You Heal You

How can we get through this seemingly interminable pandemic better and stronger than ever before? Tommy John is a former professional athlete, a published author, and the owner and operator of the Tommy John Performance and Healing Center in San Diego. Today, he reminds us to step into our own sovereignty and strength and recognize the reality that the body has the ability to self-heal.

He offers insights and provocative questions about the health care “system”–both Western and naturopathic. He points out the importance of not getting swept up by the chaos of our times. And he advocates for holistic health that begins with each individual’s innate intelligence and resilience.

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Episode Transcript

Within the below transcript the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Tommy John.

Where do we get the idea that our bodies are sick? Why should we outsource our health to an expert to heal our very own bodies? How can we get through the seemingly interminable pandemic better and stronger than ever before? This is Episode 347 and our guest is Tommy John. He is a former professional athlete, a published author, and the Owner and Operator of the Tommy John Performance and Healing Center in San Diego. He has many years of clinical experience with a unique approach to patients. His goal is to help them rediscover their sovereignty, strength, and the reality that the body self-heals. Tommy has been a guest on this show before, but a lot of things have shifted since we did Episode 182 in 2019.

Tommy returns to the show with some provocative questions about medicine, Western and naturopathic. He advocates for individual empowerment to heal ourselves. He reminds us not to get swept up in the chaos of our times. Tommy points out the futility of becoming experts in very bad things. He is a true advocate for holistic health that breaks free from the system. Though Tommy has long been in the sports field, it’s clear that he’s not playing games anymore.

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Welcome to the show, Tommy.

Thank you very much. It’s great to be back.

I feel like you’re a different person from the last time we talked. Before, we were talking about sports medicine and preventing injury in children. Now you’re saying, “Degrees don’t matter. Doctors are nothing.” Explain this shift.

It was the gift that was 2020. I know we’re looking at the events of the globe as 2020 being some of the worst we’ve ever seen in our lifetime. I agree but with the way the body is designed, for every trauma, there is a healing response greater than that. If we look at what happened with 2020 and we use that as an opportunity, we should be able to elevate our lives, our existence, our stance here, and our purpose to something greater than we’ve ever imagined. That’s why I say that 2020 is the greatest year of my life.

Your body is trying to tell what is it you can do right now to level up in this moment, because this is one of the greatest opportunities humanity’s ever seen.

We talked in 2018. Literally, what truth has come out of this 2020 to now? I sat there and I was like, “What is my role in this whole thing? What do I believe? What do I not? What is on my values and belief system? What do I want to take in? Who do I want to relate myself with? Who do I want to affiliate myself with? Who do I don’t? Who do I not?”

There were a lot of truths coming through which is fantastic. What I’ve noticed in my personal work with my intention behind everything and my greater purpose, I feel all systems need to crumble. No matter how you look at whatever is going on, you’re starting to see that some of the things we were told might not be what we think they were from agriculture to education, medicine, tech, finances, government, law, the news. You name it.

No matter what path you go, everything is being affected right now. I look at it as everything is up for grabs. Everything is up. It’s a clear board. Who do you want to be right now? If you were given a redo, what would you do? What would you do with your family? What would be your passion? What would you believe in? Where would you live? Who would you be with? That’s what I personally have done.

That was the big thing. It was like, “What do I want my videos to be?” Initially, it was information about maybe germ theories, and interviewing Dr. Palevsky, Dr. Cowan, and Stefan Lanka. It was like, “Viral contagion theories.” I was on that and learned a lot. I was like, “There’s something else.” Being an expert in bad things is not doing us any good.

I want you to elaborate on that. What do you mean we’re an expert on bad things?

We’ve got all these devices in our pockets or sitting over our waists that we can look up for anything and get information. Whether that’s correct information, I don’t have any idea. It was stemmed by Dr. Jo Yi. I was in a Clubhouse meeting with Dr. Jo Yi, and he asked me this question, “TJ, what books are you reading?”

