Hidden Facts On The Hazards Of Vaccines With Magdalene Taylor

“Safe and effective.” This is the mantra of those in favor of vaccinations, who claim that they save lives. But, there is mounting evidence that they are neither safe nor effective. Most of us simply haven’t been privy to the facts. That is about to change.

Magdalene Taylor is the Director and Editor of The Informed Parent (TiP), a journal to encourage an informed vaccination decision based on a wide range of information. Magda was once a believer in vaccines until she came across some literature that gave her pause. Now she equips parents with information on the hazards associated with so-called immunizations. This episode focuses on many relevant topics including how few doctors speak out about vaccination risks, how little they actually know about vaccines, and how the entire medical industry is captured by the pharmaceutical industry. Magda also shares books, reference materials, and more to empower parents, along with suggestions for how to manage well-meaning relatives and friends (and medical professionals) who insist that any vaccine hesitancy is problematic.

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Introduction

Safe and effective. This is the mantra of those in favor of vaccinations who claim that they save lives. There is mounting evidence that they are neither safe nor effective. We haven’t been privy to the facts. That is about to change. This is episode 551, and our guest is Magdalene Taylor. Magda is the director and editor of The Informed Parent, a journal to encourage an informed vaccination decision based on a wide range of information.

Magda was once a believer in vaccines until she came across some literature that gave her pause, and she reversed course. Now she wants to make sure that parents, especially, are informed about the hazards associated with the so-called immunizations. We cover a lot of territory in our episode, including why so few doctors speak out against vaccination and about its risks, how little they actually know about them in the first place, and how the entire medical industry is captured by the pharmaceutical industry.

Magda also shares books, reference materials, and more to empower parents, along with recommendations and suggestions for how to manage well-meaning relatives, neighbors, and even medical professionals who insist that we vaccinate our children. Before we get into the conversation, are you new to the Weston A. Price Foundation? We want to give you some great resources for free. WAPF offers a free info pack that gives you background on the foundation, along with our most popular brochure.

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Welcome to the show, Magda.

Thank you for inviting me, Hilda. It’s a pleasure to be on your program.

Magda’s Turning Point

You have been in the trenches for so long, helping empower parents to understand the risks that come with vaccines. Talk to us about your a-ha moment in 1991 when you read that article.

It came out of the blue. I was just flicking through a journal, the Evening Standard, London journal that came out once a week, and I opened to a page, Vaccination the Hidden Facts, and I immediately thought, “What hidden facts?” Also, my second daughter was due for the MMR. I hadn’t questioned it at all before then.

I just assumed it was a good thing, like most people. I read it, and it just triggered an enormous need to look into it. I felt alarm bells going off, thinking, “Why didn’t I question it? Why didn’t I look into what’s in it, and does it actually work, and how it enters the body, and the declining disease had already occurred before the vaccine?”

That was pre-internet, so I actually had just they said, “Send for a stamp to address i,t and send a stamp to us envelope for a recommended reading list.” There were a lot of interesting titles, but they were all very rare and you had to order them. They weren’t in your local bookshop, so I just plowed my way through all of them because I’m not the type that would just read something and believe it.

I really need to look into it, and it was tricky because once you start questioning it, I discovered everyone around me started to look at me weirdly. Surely not. They wouldn’t give these things if there was a problem. I just persevered, and over that year, I networked and finally found other people, even doctors, health journalists, and other parents who’d not had their children vaccinated. I came together with three other mothers, and we decided to set up the informed parents.

It was really about saying to people, “Please look into it. Look at a much broader amount of information and then make your informed decision because you have to take the responsibility of what you’re going to do with your own health and your family’s health.” We weren’t in the position to say, “Don’t do it,” even though, personally, by then, I already knew I regretted all the ones I had done. Ever since then, so that’s like 33 years later, I’ve never seen anything that has made me doubt that I’m on the right path.

Isn’t that interesting? A lot of people like you were convinced that vaccines were a good idea, and then they might shift to a different stance, but you rarely see the people who are against or concerned about the consequences of vaccinations going the other way.

