooth is like a fountain, so it resists bacteria and resists demineralization, and that’s what Weston Price was showing. He didn’t know all that detail because he didn’t know what activator X was. He didn’t even know it was K2, which has only been studied the last few years ago.
I love that illustration of the fountain. The tooth is living and fighting decay. What weakens that defense system?
The lack of K would produce this missing thing that it’s not only the fact that the fluid flows wrong, the K2 is in the odontoblasts, which are the cells that make up the tooth. They are nurtured or nourished. K2 is pretty ubiquitous in the body we’re finding out now. It’s in the brain, skin and elastin in our lungs. K2 is like iodine. All of a sudden, it’s everywhere and we didn’t know it.
Why isn’t that system working anymore? It sounds like if we’re not nourishing ourselves properly with the organ meats and with the nutrient-dense foods, then that fountain isn’t flowing anymore.
I don’t want to say vegetarian diets are strictly terrible. I would say that they lack the K2 sometimes and that they’re not getting those fat-soluble vitamins that they need. What I would say is I’ve had several patients that illustrate these vegetarian patients for a few years, like 4 or 5 years, and they start to crash and get cavities. It’s probably because they’re not getting the fat-soluble vitamins.
They also get tired and they start doing more carbs. You have this vicious cycle of, “I don’t have the fat-soluble items. I’m eating more sugar.” Then you start getting these cavities that are unique on smooth surfaces or on the root surfaces. Sometimes they’ll say, “I only eat vegetables and I do juice,” but they’re not getting the fat-soluble vitamin. It’s a lack. It’s not necessarily that what they’re eating is good. It’s just not complete.
When you look in a patient’s mouth, is it like reading their food diary? Can you tell almost at a glance what their diet is made up of and if it has enough nutrient-rich foods?
For a diet that’s not a nutrient-dense diet, you can see the lack and it’s usually bleeding. They can have bleeding gums. They have more cavities. It doesn’t seem like there’s the support necessarily, and we know that all these things are systemic. They’re not local. Although, certain bacteria are local. You’ve had some people speak on this subject, but the microbiome in the mouth, it’s like the beginning of our intestines. The biofilm in our mouth is inoculating our gut. If we have bad bacteria that we inhale, then we get a lung infection. There’s this intimate relationship between the microbiome and the mouth. That’s what we’re learning now.
It’s all connected. I’ve heard that heart patients, if they have issues with their teeth, it’s all connected. Some people have cardiac issues after dental work. Is there some connection that we might not understood fully yet?
We’re learning more every day. There are the cytokines that you hear about, the cytokine storm that we’re talking about. Every year or so, there’s another one identified. It’s like we’re up to 26 or 27 or whatever we’re up to now in terms of these cytokines. Those are the messengers that cells release to communicate. 1 or 2 that I can mention in periodontal disease is one of them is activate C-reactive protein in the liver in a distant site. IL-6 or interleukin 6 is one that’s inflammatory.
Are those cells sending that message with that cytokine from the liver or from the teeth?
It’s the other way around. It could go both ways, but I believe that like tumor necrosis factor is released. It sounds terrible when you say tumor necrosis factor but that cytokine is released from periodontal lesions and so as IL-6. Those are also abundant around any abscess. An abscess on a root canal or a tooth that died, there’s a periapical periodontitis, in which periodontitis is around the teeth, and periapical is around the root of the tooth that also has the same chemistry.
You were saying something earlier about this is a systemic issue. If I’m hearing you correctly, there is a link between what is happening in our mouth with the teeth and the rest of our body.
If you want to even go back, I did mention that I was a Physiology major. If you look at a fetus, its central nervous system is laid out early on with the blood vessels. It’s all continuous. It’s all one body. It’s silly to say that the teeth are separate. The jaw bone is connected to the neck bone. I have to say that. The periodontal situation that we see people in, those blood vessels are nurturing the teeth and the gums. They’re intimate with the circulation. If you have a small infiltration of any bacteria, it goes right into the bloodstream. When you were asking about heart disease, the link is about there are several bacteria that are related to cardiovascular problems.
