Most scientific journals suggest that vaccines are safe and effective. Many medical personnel say the same. Why would anyone question the “party line”? Is any information missing from the narrative we generally hear around this topic? Today, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., environmental attorney and the founder of the Children’s Health Defense, peels back the curtain on vaccine information.
He starts with the development of the fast-tracked coronavirus vaccine and what early results show (hint: not as promising as Moderna touted them to be). He reveals why we don’t hear more about vaccine risks in the media and what influences the studies that actually get published in medical journals. He reviews the ingredients of vaccines and their side effects which include food allergies, behavior issues, and more serious health concerns including ADD, ADHD, Tourette’s syndrome, narcolepsy, juvenile diabetes, and more. Finally, he encourages us to examine the facts closely ourselves, rather than accepting the vaccine orthodoxy of our day.
Highlights from the conversation include:
- Moderna’s recent press release on their coronavirus vaccine
- Why the information it contained is more alarming than promising
- The MRNA-type vaccine contains genetic material that alters DNA
- Safety studies were skipped for this vaccine and human trials have begun
- There are no studies showing that vaccinated individuals are healthier than unvaccinated
- – Why the media does not allow this type of dialogue
- How 17 of 22 ads on network news are for pharmaceutical drugs
- The ability of pharmaceutical companies to not only advertise but control content on the news
- How only the U.S. and New Zealand permit pharmaceutical advertising direct to the consumer
- How the Cochrane Collaboration was established to oversee and critically review the work published in scientific journals
- To prevent one case of flu, 100 people need the shot and there is zero evidence that any deaths or hospitalizations were prevented
- And zero evidence it lessened mortality rate for the elderly (but since there’s universal coverage of the flu vaccine for the elderly, deaths have increased dramatically)
- How if you get the flu vaccine, you’re six times more likely to spread it to another person
- The flu vaccine does not prevent the flu (though we’ve had the vaccine for 9 years)
- In January 2020, the Pentagon published a study by Wolfe. Soldiers who had the flu shot were 36% more likely to get an upper respiratory tract infection (like the coronavirus)
- The definition of “pathogenic priming” and its devastating effects on immune responses
- How mercury was taken out of pediatric vaccines in this country (but is still in the vaccines given to children in Africa, Asia, and Latin America)
- How mercury has been replaced in many cases by aluminum (which is also neuro-toxic)
- The dangerous combination of aluminum and mercury
- How no studies have been done on the long-term effects of adjuvants like mercury and aluminum
- The difference between “live” and “dead” virus vaccines
- 70% of the polio vaccines on earth, according to the W.H.O., are from Bill Gates’ oral polio vaccine
- How a whole generation of children have chronic conditions: ADD, ADHD, tics, Tourette’s syndrome, narcolepsy, autism, arthritis, juvenile diabetes, allergies
- How aluminum causes allergies (and is used to give lab rats allergies)
- Why it’s so difficult to speak up against vaccines
- How misogyny is a piece of the puzzle in the discourse about vaccines
- the growing number of vaccine skeptics (20% of the population)
- Is there a place to live that is free from the pressures of vaccination?
- How we can respond to those with a different viewpoint
- What motivates Robert to fight for children’s health
- How we can we protect ourselves from the proposed mandated vaccines programs
- Pharmaceuticals may be sued for adverse reactions for every drug but not for vaccines
- Sanofi, Pfizer, Merck, GlaxoSmithKlein are all convicted felons, having paid billions in fines for fraud, bribery, and more
- In 2006, Merck had to pay billions in court for Vioxx* – a pill they marketed to help with headaches that killed 120-500K Americans by heart attack
*Vioxx was licensed as a COX 2 inhibitor, which at the times was a relatively new class of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS, second only to Celebrex) used to treat pain due to inflammation.It was marketed heavily as being safer than traditional NSAIDs like Advil and Motrin because it has fewer gastrointestinal effects and bleeding. While it is best known for being prescribed for arthritis pain and inflammation, it was also used for management of short-term pain in adults, treatment of dysmenorrhea (menstrual cramps) and also migraine headaches.