This was as I’m having these epiphanies and these growths because every trauma is a chance to level up. If you do it right, you should be a completely different remodeled person than you were prior to. This is the design. I am a better person for society and myself because I’ve done the personal work. It was late 2020. It might have been after the New Year. He goes, “What books are you reading?” I was like, “What a profound question. That’s so great.”

David Whyte: Essentials was a book of poetry. David Whyte wrote Essentials out of 2020. He goes at what’s being threatened and where we need to resort. It is like our relationship with the Earth, nature, sky, and seeing where we fit, plus the poetry is beautiful. It could be interpreted in many ways. I felt good reading David Whyte: Essentials.

He was asking me because he wanted to answer his own question. It was one of those things where he didn’t really care what my answer was. He was reading one of David Icke’s books. That’s phenomenal. I’ve watched many videos of David Icke. Early on in this thing, I was like, “This is some great information.” It makes sense to me.

I went home and I sat with that for a while. I was like, “Of the two books, what feelings, emotions or subject matter will humanity do better sitting with? An expert in what? Is it David Whyte: Essentials and connecting to love of self, love of others, love of Earth, and love of nature inside of us, or David Icke’s brilliant and detailed accounts of everything going on from a global conspiracy to the complete great reset takeover, reptilian, and all that other stuff? In my opinion, it would be the David Whyte: Essentials.

I’m sitting there and I’m like, “We are experts in some bad things.” Everyone can quote Dr. David Whyte. Everyone can quote whoever is attacking Del Bigtree. They can quote CNN or Fox. When was the last meal you made from scratch? What were the ingredients in that meal? Can you tell me the directions to the closest farm that you trust? Can you tell me street by street? Can you tell me how much a pound of beef liver cost? That’s if we’re thinking simply of food. I’m bringing it to food.

You’re an expert on all these detailed things that serve you no good in the long-term of what it is to be a human, yet you’re not focused on anything it is to be a human. You just got all this access to all this information. That’s where I’ve become very sensitive now. I would get DMs and everyone is like, “Have you heard the latest on shedding or the latest video from whoever?” I’m like, “No, I’m too busy sunning myself.” Part of that is true. As people know, I’m all about exposing as many cells as I can to the morning sun since they are solar panels.

The other part is it doesn’t matter what that means to you, but be so obsessed with putting yourself in a better position today than you were yesterday. You don’t have time to spend as much energy on that information that keeps coming in and flooding in. It’s flooding into your inbox and through your feeds. Everybody loves talking about it because it gives him something to focus on besides themselves. That’s why I think they’re obsessed with now as they have feelings towards something. They have a doctorate in bad things. That’s where that connection is. I want to bring us back to you. What is it that your body is trying to tell? What is it that you can do right now to level up at this moment? This is one of the greatest opportunities humanity has ever seen.

We’re here for a reason. Everything I’ve been through put me here right now to be able to do the things that I’ve done and to see some of the things that I’ve seen. I’m pumped that I’ve said 2020 is the greatest year of my life, second to the death of my brother in 2010, because of the opportunities I saw at what truth was exposed to me, and how I was able to take those opportunities. I’m not in denial. I’m not just, “Yeah, life is amazing.” Life is real. Truth is real.

Our expression and the interaction of it doesn’t always feel amazing, but it is amazing when our bodies talk to us with symptoms. We get that feeling when we’re amongst somebody that’s not maybe ideal. You feel in your gut that you should not be in this relationship right now or, “I shouldn’t be living in this area of the country. I need to do something different as my career model. I need to start believing in something. I need to get my food from somewhere else. I need to take control of my sleep. I need to bring breath, meditation and prayer. I need to move a little differently.” Those are the components that I’m trying to see where we could be experts in.

We are spending far too much time distracting ourselves. Some of us in this alternative health space might look down on the person binge-watching a Netflix series, but we’re essentially doing the same thing when we’re filling our minds with information that isn’t moving us forward as human beings.