In fact, if you did atheroma and you took out the plaque that was in a heart or you did the Roto-Rooter in some vessel, you find bacteria from the mouth. It’s almost every time. In fact, even breast biopsies have had bugs from the mouth and prostate. It’s all connected. Bacteria look for a place. They look for a niche. Giving them a niche is where a sink, niche or a place for them to be is the opportunistic situation that we give them. They will take the opportunity if given the right environment.
Prevention isn’t about brushing our teeth and flossing properly. You’re saying it has to do with nutrition as well or maybe more so?
It’s very under-discussed in most dental practices. I’m Italian. I talk about food all the time because we all like to eat but to me, it’s like, “Let food be thy medicine.” Many smart people in the past have said there’s a connection. Benjamin Franklin was looking at what he was eating back then, and he lived to 80. He was cognizant of the fact that maybe alcohol wasn’t good for you. He probably knew all that, smoking and things like that.
It totally makes sense when you see through history, and that’s what Weston Price did. He looked at the history of what people were eating and that’s what we’re getting away from now. I have a conversation all the time about food like eating bone broth. If I’m doing oral surgery and I’m putting in implants and things like that, you want all the building blocks. If you don’t have them, things aren’t going to be successful for you. We want the best for our patients, so that’s what we talk about.
You’ve mentioned organ meats, eggs, cheese and bone broth. Any other prevention tips in terms of dietary choices?
Going back to the idea if you don’t eat meat, you should be eating ghee. The largest number of vegetarians on the planet is from India. Asian Indians are vegetarians. They eat lentils. They eat all these kinds of vegetables. They eat that glistening sun. They eat the ghee, which has all the fat-soluble vitamins in it, and this is what we see. That’s why they are probably successful with their diets. Some people don’t eat the sacred cow. They considered cows sacred, also the Weston Price people. That ghee has all those wonderful fat-soluble vitamins in it.
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I want to pivot and talk about what issues are you seeing predominantly, and what can we do about them? You’re a holistic dentist. What’s the most common issue you’re seeing?
I think the breakdown of tooth structure is what we’re seeing. The etiology of that was complicated, but we used to discuss a little bit of that already. It’s sugar in the diet. In 1900, we’re eating 4 pounds of sugar per year per person, and now it’s like pushing 200 pounds per person. This is crazy. It’s sugar. I see a lot of Mennonite and Amish people here. They sought me out because I’m holistic, but I have conversations with them all the time, and their diets are white flour and sugar. I talked to Sally about this too.
Somebody from their group, who does blood chemistry and helps them with their health, I wrote a letter to him because he asked me to write it for their members. It was about the microbiome, brushing and hygiene. For us in America, it’s probably lack of hygiene, too much sugar and the wrong foods, and then not having those nutrient-dense foods in their diet. I try to get them to eat butter and I talk about the choices of plant oils that are bad too. I say switch those out to animal fats. That’s what I’ve been talking to patients about since I learned about Weston Price.
People need to hear this all over the world. I’m remembering when I was in Kenya, even in the most remote villages, their natural fats or rendered lard were replaced by the displacing foods of modern commerce which is what Dr. Price called it. They were using regular yellow oils. I don’t even know what plant they came from and they’re all rancid, deodorized and packaged up in a pretty package, and the people think they’re eating their traditional foods, but they are no longer. I’m sure their teeth and their overall health are affected.
In fact, you might be aware of this, but because of the plant oil situation, the largest number of chronic diseases is in the third-world country, not in modern countries, which is crazy, but if you think about it, it’s flipping. I don’t want to get into the Big Pharma and all that other stuff. They think they’re doing the right thing and this cholesterol has been thrown under the bus for so many years because of the sugar industry and that whole controversy.
The idea is you think you’re feeding people the right foods is probably the wrong foods. The American Heart Association is still recommending these plant oils. If you watch a PSA or you listen to them, talk about what to replace things with. They’ll still say, get the animal fat out and have corn oil, flaxseed oil or whatever other oil.
The fact that we’re so much on the same page, I appreciate it. Marc, I want to ask you, if my tooth starts to decay, as a holistic dentist, do you recommend filling it? I heard there was a book one time called Reverse Tooth Decay. Is that possible?
I don’t want to say it’s not possible because I do it all the time if you stop the source of the problem. A lot of kids are drinking pop or soda. If we eliminate that first and we don’t disturb the teeth at all, like don’t even take the plaque off, which is crazy to think about. Then you have them start to use certain types of medicine.