Children Health Defense website: childrenshealthdefense.org w/ 1400 studies listed on the website about vaccine safety/studies
Cochrane Collaboration website: cochrane.org
Food allergy Initiative – food advocacy group – http://www.faiusa.org
Pub Med – where studies are published – https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vaccine brochure from WAPF
Hey Hilda here. Most scientific journals suggest that vaccines are safe and effective. Medical personnel say the same thing. Why would anyone question the party line? Is any information missing from the narrative that we generally hear around this topic? This is Episode 246 and our guest today is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Robert is a well-known and well-regarded attorney, the founder of the Children’s Health Defense and an expert on the topic of vaccines. Today he peels back the curtain on vaccine information. He starts with the development of the fast-tracked corona virus vaccine and what early results show. He explains the difference between a dead virus vaccine and a live virus vaccine. He reveals why we don’t hear more about vaccine risks in general and what influences the studies that actually get published in medical journals. He reviews the ingredients of vaccines and their effect on the general population, including their relationship to food allergies, behavior issues and more serious health concerns. Finally, Robert speaks to the likelihood of the development of a truly safe vaccine. Before we get into the conversation, a quick thank you to our sponsors. Green Pasture Products-if you are looking for a way to help fill nutritional gaps in your diet and give your immune system a boost check out Green Pastures Products. Their Fermented Cod Liver Oil and high vitamin butter oil are a great, natural source of Vitamins A and D as well as Omega Fatty Acids. Boost your health today; visit GreenPasture.org and place your order.
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This is Holistic Hilda, and you’re listening to Wise Traditions.
HLG: Welcome to Wise Traditions, Robert.
RFK: Thank you.
HLG: Goodness, we wanted to have you on because there is so much happening and happening so quickly. We’ve heard a lot about the development of a corona virus vaccine. Particularly yesterday they were talking about promising results from the use of this vaccine that Moderna is developing. Can you speak to that? Is this something we should look forward to?
RFK: Well (you know) we have to look at vaccines one at a time and there’s a general challenge with corona virus vaccines that nobody has been able to get around, and I’ll get to that in a minute. The Moderna vaccine issued a press release and it was kind of a swallow of the hook, line and sinker by the networks. All five networks followed the press release which said it essentially sold the clinical trials, the initial results from the clinical trials that was a huge triumph for Moderna. None of them actually appears to even have read the press release critically. Moderna did not release the raw data or the actual study. There was enough information in that press release to indicate they have a very, very serious problem with that vaccine. Let me tell you what those signals are. This is the vaccine that is the great hope. (Right) Because it is an animal RNA vaccine. MRNA vaccines (the ones where you don’t actually) it alters human DNA to get your individual cells to start producing antibody for the virus and so it doesn’t require huge production facilities; they are not the kind of production where you are growing virus on, which is very painstaking, on a series of different animals: ?? rats (6:53), you grow it on penguins, then you grow it on dog tissue, then you grow in on barrel monkey kidneys and then you transfer it to lung tissue, and do all that which is time consuming and it requires a lot of room and a lot of materials. The RNA vaccine that is being sold to us by Fauci and Bill Gates has a way to short cut all that and to instantly create vaccines that work. And note that they actually alter your DNA.
HLG: This is not the first RNA vaccine that has been developed, right?
RFK: It’s the first of this generation of RNA vaccines ever developed. The kind that they are talking about, this has not been done before. Although there are some that have kind of were first generation RNA vaccines. This one is the one that actually alters your cells to get your cells to produce a vaccine. This has not been done before. What they did is they used mouse trials but they never reported a safety study for the mice. The Mouse trials were really efficacy trials. They were just looking for sero-conversion. In other words, they were looking for whether or not they could make the mice produce antibodies using this RNA path but they
weren’t looking at the health of the mice, and it’s not a good animal to look at anyway. Usually those health studies are done on ferrets and in primates. And particularly for a corona virus upper respiratory, the ferrets are the closest analogy to human studies. And they skipped those. They went right to an RNA vaccine and they went right to human trials. They got 45 volunteers in Seattle and they gave 15 of them low dose, 15 of them the middle dose and 15 of them a high dose. Of the 15 that got the high dose, 3 of them had what was called in the press release serious adverse reactions. There’s an FDA definition for that. It’s an action that requires medical intervention or hospitalization. So, these are really, really serious impacts. The fact that they occurred in 20% of the individuals would make this, if it were any other medication, would be DOA. Nobody would take it. Nobody is going to take a medication for healthy individuals for an illness that you don’t have that could put you in the hospital; one out of every 5 people in the hospital. That’s it. And not only that, these are very healthy people. They only allowed healthy, super healthy people into this study. What happens when you give this to someone who has diabetes, or rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune diseases or any of these other now 54% of the American citizens have a chronic disease which is a comorbidity. And those don’t react well with vaccines. This vaccine should be dead. The initial reports caused Moderna’s stock to spike. Even though the owners of Moderna have been unloading stock all week. They know. Then they endorse it. They said this is a huge triumph and caused it to spike. We put out our own analysis of that and by this afternoon the stocks were already tanking.
HLG: Now when you say you put out your own analysis, are you referring to the Children’s Health Defense?
