Regenerative Agriculture: Digging Deep

What does the health of soil have to do with our health? How do we make choices that help heal the land if we’re not farmers? And is “regenerative agriculture” just a trendy term or is there substance and merit to it? Robby Sansom is the co-founder and CEO of Force of Nature. Today he goes over key components of regenerative agriculture and the difference it makes for the health of the planet and those populating it.

He discusses the five principles of soil health and contrasts them with how the soil is treated in the conventional agricultural model. He shares startling statistics: how 80% of our food has lost its nutritional value and how the United Nations has said there are only 60 years of food production left. He covers the implications of these numbers, and he explains how these make the regenerative agriculture movement more critical than ever.

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Within the below transcript, the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Robby Sansom.

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Regenerative Agriculture: Digging Deep

The health of the soil in which your food was grown or raised directly impacts your own health. Labels like organic, grass-fed, free range, natural, they all look nice on a package, but these practices can happen in monoculture farm systems that result in depleted soil and decertification. It’s time to dig deep to support practices that increase the nutrient density of our food and the health of the soil.

This is Episode 393. Our guest is Robby Sansom, the Cofounder and CEO of Force of Nature, a regeneratively sourced meat company based in Austin, Texas. Robby spent much of the last decade studying regenerative agriculture at ranches all over the world. He has helped create a global regenerative supply network, partnering with land stewards, ranchers, and farmers committed to creating a positive return on the planet.

Through regenerative agriculture, consumers now have the ability to invest in environmental regeneration by consuming meat that is good for the planet. Robby shares with us why it’s time to go beyond the claims on packages, and dig deep to understand the way regenerative agriculture works. He goes over how to identify farming practices that sequester carbon and restore the land. He explains how our interest in food and how it was raised and our choices to support healthy practices can help build greater diversity of the ecosystem and improve soil health for our health and that of the future generations.

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Welcome to the show, Robby.

Thanks so much for having me. I’m excited.

Me, too. I can’t wait to learn more about regenerative ag from you and the mission of ROAM Ranch. I want to start with an experience that you had visiting the largest organic farm in the world. It was right next door to a regenerative bison ranch. Tell me what you saw that day, what you observed.

We were on a supplier visit visiting this ranch. It was this largest organic farm in the world. It was celebrated. It was a huge milestone for the movement to improve our food system. I was more than familiar with the operation. I had no idea it was going to share a fence line with this ranch that we were visiting. It was unbelievably impactful for me. It’s life-changing to see this. I’ll try to paint a picture with words.

This ranch that we’re going to is about 50,000 acres. It’s large. It has taken a regenerative approach, managing agriculture and nature’s image. They created a ton of native habitat for endangered species. This is in South Dakota. They brought back the natural ecosystem to its thriving potential using human ingenuity and management and recognition and celebrating the wisdom of nature. Incredible videos, and photographers think of it as stunning. It’s like going to a national park.

Across the road, this farm that I had held to high regard and heralded in my mind, this organic operation, what a great milestone. The advancement of our food systems is about 60 square miles of what looks like the surface of the moon. It’s been fully tilled. It’s all exposed soil. There’s no life on it. On one side, we have flocks of birds, and deer, and antelope and bison running around and flowers and pollinators. On the other side, it is this lifeless free of biology monoculture desert.

That’s weird because when I think of an organic farm, no matter how big or small, I’m picturing a farm with soil that has life in it. I’m not picturing a side of the moon. Talk to us more about what’s causing the difference between those two landscapes that you saw.

The key to note here is we’re on a journey, and we haven’t arrived at our destination yet. These different claims-based outcomes, whether it be natural or whether it be all the way up into organic, again, I’ve been important to raising awareness to issues and helping us advance past them. They are not the perfect epitome of what we want our food system to be, and certainly not what consumers have imagined. We all like to think of our food coming from a family-run farm that has diverse crops, and they’re part of a resilient community and they’re doing the right thing, and they’re happy to be feeding the masses and are honored by the responsibility of that calling.