Absolutely. I’ve noted that over the years, and also practitioners. You get many doctors and mainstream practitioners who actually switch. I’ve never come across, I’m not saying there isn’t any, but I’ve never come across any alternative practitioner who wants to understand all the issues surrounding it has gone back. That says a lot as well.

Challenging The Efficacy Narrative

Magda, tell us about some of the hidden facts. If you had to write that article, what are some of the things that most of us don’t know when it comes to vaccinations?

Obviously, the first thing is people always say, “We’ve eradicated diseases,” and they come out with smallpox, etc, and eradicated and all that. One of the things that was pointed out, and then I checked, look, all those diseases from the 1800s, which came out actually, in those days, came under a title zymotic disease, and the practitioners of those days actually were more naturopathic.

They actually saw these disease symptoms as the body purging impurities, which is very naturopathic. All the diphtheria, measles, whooping cough, smallpox, tuberculosis, etc. They were all coming down dramatically before vaccination. We’re always given the impression that vaccines came along and suddenly, whoosh, they’ve gone. It’s quite the opposite.

We’re always given the impression that vaccines came along and suddenly—whoosh—they were gone. It’s quite the opposite.

Even in smallpox, which was the only vaccine used in the 1800s, where one experienced a slight delay in decline, there were a lot of cases in the early 1870s, and there was a threefold increase. Actually, it was mostly in the vaccinated because at that time there were a lot of mandatory laws with that vaccine. All the other diseases were coming down the same way as smallpox. The only one that shot up in that period was actually smallpox. That was the only one they vaccinated against.

Almost we’ve been sold a bill of goods, the collective consciousness. We’ve all been told so many times, vaccines eradicated diseases that we just buy at hook, line and sinker without looking at the data that indicates that improved sanitation, different conditions contributed to people being able to withstand, as you were saying, the body simply processing some toxins and getting them out of the system.

I know. These are the things that no one gets taught. From an early age, if you even do anything at school on Edward Jenner or any of Louis Pasteur, you just get told how wonderful they were and that they have saved the world, etc. You don’t. Why would you look into it? When you’re a teenager, you don’t look into things like that.

As a parent, sadly, at the moment, the pressure on parents is enormous and much worse than even when I was a new mum. The reason, I personally think, is that there’s been a growing concern since that time. Late 1980s, quite a few books were coming out, especially from the US. Into the ‘90s, then we had things like Andrew Wakefield raising his hand to say, “I think there might be an issue with the MMR and autistic spectrum type of conditions.”

This triggered off a lot more interest. When we first got going, the first thing in ‘92, that was when a few things came out about the MMR, and then there was this huge push at school campaign in November 1994. They’re targeting every child from 5 to 16, and due to “There’s going to be a measles epidemic. It’s just around the corner.” A bit like a mini version of what we’ve been told in recent years. Of course, nothing did happen like that, but they did vaccinate a lot of children then and give them another dose.

They started bringing in second booster shots. I know it’s the same in the US. They initially bring out one, and then they suddenly say, “Within a couple of years, you need a booster and another booster. How about a few more added in?” It is actually this real harsh push and all the censorship the last few years, really, is due to more people waking up. Even still, there are many who they’re believers. I was a believer. I didn’t even think to question it. It’s just blind faith.

What do you think, Magda, predisposed you or prepared you to even consider? I know you said there was this article, but what made you open to it? Some people might read it and just think, “This is nonsense.” This is heretical in a way, as if it were a religion.

Probably my background. I was raised in a household where we didn’t really go to the doctors, and it wasn’t any philosophy. It was just that my nan lived with us. She didn’t trust doctors. She was never registered with a doctor, and she got to 91. She just got registered in the last year before she died, but she didn’t want to see them anyway. They probably would have started saying you need a new hip and everything, and need this and that. I’d always had that thing, and we didn’t really get sick in our house. I had measles, mumps, and chicken pox. If we didn’t feel very well. It’s like a hot water bottle, take a rest. I had that underlying naturopathic philosophy without realizing it. I think that helped.