If you bring it back to medicine, the allopathic model, diagnostics, codes, labels, taking symptoms, which are just healing and naming them as a disease or sickness. From that, the solution is pharmaceuticals, injections, surgeries and radiation. The same is happening on the naturopathic side. It’s green allopathy where we take a lab panel, throw a bunch of supplemental oils and herbs at those specific low numbers, and we’re doing the same thing

They had to have a label first. They had to have supplements now instead of medications. It’s one of those things where both sides are guilty of that. Now, I don’t want to be labeled a chiropractor. My license is in the hands of my friend right now. I’ve burned my degrees because there’s nothing with what chiropractic school stood for, and who was allowing chiropractic school to be there still and have its accreditation. What they did was allow millions of people called chiropractors to feedback into the system orthopedically.

Science is catching up to traditional wisdom. Sooner or later, it’ll catch up to the fact that humanity has the power to heal.

The greatest classes we had in chiropractic school were identifying tumors. Why would they want us to identify tumors? “So you can safely refer out.” To who? What do you think? It feeds back the same system. Everyone is guilty of the same stuff. It’s all coming back from the same thing. It’s the same model pushing the same stuff. I’m like, “We got to pull it all back.” I want everything to crumble.

That’s why I say naturopathic holistic has to crumble as much as allopathic and the toxicity of it. It all has to come down. Where’s the medicine? It’s human. It’s existed forever. It’s human medicine. What does that mean? Your entire life is your medicine. It is literally this. That’s why I was on a freedom group. I was in the Health Freedom for Humanity, a nonprofit that we started. They literally had a meeting because a female doctor in the group didn’t like my posts.

I was not friendly with what she was selling. She had a meeting about me. All of a sudden, “He needs to tailor back his whole thing.” From the top-down, “TJ, could you speak differently?” In a stance, I’m being censored in a freedom group. This is straight-up irony. I don’t know what irony is but I think this is it. I’m like, “No, I don’t feel good at that.” They wanted me on the podcast and to keep me there. I’m like, “I don’t feel good about this.”

In the gut of me, I couldn’t represent a freedom group that I wasn’t able to be my true self because there’s that freedom where you’re not getting my true me. Am I good for humanity if I’m not expressing my total truth? No. I’m posing as a top influencer and all these other people that are at the forefront of all this stuff to get followers. To do what? Again, we have gone from we can’t trust the organizations that we’re seeing in the mainstream media and the government. We go over to the freedom groups and now I’m done with you guys too. I don’t want any groups. I want humanity coming back. I want the humans coming back.

I got you. Think about playing a different game. Let’s say we’re in a football stadium and we’re like, “This football game is horrible.” We’re playing a soccer game and we’re like, “This team is better,” but we’re still in the same stadium. We haven’t busted it out at all.

It’s the same thing where there are people creating platforms and harvesting emails, which is fine and I get that and bringing in controlled information. They want to get my naturopath and me on board as well, then sell back our information to people who are scared and terrified of what’s going on. It’s like, “You guys are doing the same thing. We don’t need another platform. We don’t need another thing.”

That’s all it becomes. Everyone has looked at this as an opportunity, which I said was an opportunity, but it’s not an opportunity to leach more blood out of humanity that’s been bleeding for 40, 50 or 60 years that now we’ve spun it in this freedom health movement. You’re doing the same thing. My comments on my posts are right. You see how I respond. They don’t like it because I’m not selling them anything. If anything, I’m challenging them.

You’re not playing the game anymore. We are all wanting to help but at the same time, helping hurts sometimes. I get that feeling also in your practice that you’re tired of having people outsource their health to you when they may know more about their bodies than you do. Is that right?

They definitely do. That’s why I said the whole doctor title. Even on the natural side of things, we put the two letters in front of a name to mean that person is an expert on my body because they went and regurgitated information that was controlled by an organization. Something is not right. I’m not twenty years into practice and I’ve started to realize that I don’t know anything.

I’ll be the first to admit it. You know that. You’ve seen that as my answer. I really don’t know. I’m constantly learning. Every time I do a Zoom rehab session or a new person comes in, in my head, I’m like, “What are they going to teach me today? What am I going to learn from the infinite potential that is the human being?” What’s great is I don’t take notes. Why?