RFK: Yes, I put it on Instagram this morning.
HLG: OK. And I get what you are saying because you can say you are having positive results if the little mice developed antibodies but that’s not really positive if they are sick. In other words, it’s not really hitting the objective which is to live a long, healthy life.
RFK: Right. And that’s the problem with a lot of the analysis that does not take place with vaccines is that nobody ever looks at whether vaccinated individuals are healthier and longer lived than unvaccinated individuals. There are a few studies where that’s been done. I put about 50 of those on our website. Consistently the unvaccinated people are much, much healthier than the vaccinated and much longer lived.
HLG: But I can’t put my finger on why that information is not getting out to the general public. In other words, why does everyone believe they are safe and effective when in reality they are causing a lot of chronic conditions and illnesses among our children and anybody who is vaccinated.
RFK: That’s the big problem, that you are not allowed to talk about this issue in the media. Part of it is, that particularly in the United States, the big television 11:26, the electronic media and the newspapers are getting huge amounts of revenue from the four vaccine companies and from pharmaceutical advertisers in general. There are only two countries in the world where pharmaceutical companies are allowed to advertise, the right to consumer advertising.
It is illegal in every other country except the United States and New Zealand. We made it legal. FDA, which is owned by Pharma made it legal in 1997. Now you have Anderson Cooper sponsored by Pfizer. You have Aaron Bernett(12:02??) sponsored by Pfizer.
Roger Els (12:04)?? told me that in some years, 70% of Fox’s advertising revenue during the evening news was from pharma. He said that on average 17 of 22 ads on network news comes from pharmaceutical companies. And they are not only able to advertise, but they are also able to dictate content. So, they have made the evening news essentially a vehicle for pharmaceutical marketing and advertising. And that’s why you see, every year you see these big weeks where everybody is talking about the flu vaccine or they talk about the measles vaccine. You got to get your vaccine and gets drilled into us. When nobody is actually looking at the science and saying this vaccine doesn’t work. How does it prevent disease? Of course, Cochrane Collaboration which is the ultimate arbiter of pharmaceutical science. Cochrane Collaboration is a group of 30k scientists who do not have ties to the pharmaceutical industry, the pharmaceutical products that they are reviewing. Cochrane Collaboration was started because there was recognition that the pharmaceutical companies had taken over the scientific journals. And that they basically owned all of the scientific journals and they were able to publish only science. The scientific journals themselves all admit this, that very, very little of the science is actually …… (13:30) is what’s coming out of the medical journals, the scientific journals.
Cochrane Collaboration was funded to remedy that by overlooking the pharma industry science and critically reviewing it. They have reviewers that look at the selected articles and the selected themes. In 2010 and 2017 Cochrane reviewed all the articles on the flu vaccine. I think in 2010 there were 247 articles that they looked at. They came back with a series of conclusions. Number 1. In order to prevent a single case of flu, you have to inoculate 100 people. This is very, very low efficacy on flu vaccines. Nothing like the industry like you to think. 100 vaccines to prevent one case of flu and there was zero evidence that there were any deaths prevented or any hospitalizations prevented. The whole rationale of the flu vaccine is that it would prevent deaths in the elderly and when Cochrane said and the BMJ, the British Medical Journal, did its own research, a scientist, an editor name Peter Doshi. And what they said is that there is zero evidence that it prevents deaths among the elderly. In fact, since the flu vaccine got universal coverage in the elderly. Deaths in the elderly have increased dramatically. Lifetime mortality has risen and life expectancy has declined. This flu vaccine has had no beneficial effect.
Cochrane has had a number of other studies. If you get the flu vaccine you are much more likely to transmit the flu to other people. You are 6 times more likely than an unvaccinated person. So, the other rationale of the flu vaccine is that it will reduce transmission. But that is definitely not true; it actually increases transmission.
HG: Yeah, there are just all these slogans on a bus stop near my house that say “Spread love, not the flu.” And they make it seem like it’s very altruistic of us to get the vaccine. But it sounds like somebody has bought a lot of ads, and even some of the media is kind of captured by the pharma dollars and this is influencing what we hear.
RFK: They’re not kind of captured, they are altogether captured.
HG: So this is really alarming. And what you are saying about the flu vaccine is particularly pertinent right now because some people see a parallel between how we were told the flu vaccine would help eradicate flu and we are being told that the coronavirus vaccine is our only hope.