I’m sure it did. Let’s go back to the hidden facts. We have the one that vaccines did not indeed eradicate disease, as we’ve been told. What’s another thing that might surprise folks?

They did talk about the end entry into the body because the idea is you’re supposed to be having a mild version of a disease, so they only put certain things in the vaccine and inject them, but in a natural setup. You don’t have that situation. I’ve shifted even from that article because initially I thought, yes, that’s true, you’re overstimulating.

It’s your bypassing the natural route if indeed we do breathe in germs. Now, over the years, I’ve become very much concerned that the whole idea of germ theory, dear Louis Pasteur and all his gang, that we’ve been led up the wrong path. If you talk about Antoine Bouchon, they have never heard of him, and yet he was a scientist at the same time. He wasn’t alone. Pasteur had many critics, but he was also in a position of he knew the right people high up. I did actually read a book in ‘92 called Pasteur Exposed.

I’d already gotten on this thing about questioning germ theory, especially in recent years, because of the COVID story. It’s been great to see books coming out, which also made me realize, because I used to think, “What is a virus?” There are a few good things come out of the last few years. It’s actually got more doctors and scientists questioning. Also, the whole virus story. Have we ever isolated or actually seen one, and has it been characterized, and has it been shown to cause disease? There doesn’t seem to be anything so far that really shows that.

Questioning The Route Of Administration

I know it’s fascinating. To your point about the entry into the system, I remember talking to Dr. Tom Cowan, who said the same thing. He said, in other words, the idea that injecting something into the bloodstream, into the muscle, and into the bloodstream could help us, when actually, if we did encounter a germ or virus on the street, it would never be injected into the bloodstream. There are lines of defense that are being bypassed in this measure, and consequently, it’s artificial and also dangerous.

Yes, I mean, it’s bypassing and it’s going deeper into the body. Even when people actually the so-called professionals who do the injections, some are harsher than others, the way they puncture straight through. You could liken it to being bitten by a cobra really, because you’re injecting right into the body and then introducing not only the material they allege is as a germ or weakened virus or whatever, you’ve also got all sorts of products, aluminium salts and formaldehyde products and animal tissue and all sorts of other products that they seem to be very happy to put inside young babies’ bodies. It doesn’t matter really, young babies or grown-up adults are still poisoning themselves. You’re basically poisoning the body, and how can that benefit your health-wise?

Wise Traditions | Magdalene Taylor | Vaccines — Vaccines: When you’re injecting something directly into the body and introducing not only the material they claim is a germ or weakened virus or whatever, you’re basically poisoning the body. How can that possibly benefit your health?

I want to pose a question to you. I know you’re across the pond, I can tell from your accent. It seems to me that the schedule, the current vaccination schedule, was probably not in the article in the 1990s, but we are giving so many doses to children at the same time. It’s not just one poison. It’s to fight this disease and that disease. I was just talking to a mom who said her kid got like 6 or 8 doses in two shots in one day. That’s what people might not understand either. That seems to me a hidden fact.

There was only a triple then in the early ‘90s. It was because my daughters received DPT, diphtheria, pertussis, meaning whooping cough, and tetanus, and then a polio oral. When I think now, the schedule has expanded and expanded to the point where if you break down all those multiple vaccines in the first 2, 3, and 4 months.

They’ve had about 27 or something like that individual doses, but they put them in, like you say, 6 in 1, and they’re trying to cram as many in as they possibly can. Also, they’re just introducing all sorts of things that wouldn’t have bothered anyone in the past, even though, if you think about things like infantile diarrhea. They brought the rotavirus vaccine out. No one was worrying. No health visitor said to me in the early ‘90s, “No, if only we had a rotavirus vaccine. If only we had the Hib vaccine.”

When they introduced Hib, I thought, “That’s strange. I had never heard of it a year before.” They never came to me and said, “Dear, your children are at risk.” Once they’ve got the vaccine ready to market, that’s it. We have to start scaring everyone about Hib. If they use the word meningitis, of course, that’s terrifying to the average person. One doctor on a live BBC debate, because they were talking about mumps, was trying to create fear in the parents. They said, “Mumps meningitis. You could get mumps meningitis.”