It’s because who they were on a Friday is not who they were next Tuesday. What do I care what they are on Friday? Don’t you do re-evaluations? Every time I see them, they are a completely different person. How do you get bored with your spouse? We’re completely different each second every day. What did you dream about last night? What are your feelings now? What do you want to do?

How are you totally different today than you were before? That’s the part that gives me the goosebumps. That’s the part I want to work with. That’s the part I want to acknowledge and be humbled to. I always tell people in my practice, “I’m following your breadcrumbs.” There’s no way I’m going to school which a chimp could go and graduate from. Your loan is clear and you sit in a seat. That’s all you have to do. It’s regurgitating information. You only have to be good. You don’t have to critically think. You don’t have to do anything.

That is the natural side of things. Dr. Cassie Huckaby goes to the naturopathic school. She was a black sheep among the black sheep regurgitating stuff. She has called out them as well. It’s this whole thing where we’ve lost the respect. There’s very little humility in the face of the power that is the quantum machine of the human being. That’s why I’ve poked fun at science throughout this whole thing. We live and die by science but let’s realize that science follows us. We don’t follow the science. When everybody goes, “Science discovers,” that means they just caught up to what’s been happening since the dawn of forever.

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That’s what we always say at the foundation, “Science is catching up to traditional wisdom.” Sooner or later, they’ll catch up to the fact that humanity has the power to heal. We have the power more than we may have ever realized. Let’s say I find myself in some state of disease and I come to someone for help. Shouldn’t I do that, Tommy?

The thing we should be doing is listening to ourselves and feeling ourselves because, in order to heal, we have to feel. That’s first and foremost. We are in a society that a lot of people are making a lot of money on both sides, natural green and allopathic, for us not to feel anything. You can’t feel down, up, headache, indigestion, acid stomach, cramps, itchy, tight muscles, blood pressure spike, cold or hot. We’re trying to find ways to neutralize everything and have everybody feel good all the time.

Everything is a condition. We’ve been led to believe that those feelings now are diseases when they’re just the body’s way of talking. We wish it could speak in our native tongue. I wish my elbow would be like, “I need this.” “Thanks, elbow.” I wish the cells on my liver would speak. We wish that it could speak in our native tongue but it doesn’t. It speaks with symptoms and in feeling. My brother is on my forum, but the mental health world has told us that our feeling, excitement, joy, anger, depression and mania is a disease. There may be a little brilliance in there because it’s the body doing what it’s supposed to do to keep its existence.

That’s how it’s designed. It’s perpetuating its ability to adapt and thrive. While feeling during this whole dance and work together, if we have a professional that we’ve extensively researched and pulled back the curtain behind them. We get a good feeling about how they run themselves. They’re a great representation of their medicine because they have applied it to themselves. They seem to be healthy. They’ve healed themselves with what they’re doing. They test their medicine day in and day out. They’re not making money off of labels, spheres, and all these other things. Maybe we need help.

One, your practitioner is going to be a cash practice. Two, they are going to not call you something. Three, it’s going to call you by your name and not give you the name of some symptom or disease. They usually don’t make money off their supplements or medicine. It could be herbs, supplements and oils, but they’re not making money off of that. It’s the exchange and very limited exposure to them because they’ll point a direction, you take it and you’re healed.

They are not trying to keep you on coming back for more.

You are done. When I found my farmer in Iowa, I put him in my book and he was like, “What do you want for it? Thanks so much.” “I don’t want you to do anything. Just don’t change and stay quality so that I can have peace of mind that I know exactly where to go for my meat.” I know what farm to go to. There’s peace of mind.

When I found Dr. Cassie Huckaby of Grit Natural Medicine, on the front of her website is, “Schedule your last first visit.” Schedule the last first visit you’ll ever need because you’re done. It’s not you have a condition and you only heal that, and then you’re going to have other conditions. It’s all of it, all the time. That’s why somebody comes in with an ankle, knee, shoulder, they present it with a wrist.