RFK: And you know, there’s a cognitive dissonance there too. Because we’ve had a flu vaccine for 90 years. And yet, it only gives an advantage to one person in 100, but it does not prevent the flu. Many people, and everybody knows this, incidentally but anecdotally who get the flu vaccine also get the flu, and oftentimes they are worse flu. And that’s just not anecdotal. There’s study after study, and this is one of the things that the Cochrane Collaboration said; that the studies suggest that you are much more likely to get a non-flu upper respiratory infection like corona virus if you have had a flu shot. And the Pentagon published a study in January of this year. The author of the study is Wolfe. January 2017 (16:42) The Pentagon wanted to see if the flu shot was effective against coronavirus. So they gave the flu shot to a lot of soldiers and then there was a control group that didn’t get it and they watched what happened. They found that the soldiers who got the flu shot are 36% more likely to get a coronavirus than soldiers who did not. That’s not an outlier study. We publish on Children’s Health Defense website on whole, six other studies, some of them very, very strong.
They indicate that people who get the flu shot are more likely to get coronavirus or an upper respiratory viral infection like coronavirus. It appears to damage your immune response. It’s called pathogenic priming, and it actually, it appears to prime your system to get other illnesses. It may protect you against a certain strain of flu, but it makes it much more likely, at least what the science indicates, to get other non-influenza infections.
HG: So, I’m thinking about how a lot of vaccines include adjuvants that are kind of irritants and cause the body to have this immune response that the vaccine is kind of looking for and that can lead to complicated health concerns and results. I know for a time we were greatly advocating for mercury to be taken out of vaccines, and I think to a large extent it has. And yet there’s still aluminum, formaldehyde, glyphosate, other ingredients that are very problematic in vaccines, right?
RFK: Mercury was taken out of the pediatric vaccines in this country, not in other countries. We still give them to poor countries, African, Asian, and Latin American countries. They were taken out of the HIB vaccine, Hepatitis B and the DTAP vaccines in our country. The same year 2003, that they took them out, CDC mandated the flu vaccine for pregnant women and for children from 6 months of age and every year thereafter and that flu vaccine was loaded with mercury, huge levels, 25 micrograms of mercury, and is 25 times the EPA’s maximum safe level. And it’s given not once. But it’s given to little babies while they are in their mother’s wombs when they are most vulnerable and their brains are still forming. And then it’s given every year of life. So no, we never had a break from mercury. But right, they did replace mercury in some of those vaccines, the adjuvant with aluminum, which is not as neurotoxic, but it is horrendously neurotoxic. Mercury is actually the most neuro-toxic element in the universe that we know about that is not radioactive. The aluminum is not quite, but almost as neurotoxic as mercury. When it combines with mercury it has a synergistic effect that makes it more neurotoxic than either of them alone. And it often is combined. Because if your child goes in and gets an aluminum vaccine, DTAP, HIB, or Hepatitis B, and the doctor gives him a flu vaccine the same wellness visit, which is routine, then he’s getting mercury and aluminum the same day and that’s horrendous for him. Now the reason they put adjuvants in shots is because they realized from the polio vaccine when you give a live virus vaccine, the virus goes through the human body and mutates and ends up in the feces or in other waste and that can pass that virus on to other people. But not only that, as it mutates going through the body it can become more virulent and more dangerous and more lethal. Today 70% of the polio cases on earth are coming from Bill Gates’ oral polio vaccine. This is according to the WHO. Vaccine itself can spread the disease. Live virus vaccines like the Chicken Pox vaccine, like the MMR vaccine, like the Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis vaccines all spread the disease. If you get a flu vaccine, you are 6 times more likely to pass the flu on. If you get a Chicken Pox vaccine, on the manufacturer’s insert it says “do not go near pregnant women for 6 weeks or for people who are immune-compromised” because you are shedding that virus for 6 weeks. Early on the regulators expressed a preference for dead virus vaccines, which do not do that. The problem is the dead virus vaccines do not provide the kind of robust and durable immune response that scientists or that the FDA requires to get a license, a vaccine license. Vaccinologists very early on discovered that if they added something horrendously toxic to the vaccine it shocks your body. And your body, your immune system associates the antigen, that fragment of the dead microbe, the dead virus with the toxic adjuvant and says this thing is really dangerous and I need to mount a huge immune response if I ever see it again. They can prolong the immune response and make it more robust if they put something really, really dangerous in the vaccine; very, very toxic. They begin experimenting with really toxic things like oil, like squalene and they found the most toxic things were mercury and aluminum. And so, they began adding that to the vaccines and the vaccinologists or immunologists, were generally speaking, neurologists. They weren’t biologists or toxicologists. There’s kind of a war between toxicologists and virologists because the toxicologists would say, “wait a minute, you’re getting the immune response and you’re getting a license. What is the fate of that element, of that metal after it gives you the immune response? Where’s it going?” And the virologists said “Don’t worry about it. We don’t care where it’s going. That’s going to be a long-term issue.” There was never any science that said let’s look at what’s happening to all these horribly toxic things they are putting in the vaccines and whether those things are causing long term problems in these children. Those studies were never done. Now we have these vaccines that are loaded with things, aluminum. We have kids who are getting Alzheimer’s when they are 10 years old. We have a whole generation of children who have neuro-developmental disorders. 54% of kids now have a chronic disease. They have ADD, ADHD, tics, which we didn’t know of before these vaccines. Tourette’s syndrome, narcolepsy, AST, Autism. We have auto-immune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis ………..(23:27)