When they dished out, they sent over a load of vaccines to Brazil in that era because some of the MMR brands had been banned in the UK. They had a load of mumps component. They just sent it over. When there was a huge increase in mumps meningitis because of the vaccine program, when he was challenged, he just said, “Mumps meningitis is just a severe headache which usually resolves itself.”

Speaking out of both sides of their mouths.

Yes, of course they always do. Measles would show terrifying adverts where parents wailing down the passages of the hospital. It’s all in black and white with sinister music saying, “Was it this? Was it drugs?” “No, it was measles.” Don’t underestimate all this stuff.

I’m only chuckling, and I’m sure you know this, Magda, because of all of your research, but I’ve read Tom Cowan’s book, which was Vaccines, Autoimmunity, and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illness. He was saying exactly what you’re saying, that while we think we’re protecting our children from measles or diphtheria or what have you, we’re actually causing these unintended consequences of chronic illness down the line. In other words, autism, asthma, and autoimmune conditions that were never before seen started cropping up as we started increasing the vaccination schedule. Is that one of the hidden facts that was mentioned in the article, or that you’ve come across as well?

The Root Cause Of Modern Illness

It did talk about that as well, mentioned autoimmune conditions, etc., which again, even the word immune, we might shift from that now. When people talk about natural immunity, I just think in my mind natural health. I use the word health and switch it from immunity because if the germs are not the cause, we don’t have to protect from a germ. We don’t need to be immune. What we need to be is healthy and raise our health to the best we can.

We don’t need to be immune. What we need is to be healthy and to raise our health to the best level we can.

We’ve all got different levels of some people are much stronger generally and can withstand all sorts of nasties and poisons and lifestyle, and others don’t. We’re all very different, but the more you promote it, whatever level you’re at, it’s going to help. Also, then perhaps you won’t even get these symptoms of disease because if your body is relatively clean, why would you need to throw a fever and throw out a rash or start spluttering and lots of mucus?

Now my view is that these symptoms are actually the body trying to have a good old clear out. The best thing you can do is support that thing to happen. If you start suppressing it, or many people get told, even with the vaccines. If the child, if the baby’s crying, just give them a cow pole, I think you’ve got a different Tylenol.

The worst thing you could do is actually suppress the body’s reaction, wanting to throw a fever to get rid of this poison that’s just been injected. Children aren’t healthy these days. Everywhere you go, you’ve got not just physically but mentally. We’ve got all these special needs at school now. We never had that when I was at school. I know at eleve, I was in a class of 44. There were no special assistants or special needs children.

It wasn’t even needed. The more they vaccinated over the years, it’s just like skyrocketing. With the word autism, to me, it’s an umbrella term. It’s a good way to hide things like vaccine-induced encephalitis and just shove it under autism, and then people will say, “There are all these children with special qualities, and they make it almost like it’s something too privileged to be autistic now.”

Can you repeat that term, vaccine-induced?

Encephalitis or some people have encephalitis. It’s minimal brain damage, and they shove it under the word autistic spectrum, but these children, they’re not like some of the children that come under autism. These children’ll never live independently. I’ve seen people with their children, they’re having to wear things to protect their head, because they would be bashing it onto the wall, or they’re just flapping their arms around, they don’t communicate, they can be very aggressive, but they put it under autism. That’s not the same as other children, where they’re fantastic at art or they’re fantastic at some other thing.

They actually are high-functioning. These aren’t like that. These need 24-hour care. Also actually years ago, someone who had an autistic grandson sent me a paper from the 1970s, where the paper was looking at the smallpox vaccine and how it had the potential to cause an autistic spectrum. Why would they even say that? You know what? You cannot get hold of the paper. I tried to even get the abstract, and it’s interesting how many abstracts now are not available. Why aren’t they? It’s not like now they’ve got all these digital libraries. It’s not like you need a load of shelves to keep them on. Why do they make some abstracts unavailable even?