The food is healthy and the systems are healthy. We’re all showing up at the cash register in droves, looking at claims on the front of packages thinking, “That is exciting. That aligns with my values. That’s what I want to support.” The truth is, that’s not what’s happening. Even when we’re buying organic or even when we’re buying grass-fed, if it’s on the protein side, and certainly when we’re buying these new highly processed synthetic food alternatives, the industry has gotten good at convincing us of what we want to hear, and allowing us to use our imaginations to perceive a system that’s better than it is as we’ve delegated the responsibility of producing food and allowed for blinders to be pulled over our eyes to the actual reality. Let’s create some transparency to all that.

I’m picturing the wonderfully packaged different products that have a picture of a little farm there. You think, “Isn’t that wonderful?” It’s a picture that might not reflect reality. I’m grateful that you had that experience and that you want to be a part of that system that you said mimics Mother Nature and is regenerative and life giving and life bringing. Talk to us about the basics of what it takes to have that regenerative agriculture system.

It’s taking an agriculture system that is largely relied on chemical and mechanical warfare against nature through heavy tillage or the heavy application of all of these chemical amendments to the soil, and replacing it with a system that celebrates and honors the wisdom of nature. Traditional agriculture or we call industrial chemical agriculture celebrates chemistry over biology and efficiency over community. What we’re proposing and we’re seeing done globally, this isn’t just us on an island, this is an international movement.

Replace the agriculture system, which relies on chemical and mechanical warfare against nature through heavy tillage or the heavy application of all these chemical amendments to the soil, with a regenerative agricultural system that celebrates and honors the wisdom of nature.

It spans decades upon decades of recognizing we’ve practiced agriculture at an unfathomable scale across the globe, and have been celebrating practices that have been detrimental to communities, land systems and ecosystems, the welfare of animals, and to the health and wellbeing of consumers. We can acknowledge that and begin to make intentional changes in those systems that we used to rely on to produce food in ways that address all of those that are more resilient and help restore hope and opportunity in our food producing communities.

That rebuild and revitalize in what we call regenerate ecosystems by allowing the key processes and cycles that have allowed for the fertility that we’ve been mining for decades to exist in the first place. We can rebuild that resiliency and stability in those systems that we rely on. We can improve the way animals are treated by causing them to be not a byproduct or a part of a machine, but a celebrated partner in the process. They perform key ecosystem services if we allow them.

Ultimately, consumers should be just as important in this cycle as anything else. We should be offering food that’s healthy and nutritious, and that isn’t riddled with these externalities that have massive costs that far outweigh the small amount of savings that you might see at the cash register for buying cheap food.

I appreciate your passion. I even want to re-read this section when I go back to read this episode later to learn about some of the important things you were saying about the exchange we’ve made. It’s like we’re exchanging our health for saving money. It’s not just our own health, but it’s the health of the animals.

One of the problems is the scale. In other words, the reason that organic farm was looking like the side of the moon is because they’re trying to feed so many people that it’s become a monocrop situation, which isn’t good for the soil and lowers the nutrition content, I believe, of the food. Do you understand it that way too about the nutritional value of the food that comes from a monocrop system?

Yeah. I’ll simplify it further for you too. We’re not just compromising our health. We’re compromising our health and the health of the Mother that we all rely on in exchange for corporate profits. That’s what it boils down to. There’s a bunch of ways to look at that. When your system relies on commodification, your system then celebrates price above all else at the expense of all else. That price is a synonym for trying to drive corporate profits for these extremely large interests that control our food.

There’s a handful of reasons why foods lost that nutritional density. If you look at what we eat, we do not eat diversely any longer. We don’t even produce a diverse prop of food. We all have heard the stats that of all the potential food that can be grown, we only eat a small handful of a dozen items. In the United States, we went from a nation of farmers to being less than 4% farmers. We went from producing hundreds of crops to largely producing corn, soy, wheat, peanut, and then trying to figure out how the heck can we take these things that we can cheaply produce in abundance and put it into everything. Now there’s corn and soy in everything not because it’s the best thing to use or eat, but because it’s convenient and cheap, and we can process it into all these varieties of things.

We’ve lost diversity in our food, which means not only are we not getting the benefit of the nutrition of a diverse diet, but we are no longer creating diversity on the land. All plants and all animals have a part in the system to produce a healthy and balanced system. If we remove that diversity, we remove those key ecosystem services. If you remove nitrogen fixing plants, which take nitrogen out of the atmosphere and put it into the soil, you have to supplement that with chemical fertilizer applications and so on.