And all the allergic diseases of course. Aluminum causes allergies. My kids all have allergies. Nobody had an allergy when I was a kid. I have 11 brothers and sisters, 70 cousins on both sides. None of them had food allergies; my children have food allergies, and they’re in every class. Why is that? It’s because of the aluminum in the vaccines. And I was one of the founders of the Food Allergy Initiative, which is now the biggest food allergy advocacy group in the world. We raise hundreds of millions of dollars to study food allergies and the scientists who we brought on and gave grants to were studying how do we fix food allergy. They weren’t looking at, nobody wants to look at where they are coming from, because they know they are coming from the vaccines. Well, the way that they test medications and therapies for food allergies is they give food allergies to rats and then they test the medications and the cures on the rats. How do they give a food allergy to a rat? Very simple. You take aluminum adjuvant, the same ones in the Hepatitis B vaccine, DTAP and HIB vaccines and you combine it with a protein, like a peanut protein or whatever allergy you are trying to induce. And that rat now has a peanut allergy for life. That’s how they induce peanut allergies. That’s how they induce food allergies. If you are putting that aluminum into a vaccine and there is also already an animal protein in there, which there are in most vaccines; they are made on animal sub strains. There’s casein, there’s lactose. You wonder where all the lactose intolerance comes from and allergies. What about the casein allergies? If there happens to be, now we know, Timothy weed outbreak, the week that you gave your vaccine, you are now going to have a permanent allergy to timothy weeds, which is why vaccinated children have thirty times the rate of allergic rhinitis as unvaccinated children. The virologists who are developing these, people like Tony Fauci are completely immune, let’s say, to looking at these connections. They just won’t do it. They are pretending that they don’t exist. And it’s kind of a magical thinking on their part; you could take an entire generation of children and inject them with the most neurotoxic elements in the universe, added hundreds of times the levels that EPA says is safe and that you’re not going to have an effect. You have an effect and we are watching it all around us now. We are the sickest generation in history with the highest level of chronic disease in any generation in the industrial world.
HG: Coming up. Robert suggests how to communicate this information to friends and loved ones. He also talks about what drives him to speak out on this very controversial issue.
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HLG: I’ve gotten a lot of folks asking me “Hilda, what can we do to convince our family members, our friends, who really have bought the standard line that vaccines are fine. How can we kind of wake them up. What do you do Robert when you’re trying to persuade someone or talk to someone who has a completely different viewpoint?
RFK: Well, you know, anybody who has an open mind, I can convince that there is a problem in maybe 15 minutes. The problem is then they go back out into the world and they encounter all of this extreme hostility. It’s not like they get to debate it. They are told by their doctor “leave” if you’re going to bring that up. They are told by the press “you’re crazy, you’re dangerous. This is dangerous stuff that you’re talking about.” So those people, even if they have doubts, they are not going to talk as openly about them because the consequence of speaking openly about this issue are enormous. You know, for your life. And people don’t want to do that.
RFK: That’s really the problem. If somebody has an open mind, they will quickly be convinced just by looking at the evidence. But a lot of people don’t want to look at evidence. Orthodoxy is a biological impulse.
HLG: right, right. (30:06)
RFK: It’s just part of who we are. It was a beneficial asset during the 20,000 generations that our species was wandering the African savannahs and the small warring groups. It was good follow as you ……(30:18) add a sense of cohesion, to not express doubts about the plans or whatever or the cosmology. And that people, who, you know, that it was ok to harm people who didn’t believe what you believed in. And that anybody who did you should not be questioned or criticized. 30:40…………
And the strong man and subjugate woman. And that’s what the vaccine orthodoxy is all about. It begins with misogyny. It begins with the willingness to dismiss the stories of a million women who say “I gave my child a vaccine and he was never the same. There’s a million women in our country who say that, and you know, we’re supposed to be listening to women now. We are supposed to be standing up to bullies, but that’s not what’s happening. We have an entire orthodoxy that says these women have been deluded; they don’t know what they are talking about; misled by the British Svengali named Wakefield. He’s taken all these poor, ignorant women who are grieved by the loss of their child and he’s been like the Pied Piper and led them astray, and now we need to bring them back with real science. Nobody is listening to them.