It’s replacing the correct calcium to phosphorous ratio, which is what we get in our diets, with these diets. When you have too much sugar, you start to get a negative calcium balance, and so it pushes this ratio. Weston Price probably figured it out, but then Melvin Page after him in the ’70s, he was talking about this ratio is important. It’s the same deal as K2. It starts this pattern of the tooth material starting to leave the tooth instead of staying together. You lose calcium because of this exit of sugar out of your kidneys, you lose calcium, and so the ratio starts to change and that creates the chalky tooth structure, and then it starts to degrade the tooth.
Your question about, can you reverse that? You eliminate the things that are bad, and then you bring in the good thing. I use this. It’s called MI Paste and I get the one without fluoride. It does have saccharin, but they want to make it at least palatable, which is what they’re trying to do. You eliminate the bad things and we get people eating bone broth and change it. I’ve taken kids that had twenty cavities and I’ve only had to fill two.
When a tooth, the enamel is gone, it has to be replaced. If you don’t disturb anything, you can be lucky. I had a bunch of kids and teenagers that listened to me and it’ll work. I get rid of a bunch of cavities for them and it’s amazing. You have to change the diet and that’s what Weston Price showed. We told the kids. I told you about that.
He was studying in Cleveland, I believe. He was looking at the boys’ schools. He was looking at mental illness and mental health. It was separate, then it should be together. It should be all one thing, but a sick kidney, brain and heart. It was because they were not getting the nutrients they needed for their mental health, how serotonin is built by amino acids. It was tryptophan and all the neurochemicals. Tryptophan goes into dopamine and serotonin. If you don’t have the right amino acids, then you’re in trouble mentally. He told kids to go out in the sun. Get shorts on and go out in the sun and eat some butter. That’s what he was telling them to do.
He did a lunch experiment at one school, feeding the kids one solid nutrient-dense meal per day, and he found that their behavior improved in addition to their teeth and everything else. I want to go back to something you said. You said leaving the plaque on. I’ve wondered about that because when I visit even my holistic dentist, they’re chipping away at accumulated plaque, and someone said somewhere that maybe it’s good for us. What do you think?
You’ve done some podcasts with a dentist, but Dr. Lin would probably talk about the microbiome. The microbiome is critical. We generally have 700 species of bacteria. The microbiome can be changed, in terms of the bad bugs being a higher number. When you create an environment, that’s what I was saying about the, “You give them the sugar, they’re going to have a party.” You can have a biofilm that’s healthy until it’s not, or the same bugs that the same biofilm can turn to the dark side and it’s more anaerobic.
What you’re trying to do is disrupt the plaque daily in a gentle way that you’re not causing like a desert in your mouth. You want to alter the plaque or alter the microbiome in the mouth to the point where you oxygenate it and you keep the bad bugs out, and you don’t get pockets and things where these guys can hide. That’s the tricky thing. What I was saying about, that was only that one circumstance with the plaque. When you go in for the dent, they’re taking the tartar off and then you need to repopulate with good plaque. That’s a K2 problem too, the tartar. He talked about that as well.
Do you recommend oil pulling? I know some people use coconut oil for pulling and swishing.
I do recommend it. I’ve been thinking about the nuance of maybe oil pulling, not as much like every day, but maybe it’s a maintenance type thing. Eating the same food every day might not be good too. We have to talk about that sometime. As far as disrupting the colonies of plaque, you want to keep them healthy. I think what it is, is a nutrient-dense diet produces a healthy plaque. A poor plaque is if you smoke and you have anaerobic bacteria, the ones that don’t use oxygen. Those create toxins, lipopolysaccharides that affect the heart. Those are the bad bugs that we don’t want to grow.
They’ll always be there in a healthy plaque. They’re in our mouth now, but in a healthy plaque, they’re in low numbers. When it turns, that’s when you start getting periodontal problems. That’s when we think someone’s sick. I’ve only had two leukemias in my twenty-something years of practice, but we were, “Why is this guy bleeding?” It was leukemia.
When something changes, we have to be observing that. If you have a lot of bleeding gums and you have to see what that might be, there could be a local factor. Your gum should not bleed when you brush your teeth. It should not bleed when you floss. It’s a daily regimen of disrupting the plaque. It’s insulin balanced too. It’s all the sugar balance. When you have high sugar, the fluid around your teeth, we call it a crevicular fluid, but that fluid flow that comes out of your gums has higher sugar levels.