If we collaborated with Mother Nature instead of trying to squeeze every last drop out of her, we would find more rich soil, alive soil, and then the food would be more nutritionally rich.

That’s certainly one aspect of it. How we’ve treated our land has depleted its capacity to produce nutrient-rich food. That’s what you pointed to and what I was leading into, and I was going to get to that, but what I was leading in with was even the motivations and the goals of the system have changed the game such that we’ve actively stopped producing diverse foods, which has stopped allowing for key roles to even exist in nature that would allow for fertility to be passed through to us. They all play a role that our systems have been starved for.

What if profit is not driving them? What if some people want to feed the world and they think this system is the best way to go because they’re going to yield so many crops, it’s going to be better for the world?

We’ve seen the results of that system, and then we’ve seen the results of that line of thinking. You have to look at the facts. We can’t have our heads buried in the sand when we do it. We can’t let our ideals cloud our judgment and our ability to process reality. This idea of we have to feed a growing population has led us to where we are. That’s come at the expense of the health of those systems that we’re going to be relying on in the future to produce food. They may not be there for us at the rate we keep depleting them. That has become a convenient way to oversimplify a complex problem with our food systems.

The idea that we have to feed a growing population has led us to where we are, and that’s come at the expense of the health of those systems that we will be relying on in the future to produce food.

It’s easy to say, “You have to do it our way. If you don’t do it our way, then you can’t feed the world.” It’s like, “Good luck overcoming that.” Except for the fact that doing it their way has made it more challenging to feed the world now and in the future, and made what we’re feeding less valuable and compromised the outcomes of both consumers and producers of food. All the people that we’re serving in the process are being failed by this system. If we can’t acknowledge that, then we’re going to struggle to figure out how to improve it and address those issues.

The United Nations said that there are only 60 years of food production left. What are they talking about? Are they acknowledging tacitly that the system isn’t working?

A hundred percent. It’s what I said from a food stability perspective. We are mining and depleting the fertility of these systems that are the result of tens of thousands, millions, even billions of years of evolution. We’ve disrupted the cycles that created that potential in the land. Once we’ve stopped allowing for that health to be re-energized and reinvigorated into the soils, and we’ve depleted those soils of their nutrition, we are actively eroding and losing those soils at remarkable rates. What the FAO, the Food and Agriculture Organization, is saying is we are losing soil at a rate that is faster than soil can be created. Within a generation, if we don’t change our practices and our ways, we simply won’t be able to produce food.

WT 393 | Regenerative Agriculture — Regenerative Agriculture: We are losing soil at a rate that is faster than creating soil, and within a generation, if we don’t change our practices and change our ways, we simply won’t be able to produce food.

That’s the concept of desertification. Think of the Fertile Crescent where life was spawned because it was so fertile, and think of what it looks like now, a desert, an irreversible, no longer an oasis, desertified area of land. Now we have this global society where we are practicing agriculture on 40% of the land mass of the United States. Almost 1/3 of global lands not covered in ice we practice agriculture on. The scale and impact of all of this disruption is massive. We have our heads buried in the sand. These oversimplified goals of feeding the world, we’re pretending like we’re solving a problem, but really we’re just patting profits in the process.

There’s a lot to think about. With farms like ROAM Ranch and others, I feel like regenerative agriculture is on the upswing. Talk to us about how it works and maybe even elaborate a little bit on what I know you call the five principles of soil health.

This is a big topic, so bear with me. The sustainability or the reliability of our food supply, we talked about being at a crisis point because we’re losing soil, this tiny thin layer that covers the Earth that all life depends on. Everything depends on soil. That’s what herbivores, omnivores, and carnivores eat. That’s where fungus exists, where life, death, decay, and new life can form. That’s what we’re losing.

There’s also a myriad of other global crises that we have to address and acknowledge that point back to how we practice agriculture on, again, this unbelievably massive scale at a global level. It’s water issues, both in terms of toxins in our waters, but in terms of losing access to water for these areas that grow our food. It’s floods because the land is unhealthy, it can’t make effective use of rain. We have disrupted weather patterns and it’s droughts because we’re not holding moisture in our systems and have disrupted weather.