Maybe if they were to do that article, they might call it not just hidden facts, but deliberately hidden facts. There is some obfuscation going on here, perhaps to protect their reputation and to keep the machine going. As you know, at least in the US, there is a vaccine injury compensation program ostensibly set up by the government in case people are hurt by vaccines. It’s protecting very few people instead. There’s very little liability for the manufacturers. It’s not so much that they’re trying to protect themselves from lawsuits as it is. They’re trying to protect their reputation to keep it all going.

The Capture Of The Medical Industry

I know. The trouble with medicine now, as far as I can see, with everything I’ve learned over the last three decades, it’s been captured by the industry and every aspect, the journals, the schools, just anything that comes in is linked to the pharmaceutical industry. They’re funding everything. It’s interesting because I’m only a so-called layperson.

Occasionally, when I was invited on the BBC or whatever, they would often attack me or say, “Are you qualified? You’re not a doctor, or did you go to university or whatever?” I said, “No.” I can quote Professor Heidi Larson, who is part of a vaccine confidence project in this country. She said at the WHO summit meeting in December 2019 that “Doctors are lucky if they get more than half a day of training on vaccination.”

I always pointed out to them. They might have had that I’ve done 30-something years, and so I might be a little bit qualified. You can quote because even when Professor Larson was saying all this stuff, the reason she was presenting to all the delegates that day was because there’s such an increase in what they want to call vaccine hesitancy. I don’t hesitate at all. Anyway, they try to make it sound like, “We’re not quite sure.” She was saying even frontline workers, health professionals, are starting to question it. I was thinking, great 2019.

I remember interviewing Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and he said, “Hilda, this is the silver lining of COVID. It’s helping everyone realize how the sausage is made. What’s happening with the approval process of vaccines, and why is this being rushed so much when we don’t even know what this alleged virus is and so forth?” Why do you think, Magda, I want to ask you now, that those who question vaccines are termed anti-science?

They want everyone to believe in science. C.S. Lewis, the author of The Chronicles of Narnia. He started to say he was very into science, but then he realized that it was becoming today’s religion. Back then, he was saying, “No one’s allowed to question it. Science isn’t a thing anyway.” It’s like you’re learning all the time. They did the same in the 1800s. They wanted to label anyone anti-vaccine. They used to call them anti-vaccinists, except more polite, I suppose. Actually, even funnily enough, there was a medical world. There were anti-contagionists and pro-contagionists, known, contagionists. They always tried to negate anything that goes against the official narrative.

You know what’s so fascinating? These are labels, and this is what kids on the school playground will do with each other when they don’t have a real argument. They’ll just call you a name because it’s slander, it’s easy, and that discounts whatever you’re saying when, actually, what you’re saying makes sense. What I was going to say is, isn’t it true, Magda, that so-called anti-vaccination people are actually mostly former vaccination people like you? They believed in the products until they had an experience or they read something that made them realize they didn’t anymore.

Absolutely. Even including doctors. There was a wonderful doctor whom I had the pleasure of meeting, a German doctor, Dr. Buchwald. He passed away, but he now, but he got into his 90s, and he spent a good chunk of his life trying to help parents of vaccine damage, etc., because he became a victim of that. His son was severely brain-damaged after the smallpox vaccine in the late 1950s. He initially just thought about what had happened. He couldn’t understand, and within a short period of time, he and his wife realized, “It’s the vaccine.”

He started researching it and was horrified by what all his colleagues turned away from him, which most doctors, even if they have doubts, would rather just keep a low profile. They have a nice, comfortable living and reasonable salaries, etc. Also, the prestige of being a doctor, people look up to you, and they haven’t got another profession to turn to. They would much rather just put their head down. I’ve had doctors say to me, “I’m just following my job. It’s not that I believe in it. I’m just doing it thing.” It’s appalling, but they have to live with that.

That’s right.