It’s a pool party. A pool party with a lot of sugar is going to feed whoever is there. It seems like we don’t understand how microbiomes work, but there’s a sticky film that protects them and they live together and they exchange DNA and all this other stuff. We don’t know why it turns south or turns negative, but it’s always a sign that something could be going on with the immune system, immune function, white cell, high white cell or whatever it might be.
When I think of the worst-case scenario or things going south, I think about root canals. I know Dr. Price didn’t recommend them. Can you tell us a little bit about what the deal is with a root canal? Doesn’t it leave like something dead in your mouth? Explain that please.
This is very controversial. If there is a regular dentist reading this, they’re going to be upset. As I told you, I was in Physiology in my dental school years. I always study what something is in terms of cells, form and function. That’s what Physiology is. Something works a certain way. If you kink a hose, it doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to work. If you change the flow of a tooth, it’s not going to perform the way it was supposed to. When a tooth is devitalized, which is what a root canal is, you take out the nerve, the lymphatic system. You debride the inside of a tooth and you put some plastic in there. That works, but is it healthy? That’s the question we have to say.
The shell of the tooth itself is still there with the insides wiped out?
A root canal procedure is named after the canal system, which is the major canals. There are a number of accessory canals. There are tubules all over the tooth. If you can picture a Swiss cheese, tight together all the way down the root, that’s of the same size hole basically. In some places, there are more holes than others, but that’s where the appendage of the odontoblast, the cells that make up a tooth, put their little appendage out all the way to the ligament of the tooth. It’s hard to visualize this. You have some cone shape thing inside the cone, our cells and going out towards the outside are the appendages of the cell, the living cell. When the tooth is debrided, the cells die.
Those tubes become little caverns and that’s where the bacteria can hang out. I told you about a niche before, that’s a niche. That’s a condominium. That’s a place for them to live. This is controversial because the dentist doesn’t want to take out teeth. I don’t want to take out teeth if I don’t have to, but that’s the question. That’s why we get into prevention, and we talk about food because we don’t want to ever get to that point.
In fact, when there’s a deep cavity, I do everything I can to avoid a root canal. I use ozone. I know where the pulp is and I’d go towards the pulp and I stop. If we have active decay, we arrest it with the ozone. Unfortunately, the body is very intuitive and smart. The way the teeth do this as a cavity is getting closer to the nerve, if it’s slow enough, the body will respond and form more tooth structure, and that’s called secondary dentin. If it happens fast, if you’re drinking soda every day and it happens within a couple of months, then the bacteria are going to be inside the tooth. There’s nothing you can do. You might have pain. You might not, but when the tooth dies, you don’t have any pain. When it abscesses, you have pain again. There are a lot of things in dentistry that are crazy that don’t hurt. That’s one of them. Not everybody has a tooth that hurts that need a root canal or needs to be removed.
The choice is made. I tell patients, you have a choice. You can have the tooth removed or I can start a root canal. I do still start them, but I don’t do them anymore, but I send them out. It’s their choice. I try to inform them about the situation, explaining it like this Physiology moment where a tooth does lose its function or its Physiology has changed. Can it still do what it’s supposed to do?
I was telling you it was a sensory organ, so it can sense, “I’m eating a carrot. I’m eating this.” Some chiropractor friend of mine was saying, “It probably sets up the enzyme systems that are in place.” Maybe I know that texture is an apple. I know the sweet. Maybe it knows those sensory things. Who knows? We don’t know all that. It’s a sensory organ as well, but when you take the nerve away, it doesn’t have that anymore.
It doesn’t have that capacity. You were telling me earlier also that in medicine, if the foot has gangrene, it’s often amputated because otherwise, it will affect the whole body. In a sense, when we leave our root canal in or when that tooth is dead, it’s like leaving something in your body that could be detrimental.
For some reason, we can get away with it. Maybe it’s hubris to think that we should. Maybe 100 years from now, hopefully not, but maybe we’ll be enlightened somehow. Someone will tell us, but we know there are people telling us that these aren’t good, and there are some people that are affected. Going back to the meridians, we know people that have GI problems like large intestine, they always have. If they have dead teeth on those meridians, they’re worse.