HLG: Right. Oh my gosh.
RFK: And those mothers know what happened to their babies.
HLG: Ok, so let’s say I’m one of those moms and I’m like ok. I want to protect my family from further damage and I understand there is a movement to make this coronavirus vaccine mandatory. How likely do you see that?
RFK: I think there are going to be efforts to do that, certainly. It’s interesting what’s happening, because the people who were vaccine hesitant, that were questioning vaccines, it was only 2-3% of the population and now it seems to have gone up to 20%. Its growth is, I’m not going to say its exponential, but even nature, which is very right in the middle of the vaccine camp study this week, in which they looked at the growth of vaccine hesitancy and skepticism. And what they found was nobody goes from being a vaccine skeptic back into the orthodoxy.
(32:36)……….kind of capture the bulk of people who are undecided, that it’s almost all won by hard science.
People ultimately will listen to evidence. These mothers saw what happened to their children and then they went on the internet and you know people say “oh well they are getting information from the internet.” Yes, they are, from PubMed. PubMed is where all the peer reviewed studies are published. It’s on the internet. These mothers are reading it. They’re not just reading garbage blogs from some guy who doesn’t know, you know some guy that’s locked in his mother’s basement. That’s what it’s making it sound like, like a 30-year-old that is living in his mother’s basement and trying to delude all these women.
What they are really doing is going on PubMed which is a site that’s operated by NIH. It’s an archive of all the scientific, peer reviewed scientific literature. And you can go on there and you start looking at vaccine literature and you can learn a lot. We then archive those on our website at Children’s Health Defense. We have about 1400 studies listed on our website, and we teach you how to read them critically. We teach you how we’ll track CDC studies. CDC has a tiny handful of studies on gradesouth and these studies say everything is safe. And we say do they really? How come they are only for one vaccine, the MMR. How come you have never once looked at a vaccinated group and compared its outcomes to an unvaccinated group? All 17 of their studies compare heavily vaccinated populations to heavily vaccinated populations.
It would be like studying the link between lung cancer and the cigarettes by looking at people who smoked 20 cigarettes a day for 20 years and comparing them to people who smoked 22 cigarettes a day for 20 years. If you want to know the answer that is not how you do it. You look at people who have never smoked any cigarettes. And that has never been done.
HLG: Right! I’ve heard, for example, when they have some of these studies, they say they are giving a placebo to let’s say, some of the animals and not to the other ones that get the vaccine.
But the placebo actually has some of these adjuvants and things in there that will cause a similar reaction. Is that what I hear you saying?
RFK: part of licensing, you’re supposed to use an inert less system. Even Stanley Podkins (35:03) said if you don’t use an inert placebo, it’s not science, it’s marketing. If you want to know the safety profile of an exposure you need to measure health effects in an exposed population against an unexposed population. And what they do, is they measure, they never use an inert less placebo. Placebo, by the way is defined by the CDC as something that has no effect on the human body. They don’t do that. They use aluminum adjuvants. They use some of the most toxic neurotoxic elements of the universe and they will give that to 5000 girls and they will give the vaccine to 5000 girls. As long as the vaccine out performs the neurotoxin in the amount of sickness it produces they say “oh it’s a great success.” All they have to do is make sure they kill more people with the placebo than they do with the vaccine. And that’s what they do. When they tested the HPV vaccine, the Gardasil vaccine. When Merck tested it they gave the girls in the control group horrendously toxic aluminum adjuvant, pure aluminum. Those girls in that group they had nine deaths and they had nine deaths in the vaccine group. So, they said “Oh it’s the placebo, therefore it’s safe.” It’s not safe.
HLG: I was thinking about what you said a moment ago about how people who dare to question are bucking the orthodoxy and it makes me think of you. What keeps you speaking out on this topic Robert when you’re risking your reputation and a lot of other things as well.
RFK: You know, I don’t even know that I have a choice. The two things are the two.
When I started reading the science, I saw what they were doing to kids and I realized the implications and I was like what am I going to do? I’m seeing kids who have severe autism and they don’t have a moment of comfort in their lives. Their lives are just a nightmare of darkness, of unjoylessness: in most cases, these are kids that will never have a conversation. They will never take a girl on a date. They will never be in the army. They will never write a poem. They’ll l never hit a home run in a baseball game. They’ll never vote or run for political office. Half of them will never use a toilet.