I know some very open-minded doctors, but also ones, if I ever have a conversation with a mainstream doctor, I always encourage them just to “Have you considered this?” or “What do you think about that?” They look blankly, or I remember a pediatrician seeing all those graphs showing the decline in disease. He came rushing, “Where did you get them from?” I said, “They are the official data from the official national statistics.” You can find them yourself, but they have never seen them, and they’re actually shocked themselves.

Most of them don’t say anything. Especially when Andrew Wakefield experienced all that he experienced. They didn’t want to be in that same boat, being ostracized and booted out. I have met him a few times over the years, and he’s shifted from not really knowing much about holistic viewpoints to being very holistic now. Thank goodness he didn’t just give up, and he’s gone on to make some very interesting and eye-opening documentaries.

That’s right, because some of the scientists who signed on the dotted line of the studies that he submitted that suggested that there was perhaps a relationship between the MMR and I think autism, they backtracked, the other scientists on the paper were like, “Okay.” They rolled over and played dead basically, and Andy did not, to his credit.

Thank goodness. There aren’t many that are courageous. Some speak out when they retire. I know Professor Gordon Stewart, who also got to his ‘90s, and he was an epidemiologist. It’s well respected. He started to investigate the whooping cough vaccine in the seventies because he realized it was damaging and actually killing children and babies. He was helping parents of vaccine-damaged children.

He said he used to believe in it, etc., but when he retired, he was labeled, “He’s getting old. Seeing our dementia.” Another one, The Hazards of Immunization by Sir Graham Wilson, who worked in public health back in the ‘50s. One interesting thing is that he was writing this whole book. He said, “The book wouldn’t have happened if it hadn’t been for another chap who used to work in the same field.”

Although retired, I went off to live in Australia. He had passed on loads and loads of documents and data about vaccine damage to Sir Graham Wilson. He said he didn’t know what to do with it, and he wanted him to make use of it. He said, “If it hadn’t been for all that, he wouldn’t have written the book.” It sounded like, for me, some of these people, they know when they’re getting nearer the end of their life that they should have been more courageous.

He could have had a bonfire and just gotten rid of it, but he gave it to someone, and they published a book. Of course, these books aren’t known very well and you have to now buy things, well, if you’re lucky, secondhand, or if you can get hold of a file. That’s one thing I’ve been doing in the last few years is if I cannot find a PDF version of a book, I will manually scan every page into and I’ve got an archive library.

This takes us exactly where I was going to go, Magda. I’m sorry for interrupting you, but I’m excited. You want to help parents become informed on this subject. You said there’s lots of research, lots of data. Apparently, there are books and now PDFs and things that you’ve manually scanned. If I were a mom with little ones right now, trying to decide what I should do, where should I turn?

You could go to the website. It’s Informed Parent, and there are a lot of drop-down menus, and you can find some that we’ve done an archive one, where from even in the 1800s, text from then written by doctors and scientists, and going through different periods into the ‘50s. I always encourage people. If they’re starting to question it, rather than like question one vaccine, some people say, “I’m worried about the MMR,” or “Should I do this one or that one?”

They’re all based on the same principles, so-called science. I would say rather than going on side tracking to these different things, why not go right back to the beginning? Look at the foundations, because if you start to realize that the germ theory is far from proven science and andrology, etc., it doesn’t become an issue. You don’t need to worry, “Is this vaccine better than that one or safer?” Why would you do any of them? You’re just barking up the wrong tree entirely.

Question the foundation.

Yes, the foundation.

What do you say to the person who’s like, “I’m a little bit skeptical, but I’m feeling so much pressure from my family, from my friends. My pediatrician says I shouldn’t even let the grandparents come see the baby if they haven’t had the flu shot.” How do they withstand all of the name-calling and the group pressure to conform to what modern science is recommending?

If any of these well-meaning relatives, I had it to a degree slightly from my mother-in-law and father-in-law. Why are you changing your views, etc? I always say to people, A, “Why are you so for these things? Have you studied it? What research convinced you it was correct and that you’ve got the evidence?” I always ask them, whoever they are. Also at that time, I used to find, say, small booklets that were not too long to read.