It’s setting up this lowered energy flow and these meridians. It’s hard to explain because we’ve learned, Western medicine and we haven’t learned Eastern medicine, most of us. I have a little experience with acupuncture, not a lot. The meridians have been identified in Japan. There is an electrical system right under our skin that we’ve been talking about. Now they visually know because they’ve been staining it and they see it. We know electrically right at our skin. It’s amazing.
I have two more questions for you. One, let’s say, I’m a person reading right now. There may be someone reading right now, who’s had a root canal or two. What should they do?
What we do is evaluate whether they look healthy on a 3D exam. We do a cone beam CAT scan, but there are different names for these. They have low radiation. They’re not like the ones you would have a CT at a hospital where they do lots of sections. It’s using information that’s comparing the data that was taking to the next one. It doesn’t have as much radiation. With the 3D, we can see all around the root and we can see bone density. This is changing our game because we can say this tooth looks good or it doesn’t base on that 3D. If someone has a root canal and it hurts, that’s not good, but the most dental disease doesn’t hurt.
It can have an abscess and not hurt, but if we see an abscess, then we make a decision then. Do we want to retreat the root canal or do you want to take the tooth out? When the decay went into the nerve, the choice was given. Extraction or a root canal and you chose the root canal. Now you have to make the decision. Do you want to try to retreat that or do you want to get the tooth removed?
In my office, when a patient says, “I want that out.” Then we go ahead and anesthetize them normally. As we take the tooth out, we take the ligament out and we infiltrate the tissues with ozone, which kills all the bacteria. It brings blood flow back to the area, and then we put their platelets, which is neat with technology.
We put their platelets in the socket, then we suture it over, and there’s no way that bacteria from the mouth can get into the bone at that point, which is a great thing. That’s part of the problem with taking out teeth is there’s an open structure that’s not sealed, and that’s not good. That’s what we do here, but the choice is always given to the patient.
Women have breast implants, it’s their decision to do that. It’s your body. You have the decision to do what you want to do. I try to inform patients and try to educate them. I have patients that have mercury fillings and they don’t want them out, so we don’t take them out. I’m probably a bad dream in some mind. I will remind them and say, “These are 24/7 releasing mercury. I don’t think that’s healthy for you,” and then we make those decisions together.
I love that you are so informed. Can you tell us some of the books that you would recommend for folks who want to pursue this information further about the teeth, meridians or root canals? Any resources you might point them to or even the authors or speakers?
The Weston Price Foundation has so much stuff on this. Louisa Williams has written beautiful documents or papers on and books on this subject. Dr. Thomas Levy is a friend of mine. He talks about vitamin C. He’s written several books about root canals or dental infections. He co-wrote it with a dentist, and it was called Toxic Tooth.
Thomas Levy, he’s a cardiologist and a lawyer, and he wrote a book about a root canal. If you want to listen to anybody, I would listen to him because he’s not going to say something he couldn’t say, unless he could back it up with current literature. He has plenty of information. I told you about atheroma. They are bacteria from the mouth. I’m going to quote him. He says, “A correlation between root canals and heart disease is probably a connection that’s causal.” That’s what he says. It’s hard for me to say that and not have the feeling of someone’s going to come after me in the dental community. I feel like there are plenty of evidence, and there’s enough research now.
I would say there are susceptible individuals and there are some people that aren’t susceptible. Those cytokines are happening, and there are toxins that bugs are making. Our bodies can handle almost everything when you break up a bacterium. The only thing they can handle is lipopolysaccharides that those toxins and those bugs make. You’re familiar with toxic shock syndrome, which is what women used to have. I don’t think they even do that anymore.
If you could think of what was going on, it was they weren’t exchanging feminine hygiene often enough. There was a bolus of blood, bacteria and anaerobic situation without any blood flow from the outside or immune function or immune system monitoring. Then it became a culture medium, and then the lipopolysaccharides got into the bloodstream all at once, and that’s what got them.
That’s the thing that happens in a cytokine storm. Cytokines but the lipopolysaccharides combined with the cytokines, it’s too much inflammation at one time. A body can handle every part of a bacteria, including the cell wall and the lipopolysaccharides that they make are hard to handle. They have to be handled individually with a white cell. Eating it or grabbing it, or bringing it in and degrading it, but if there’s too much, then you can’t do it.