These are kids would have been outstanding members of our society in many cases. Many of them were kids who prior to getting their vaccines were exceeding their milestones. They were way ahead of their peers. These would have been exceptional children in many, many cases and we took that away from them and we sentenced them to a lifetime that’s worse than death. It’s worse than hell. Their headbanging and spinning, and their constant agony, and gut problems. Their brains hurt and burn all day long. And they have so much of it they try to bang their heads against the wall to stop the pain. They do that day after day. They have to wear permanent helmets and can’t speak. I’ve never met somebody my age; I’ve been around intellectual disabilities my whole life. I’ve never met a single person like that my age and it’s not like they are being in institutions somewhere. There are institutions that are housing
They say for my generation, the science says 1 in 10,000. But I don’t even believe it’s that common because I’ve never met anybody like that. And I worked at …. home (38:47) for the retarded throughout high school and I was raised in special Olympics. I’ve never met anybody my age who looks like that; like a kid today who has severe autism. And today its 1 in every 34 kids; 1 in every 22 boys. That’s what we did, we did that to those children. I don’t feel that I have a choice. If I could save one child from that it would be worth me giving up everything.
HLG: I know a lot of people who feel similarly. I know people who are ready to move their whole family to another country. They said “please ask Robert if there’s a place we can move to go to be safe.”
RFK: There’s no place to go. There are countries like Sweden that do not mandate vaccines but very few of them. Even Denmark I think already passed a law that says when we get a Covid vaccine, everybody’s got to take it. Even civilized countries or countries that we once regarded as civilized have been caught up in the hysteria, and that’s, you know, how can you mandate a medical pharmaceutical product that has never been tested. Nobody knows whether it works. Nobody knows whether it’s going to kill more people or cause more deaths.
HLG: Let’s talk to somebody. Let’s say they are living in a country that’s definitely said that they we are going to have mandatory vaccinations. What action can they take now to prevent that from happening to them and their family?
RFK: They’ve got to get politically involved. We’ve got to stop being silent. We’ve got to stop being contaminated. You need to carry cards on you and have a list of vaccine injuries. You see a mother walking on the sidewalk with a baby or a pregnant woman, hand it to her. And talk to your doctor; talk to the nurse. Make them confront it. They’ve been able to silence us for too long and we, everybody, has got to stand up and be counted. You’ve got to talk to your neighbors even when they don’t want to talk to you. Talk to people who used to be hostile to you and let’s deal with the hostility. We are making cards for people that they can hand out at Children’s Health Defense. You can order those cards from us and carry them on you and do a civic duty. If you see a woman who’s pregnant or who’s pushing a stroller hand her the cards. They have a list of all the vaccine side effects listed by the manufacturers. We have other cards that show the lack of testing, and it’s all science based. The doctors aren’t telling them that and you need to start telling them that and start educating the people. We need more and more people. Getting up to around the 20% conversion rate is high. People are listening to it now because they are watching these Covid vaccines get made and they are going to be able to see how the sausage gets made for the first time. None of these vaccines have ever been made in the sunlight before. And, you know, if you’ve got a problem with cockroaches the way that you solve it is daylight. We’ve got a big cockroach problem in the vaccine industry, and if all we need to do is shine some sunlight on it and they are all going to go running for cover. Because they can’t survive it; they can’t survive scrutiny.
HLG: Oh my gosh, that’s such a good word. And I’m thinking back to when you said if you had 15 minutes that you could share information to someone with an open mind that they would be persuaded. Is what is on those cards, Robert, what you would share in those 15 minutes probably?
RFK: A lot of it. It’s enough to get people to start asking questions. Here’s the vaccine ingredients that your child is going to get in their first five months of life insect parts and virile monkey kidneys, and cocker spaniel parts and DNA from a baby who was forcibly aborted from a woman who was forcibly confined to a mental institution in 1966, and then made carcinogenic; make it immortal. That’s what they grow the vaccines on.
DNA from that baby, which is male DNA is going to be injected into your female baby. Nobody knows what that does. Nobody knows if you take a woman or a child that may have heritable, inherited mental illnesses and you inject them into people. That’s in our vaccines. And DNA has been cut up in fragments and put into our vaccines. Nobody knows what that does. It’s tumorigenic and we now have an explosion of soft tissue tumors, cancers in that whole vaccine generation. Nobody can explain it. You know, there may be other reasons for it
We have our children swimming around in a toxic soup of chemicals now. There’s plenty of things that cause cancer but we should not be taking vaccines that cause cancer. We have a right to know whether they are or not. There’s a lot of indications that they are and there’s no proof that they’re not.
HLG: Robert, do you think it’s possible to develop any kind of a safe vaccine?