It’s pollinators dying off which are central to creating our food. It’s dead zones in oceans from all of this runoff of these toxins, which are limiting our ability to produce food from our oceans. There are many other consequences of this. People talk about carbon issues and we talked about food security, but there are many major things going on, which all point back to one common theme, and it’s agriculture. It’s the consequences of this oversimplified system.

Back to your question about regenerative and what is it and what are the principles of it, it’s looking at and acknowledging reality and learning from our mistakes. Despite our great intentions for feeding a growing population of people, what can we learn and do better to make sure that we can do that, not just feed them, but feed them quality food in a way that will last for generations to come? Can we look to the wisdom and the lessons of nature to find the system that we can emulate to do that? That’s effectively what regenerative agriculture is in its simplest form. There are key principles that can help frame up the discussion and give some context if we elaborate.

You cannot get to these solutions or soilutions, as they say, quick enough. Hearing you describe what we’ve done to the Earth honestly makes my heart feel heavy.

They say what you do to the Earth, you do to yourself. The Earth is a super organism, and we’re a part of it. This reductionist view focuses on only what’s easy to control, and essentially cast aside everything which is challenging or more difficult to understand and control. The expense of doing that is causing irreparable harm to ourselves and our global community of biology and animals in life as we know it.

What you do to the earth, you do to yourself.

I hate to paint such an extreme and perilous picture, but that is the reality of the destination that we’re headed towards. I don’t want to say that while also removing hope from the equation, because we have such a tremendous opportunity to adjust this and for hope to support a better system. As long as we can create awareness that these issues exist, then we can give consumers access to an alternative.

It reminds me a little bit of the faith circles my husband and I run in where they say, “You have to understand the bad news before you can understand the good news.”

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I want to get to the good news. Talk to us about those five principles of soil health and how regenerative agriculture contributes to those.

A subtle shift in mindset and how you think about success, and in practices on the actual land. The five principles of soil health are pretty straightforward. The first one is to limit disturbance. That’s chemical and mechanical disturbance. That’s tilling and tearing up massive amounts of land and disrupting the life and the biology and the cycles that are existing. That’s spraying chemicals, fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides, fungicides on the land that target for some intended outcomes, but have a whole litany of unintended outcomes.

I’ve heard of a book called The One-Straw Revolution. I’ve heard of farmers who practice a ‘no till’ method. Tilling in of itself, even without the additive fertilizers and such, is not good for the Earth. This is a shocking revelation for some of us.

It’s terrible for the Earth. Some would say it’s as bad if not worse than the applications of chemicals. We know less about the soil beneath our feet than we know about the oceans or the rainforests, and yet it is that soil that we rely on to live and all life relies on. If we don’t demonstrate a respect and an appreciation for that complexity, the thing that feeds us, we risk losing it. That’s what we’re seeing. We’re seeing organic matter levels decline. We’re seeing soil function decline. We’re seeing soil lost to rain and wind erosion and so on. The truth is we need to be investing. It is a resource and it is finite if we don’t allow it to fulfill its potential. These principles are designed to say, “How do we respect soil?” Healthy ecosystems rely on soil and are a reflection of the land beneath them. We start on the foundations.

Number one is to avoid the tilling and the additive of all these chemical fertilizers and things that are damaging the Earth and its life. What’s number two?

The second one is to armor the soil. That sounds pretty aggressive and hardcore, but the truth is the environments can be a harsh place. When you have tilled soil and it’s exposing bare ground, that ground oxidizes, which releases carbon into the atmosphere. We’re all carbon-based life. Releasing carbon into the atmosphere means life is dying. Soil should be rich with life. It exposes it to that erosion, the wind erosion, the rain erosion we talked about. We risk losing it. It exposes it to massive heat extremes. It can be above the temperature of a well-cooked steak. Above the temperature that kills pathogens for food safety, it’s killing the life in the soil, and similarly can freeze in the winter.

Even as simple as something as it raining. The terminal velocity of a rain drop can compact the surface of the soil making a crust, which makes it less able to absorb rain, make effective use of rain, and then promotes those issues of weather and drought and flood, and so on and so forth. Letting things live on the land year-round and leaving leaf litter and organic matter on the ground to cover it protects it from so many of these things. It’s a necessary part of the cycle of life.