If you had a root canal that was sitting there, that is what’s released these lipopolysaccharides. There are also mercaptans, sulfur dioxide and other chemicals that are released that cause clotting problems and other problems. It’s a can of worms. You forced me to talk about this. It’s not that I didn’t want to talk about it. It’s very controversial. I don’t want to hurt anybody.
Like I was saying to you, a good friend of mine went to school for three more years after dental school to learn about root canals. It’s a hard thing to say, “What you did, you’re hurting people.” I would never say that to anybody. When information changes, we need to change what we’re doing. This is what we’re talking about with the foundation.
We would recommend the people to go back to the beginning and read to the part about what they can do to prevent such a situation, and they will explore the resources you’ve given them. I don’t think you’ve disheartened anyone. I want to ask you as we close up, if the readers could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?
Eliminating the sugar. I even learned this just this year 2021. I’m always reading new things, but I learned that high-fructose corn syrup probably interferes with the production of vitamin D, like the last couple of steps. Isn’t that crazy to think that you’re taking in something that’s taking away something? This is what I often talk about pharmaceutical medications. If you take a certain medication, you know that you should be taking more zinc and more magnesium. Most medications will deplete you of zinc, magnesium and D3. It’s educating. That’s what I feel I’m doing and some of these braver people are doing with education.
They don’t know what they don’t know. Everyone thinks that they’re eating the right thing, and now plant oils are in everything. You think you’re eating a healthy snack and there’s soya oil in there. I don’t know. The one thing would probably be less sugar, more healthy fats, whole foods and stay away from any beverage with high-fructose corn syrup or any sugar. The only sugar you should eat maybe is honey. That could be in your tea, not in the larger amount. It doesn’t even seem to spike your blood sugar like sugar does, which is weird. It’s fructose. You could say it’s from an animal.
Thank you so much, Marc. This has been a great conversation.
Our guest was Dentist Marc DiNola. Visit his website MDDentalWellnessCenter.com for blog posts, videos and other resources. I’m Hilda Labrada Gore. You can find me at HolisticHilda.com. Now for a letter to the editor from a journal. “Thank you so much for the article by Sally and Dr. Cowan, The Contagion Fairy Tale. “Is there any possibility that the article could be put into a flyer or a brochure? There is such a need for something like that.
Quite a few years ago, I came to question the validity of Pasteur’s germ theory of disease. I had been reading the information-packed publication Health Consciousness for several years. It was full of information about the dangers of dental amalgam, dangers of vaccination and criticism of the Germ Theory on which the entire vaccination agenda is based.
I began to think that if something wasn’t done to bring this criticism of the Germ Theory to the attention of the public, it was going to be used to destroy our society and our health freedom. Primarily because of the argument I kept hearing from pro-vaxxers that it was okay to put your health at risk, it’s not okay to put the health of others at risk. I never ever envisioned something as bad or totally crazy as this “Pandemic of 2020.”
Several years ago, I made up a brochure entitled Vaccination Is Based on Fraud. The two points I tried to make in the brochure were that Pasteur’s Germ Theory has been questioned since the time of Pasteur, and that vitamin C is known to be an absolute for many of the diseases we’ve been told we need to be vaccinated against. I don’t have a scientific background, but I gave it my best shot.
I would love for you to seriously consider putting out a brochure or pamphlet of some sort. The world needs something like that from people with your expertise and knowledge. In fact, while out with my husband on a walk on snowy roads, we met a neighbor for the first time. We stopped to chat for a few minutes and the pandemic, of course, came up. I told him that I thought it was a fraud and a hoax. He agreed. I wish so much that I’d had a flyer or pamphlet to give to him.” This is from Violet in Idaho.
Violet, we have heard your cry. Seriously, the Weston Price Foundation is developing a new brochure. We are in the process of preparing and developing a new brochure called The Myths and Truths About COVID-19. Be on the lookout for that on our website. Go to our little shop on our website. Go to WestonAPrice.org/orders and look for the brochure. Thank you so much for writing your letter, Violet. Email us at Info@WestonAPrice.org and put a letter to the editor in the subject line whether you have a testimonial, a question or something positive to say about the show or our work here. Thank you so much for reading, my friends. Stay well. Hasta pronto.
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