RFK: I don’t know, I hope so. There’s effort to do that. Why would the companies make that effort? They can’t be sued; there’s no liability. There’s no incentive for them to make a safe vaccine and there’s no scrutiny. They have the regulatory agencies that should be scrutinizing the ??? (44:01) and they are part of that industry.
HLG: But what about the moral conscience? Forgot the liability thing. What about moral consciences. Like, I don’t want to be developing something that’s going to hurt people.
RFK: These four companies are all convicted felons: Sanofi, Pfizer, Merck, and Glaxo.
Those four companies in the last ten years have paid 35 billion dollars in criminal penalties, civil penalties, damages for falsifying science, for defrauding regulators, for lying, cheating, stealing, bribing, blackmailing doctors. And they’ve been caught. Time after time they get caught. And killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. Merck, which is the biggest vaccine maker in our country, in 2006, paid 7 billion dollars for Vioxx for killing between 120,000 and 500,000 Americans with a drug that they marketed as a headache pill that they knew caused heart attacks. They knew it because in their clinical trials they saw a lot of people were dying from heart attacks. They went to the bean counters. The bean counters at Merck said even if we kill these people, we are still going to make more money; even if we have to pay them all off. So, they went out with this drug, and the people who were getting that drug, who were taking Vioxx did not know that it caused heart attacks because Merck kept that as a secret.
What makes you think that these companies, that the morality that you imagine these companies have, would attach itself to vaccines but all the other drugs where they can get caught because you can sue them. Vaccines the only place they can never get caught. No matter how negligent they are; no matter how malicious; no matter how toxic their ingredients; how grievous your injury. You cannot sue that company. And the only reason they got caught on Vioxx and the other drug is because private plaintiff’s attorneys sued them on behalf of an injured party and then during the discovery process, they stumbled across documents that showed that they had violated criminal statutes. The attorneys walked those documents down to the US Attorney’s office and said you should prosecute these guys criminally. But that could never happen with vaccines. With vaccines, it’s a good thing for them to injure as many people as possible. Most companies are making 60 billion dollars a year selling us mandatory vaccines. They are making 500 hundred billion selling us the EpiPen’s, albuterol inhalers, the diabetes medications, the rheumatoid arthritis medications, anti-seizure medications, and all these medicines that if you look at their top 20 drugs, you know blockbuster drugs from these companies, they are all, virtually all of them, are targeted to treat diseases that are listed as side effects from the vaccines on their own manufacturer’s insert.
HLG: So, they make us sick and then they try to sell us the cure?
RFK: It’s the perfect business model there. If you get measles, or chicken pox, what’s the cure? A week in bed, and chicken soup and vitamin C. You can’t have any of that.
Nobody’s making money on it. You don’t even go to the doctor. I have 11 brothers and sisters. We all got chicken pox, we all got measles and we never saw a doctor. You just caught it. We had chicken soup and vitamin C, and that was it and we went back to school.
But if you can give that kid an MMR shot it gives you Guillen-barre, or gives you seizures or epilepsy, right now you have a lifetime customer. Or narcolepsy from the flu shots. Those companies have the perfect business model. They have a mandatory drug that they can make us all sick, a mandatory that is given to healthy kids and make them all sick; and then they sell us the treatments for the rest of their lives. I’ve got kids that are going to be buying EpiPen’s until the day they die, 600-dollar EpiPen’s.
HLG: Wow. So, our goal is to get the word out so that we can keep people healthy and strong so that these companies won’t have any more customers. I know that’s the goal of the Weston Price Foundation and I know it’s your goal too; to see a healthy, happy people. And those who are opting out will eventually be the control group that everyone will be able to see. I sometimes think our children are our best testimony of what a healthy life looks like. Do you know what I mean?
RFK: Yeah. That’s exactly right and that’s what we’re going for. Let’s look at the science and let’s make sure
And they don’t have that.
HLG: Let me just ask you the question I always pose at the end. If the listener could do just one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?
RFK: Well, I would recommend people do is go to Children’s Health Defense and join us, join the resistance, join the army. The more people that we get. Eventually they are going to throw us off. Do you follow me on Instagram? We need you, we need to be able to reach you, we need you to join the army, we need your email, so we can communicate to you even when we get expelled.
HLG: Yes, we will find you on an alternate platform or wherever it is. Thank you so much for your time today. Thank you for your work at Children’s Health Defense.
RFK: Thank you very much.
HLG: Take care. Our guest today was Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Visit childrenshealthdefense.org for more resources. And I’m Hilda Labrada Gore. Find me at holistichilda.com For the show notes for this and every podcast episode, visit our website at westonaprice.org and click on the podcast page.
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