It’s a natural armor. What’s number three?

Number three is living roots and green growing plants year-round. All life on Earth relies on the soil like we talked about, but the fuel for all life on Earth and including the soil is the sun. It’s the most powerful energy source in the solar system. We all rely on it. The way that powers and creates the incredible potential of our soil is through roots of plants and photosynthesis. The sun doesn’t go through the top layer of the soil. How does it get down there? We have this incredible process of photosynthesis that takes carbon dioxide and energy of the sun, and drops carbon into the ground for life to exist and release oxygen out for all of us to breathe. Those roots also are not just dropping carbon in there, but they’re dropping nitrogen if they’re certain types of plants.

They’re helping to create aggregate structures in our soil so water can infiltrate and reach deeper and deeper to allow those nutrient and energy cycles to exist and improve and increase the potential of the land. We can’t do that if there’s not living plants. Tilling disrupts the soil, but it also kills all life above the soil. It’s killing the plants that are doing photosynthesis and killing and disrupting their root structure, and so on and so forth.

We need to let nature and biology and life thrive year-round in order to benefit from what land and what plants and animals were put here to do. The fourth principle is diversity. Nowhere in nature is there a monoculture. There’s always diversity. There’s always a balance of opposing forces and a cycle that is natural.

This brings me to an area that I get to talk about a lot running a meat company, but this is not about plant-based agriculture versus meat-based agriculture. This is about planet-based agriculture, which means plants and animals functioning in harmony. It means celebrating and recognizing the beauty and the power of nature and how we intentionally manage our lands. Different species of plants have different jobs and different important roles, as do different species of insects and animals. How do we create diversity in these systems?

It also has the side effect and positive consequence of creating diversity for food production people. If you have crops throughout the year, you have multiple revenue streams that are protected against weather patterns or other forces that you can’t control. When you’re building resiliency into the land, you’re building resiliency into communities, and then also will start producing healthier food and things like that.

Planet-based agriculture, I love the sound of that. Tell us what is principle number five?

Principle number five is animal impact. They call these megafaunas like bison keystone species for a reason. It’s because they have a disproportionately profound impact on the systems that they’re a part of. Meaning bison here in the United States would have existed in numbers of 40 million to 60 million or more. They’re a small number of that now, but they would’ve roamed from Mexico to Canada. They wouldn’t have had fences and private property and different things impeding their progress.

They would have herds of millions of animals impacted land in such a way that all the life on that land would’ve evolved around the patterns of those animals, up to and including little frogs that only exist in the ponds formed by the wallows of those bison, and certain species of birds and mice that rely on their fur to nest. We have to allow for those important functions to exist in our food production systems, whether plant or animal agriculture and vice versa in order to produce healthy ecosystems, which are then necessary to produce healthy food for us.

As you’re describing this, I’m thinking how beautiful the natural choreography of nature is and how sad that we’ve gotten so far removed from this that you even have to describe what it should look like.

It’s funny you say natural choreography. It’s a beautiful way to describe it, but the truth is that would imply too much order. Nature is chaotic, but there is so much complexity and abundance and diversity to it that it’s confined and controlled in a seemingly choreographed and organized way. An example of how that might be celebrated would be insects. People spray pesticides onto crops to try to eliminate undesirable pest species. The truth is there are billions of insects per acre, and you’re selectively eliminating all of them from an area when you spray so that you can control against one thing.

The truth is you’re eliminating all of the natural predators, thousands of species of insects that would keep that one undesirable species in check. You eliminate any potential or capacity for that to happen. What you do then is open the door for these plagues in an incredible overcorrection of the pendulum toward the opposite of the effect you’re trying to produce. It’s that chaos that creates the impression of order when you let it do its job.

I can’t help but think of the parallel of patients with cancer going through chemotherapy and radiation. Radiation can be targeted, but chemotherapy courses through the veins, this poison throughout the body trying to kill the cancer cells. In the process, they’re killing healthy cells as well much to their detriment.

Also antibiotics. The fact that we have more non-human cells and human cells in our body, and much of them are controlling our behavior through production of hormones in our gut and the biome. If we’re not careful, we unselectively nuke that incredible flora. There are unintended consequences. The same thing can be said for our agriculture system and those broader systems that function the same as we do. We’re all biology.