Advice For Withstanding Social Pressure

I gave one to my health visitor when I started to question it. She gave it back to me, and she said, “Please don’t show me anymore because my job is to promote it.” She left me alone after that. My mother-in-law read that little booklet as well. She never asked me again. It’s difficult because some people are very pushy, but I would always encourage people. It’s not an argument or anything.

It’s just to calmly say, “Fine. Why do you have such a strong opinion that they are good? Have you had any experience that makes you, or read some scientific evidence, or are you just going along with it because the doctor said so?” It is blind faith. I suppose from my point of view, I always say, “I was like you once. Yes, I know exactly what you’re thinking or why, but please look into it because you might actually be surprised. It’s tricky, but I always try and personally stay very friendly and calm, which I am anyway. I don’t have to put it on.

There’s a lot to be said for that. What’s coming to my mind is that Sally sometimes says motherhood is not a popularity contest. What she means by that is feed the kids the things you know will nourish them best, whether or not they like you is another thing. Maybe we need that same thick skin with the world around us. If you have decided something because of conviction, stick to it because life is not a popularity contest.

I know. I do sometimes find myself in one of these social media discussions. As you said earlier, they usually result very quickly to being rude to you, which I don’t mind because anyone reading it will see who’s being rude, and I just continue any opportunity to put extra links in to the discussion so that others might actually click on them and learn something. It’s some people, I think it’s mostly out of fear because they’ve been brought up to fear. Some parents have a little fever, they’re panicking and rushing to the doctors.

The child picks up on the fear and deteriorates in front of their eyes. It’s the fear that drives people. Look at COVID. One chap jumped back from me because he knew me, and he said, “Have you had your back jab?” I went, “Absolutely not. Thank you very much.” He just jumped back about 10 feet and was looking very aggressive. I said to him, “Look, please look into it. I’ve been looking into it for three decades. It’s not what it seems.”

Magda, thank you so much. This has been a great conversation. You were mentioning links earlier. We will put links in the show episode description so people can find you and your resources. Of course, we have vaccine brochures and such at the foundation. We are very concerned about what people put into their bodies, both through their mouths and possibly in other parts of the body through shots. I want to pose to you now the question we love to pose at the end of the podcast. If the listener, Magda, could just do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

Being positive and smiling helps enormously. It’s like trying and look at your health. If the symptoms are occurring, it’s your body trying to throw stuff out. Help it, but don’t try and suppress it with different drugs and whatever. I think our mental state goes a long way to being why some people deteriorate, and that’s when laughter is the best medicine. I see people who have such a lovely, optimistic, and happy outlook that makes a huge difference to their well-being. I see people who are worrying all the time about, “Am I going to get this, that, and the other?” They always think. Maybe I should say keep a smile on your face, and laughter is the best medicine.

That’s perfect. Magda, thank you so much. On behalf of the Weston A. Price Foundation, we’re grateful for your time.

Thank you, Hilda. Lovely to talk to you.

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Our guest was Magdalene Taylor. You can visit her website at The Informed Parent to learn more. Now for a recent review from Apple Podcast. Christelle says this, she put the title, such great information that we desperately need. She said this, “Varied topics with knowledgeable guests. Information is practical, and I always learn something I can add to my life.”

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About Magdalene Taylor

Magdalene Taylor, director & editor of The Informed Parent (TiP) Magdalene, was one of the founders of TiP which emerged in September 1992. As a mother of 2 young daughters Magdalene started to research vaccination after reading an article entitled ‘Vaccination The Hidden Facts which was featured in an edition of the London Evening Standard weekly magazine, September 1991.

Since 1994, Magdalene single-handedly continues running the organisation and producing a regular newsletter, which has now been in publication for 32 years. The main purpose of the journal is to encourage an informed vaccination decision based on a wide range of information. Over the years Magdalene has gathered a vast amount of literature on the subject as well as attending, and on many occasions organising lectures by concerned scientists and doctors.

Magdalene has also participated on radio and TV programmes, although due to the increasing censorship these opportunities have become a rarity. In this presentation Magdalene will cover the background history of vaccination and the questionable theories on which it is based.