What would you say to the person who’s like, “Regenerative agriculture is another buzz word like sustainability?” What would you say to the skeptic who’s like, “This guy’s overthinking it?”

I would try to say a lot because it’s an important part of the conversation to have. I’d ask if they continue to stay a part of the conversation because we need that intention behind it in questioning. Too often, we don’t question what we’re told in here. We need to be pushed and held accountable. I don’t want to disparage the importance of organic and some of these other things that you talked about, this idea of sustainability. They’ve been key milestones in the journey that we’re on, but we’re on a journey. It has to improve. We are racing towards a cliff. We talked about that FAO report and all these global crises that we’re facing. We’re racing towards a cliff.

This idea of sustainability, slowing you down doesn’t change the outcome. You’re still headed for the cliff. We need a course correction. We don’t need to overreact and panic, but we need to at least acknowledge it and begin putting thought and effort into how we improve it, and recognize that that doesn’t happen without consumers like this consumer that you represented.

One way or another, as consumers, we are entirely complicit in whatever system we support through our purchasing behavior. It’s a hard thing to say because we like to not show up for elections because we want to throw our hands up and say, “I don’t have a dog in the fight.” That’s fine, but if you’re buying food and you’re purchasing clothing and other things, you are supporting those systems.

What I am encouraging and trying to drive home is I want people to be aware of what they’re supporting. I don’t want to tell somebody what to think. I don’t want to tell them what values they should have. We need diversity in those things. They should have access to the information so they can be making the right choices for them. Right now, the system is entirely designed to misdirect or deceive them. That’s what we’re trying to take a stand against.

The thing to do too is get more information, but maybe get our hands dirty, dare I say. Meet a farmer, look for a farm that is doing this regenerative ag carbon sequestering farming that is so necessary for the course correction you’ve described.

That’s a challenging thing to do, but the way you start doing that is to stay informed and educate yourself. We hope that we, as Force of Nature, can be a key thought leader in that conversation and a space for folks to come to get some awareness to diverse ideas and concepts and issues in food. I hope we can earn their trust.

We have to be more proactive. The power of change is entirely in the hands of consumers. It’s an awesome power if we wield it correctly. We’ve seen it happen time and time again. We wouldn’t be here in America having this conversation if some folks didn’t wield that power in a way to take a stand to tyranny and create a better way of running a country and living life.

We’re no more or less capable of driving that short of change now. Nobody is going to make food that consumers aren’t going to buy. Right now, we have a system that has consumers serving it. We are a part of the machine. We are taking what it’s willing to give us, how it’s willing to give it to us. We’re consuming away without taking a stand. That is going to change. I want to see it accelerate. We want to be an important part of that change.

We are thankful for the information you’ve given us. I want to wrap up by asking you the final question I often pose on the show. Since you are so connected with nature, with your place in it, if the reader could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

The answer to that question is to take a more active role in their health by peeling the layers back and forming again and celebrating a relationship with their food. We cannot delegate that relationship to unknown sources. That is what commodification does and is. That results in the unintended consequences that we’ve seen. You should be asking questions about where your food comes from. You should be asking questions about the implication of that system. You should be demanding that transparency.

You should be pursuing systems that are making the changes and operating with the goals and driving the outcomes that excite you and inspire you to be happily a part of it. You’re a part of it. Let’s make sure it’s something that you’re proud of. Educate yourself, align with like-minded folks, and make a difference in the way that is authentic and aligned with who you are and what change you want to see in the world.

Powerful words to end on. Robby, thank you so much for your time, for the information, and for your passion and your heart. We appreciate you.

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate you as well. I’m a fan of the show and the organization. I’m excited to continue to work together.

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About Robby Sansom

Robby Sansom is the co-founder and CEO of Force of Nature Meats. He is also a land steward who has spent over a decade studying regenerative agriculture. He suggests that our only path forward is “with” nature, not “against” it. Robby has helped create a global regenerative supply network, partnering with land stewards, ranchers and farmers committed to creating a positive return on the planet. Through regenerative agriculture, consumers now have the ability to invest in environmental regeneration by consuming meat that is good for the planet.