You go on their history. We’re dealing with the ankle, knee, shoulder because it is all connected to your wrist. You’re then dealing with nourishment, spirituality, belief, purpose, relationships, sleep, and all these other things. That is truly pure medicine men and women. They are the ones who teach you not to need them. I’m not talking short-term like, “I’ve reversed it in three months and I had to go back. I did it for a year, and then I had to go back.” No, it’s minimal input and they get you in a position so that you can heal yourself. That is literally the only way it works. We’re designed that way.

It sounds like a high standard.

What’s so cool is we have the possibility inside of us and the potential for all of it. Who’s the guy that broke the four-minute mile? For years, medical doctors have been saying it’s not possible to run faster than four minutes. The body will pull itself apart. It won’t sustain it so and so. They put with that story, eliminating belief system on the world of running. It’s arbitrary because it’s running. Who cares? We can apply this to anything.

They put this limit, saying that you’re limited. You can’t go below four. First of all, how do they know the potential inside the human being? Two, they’re not trained in anything. Three, they told the world a story that that story is what’s changing the physiology of the person. I had a talk at the Heart of Freedom rally. I created a scare and immediately there was a sympathetic response. These people were not digesting the food. They were not healing. Their blood pressure shut up. Some were nauseated. They were sweaty and angry.

I made them less healthy by suggesting that they needed to come up and dance in front of the crowd. Instantaneously, I told them a story and that created a response. What if they don’t correct that story? I corrected it right away. I said I was joking, but what if they hold onto that story for ten years? Now they’re not digesting. They now have GERD, blood pressure or you just believe in a story.

Back to that mile, all of a sudden, one man defied those limits. In a month, 18 or 19 other people did. It’s the stories. Every single name for every condition they have ever come up with has been healed before. The healing is in the name and all the little markers. It would be like if you cut your leg, naturopathic and allopathic go, “I bet it got painful.” “Yeah, how did you know?” “Because we studied it.”

“I bet this clear liquid came out first and this red stuff came out later. This real disgusting flaky thing formed, and then when you touched it, it itched around the corners. I bet when you pulled that off, more of that red stuff came out. I bet when it flaked off, there was this pink thing underneath. After a while, there was a blemish there.” We know all about the disease. You guys know all about healing. You’ve said it was a disease. We all know that’s what happens to a cut, and the timeframe is so immediate, and we can see it. If we could dive in and go to the rest of the body, that is what’s going on. Every single stage of every single disease they have ever named is the healing response in stages.

You owe it to yourself to become your grittiest, most resilient, most sunbathed self.

That’s all they have done, and that’s both sides. If we look at it that way, it’s pretty amazing that we have this ability inside of us. That is what makes me not want to be quiet. That’s what gets me excited about life and potential. It’s not making me invincible because that’s not what it is, but it has me wanting to live at this high level instead of trying to not die.

It’s a huge paradigm shift to think of cancer, autoimmune conditions, diabetes and all these things as not being sick necessarily, but the body’s attempt to heal itself.

If we look at that, you start to see what a major player you are in this. It’s something that’s been lacking because the dehumanization of the globe takes away the accountability and responsibility to be a human. Our belief system, purpose, relationship, sleep, naps, breath meditation, prayer, nourishment, body movements, and our intention behind all that are all being attacked, everything it is to be a human right now.

What we can do is to go back and put ourselves in this position and understand it. Ollie Ollerton, I interviewed him and it was brilliant. I wanted a man’s and a father’s perspective on what was going on. All these women were fighting like, “You’re not going to mess with my child. I’ll fight.” I saw this and I’m like, “Where are the dudes?” I interviewed Ollie Ollerton, who was a former SAS agent. He goes, “We have a 1-meter-square rule.” They’re going into a mission and stuff starts going crazy. All these bullets and everything, you’re wounded, and all this stuff takes care of everything within 1 meter square around you. You take care of everything within that to the best of your ability. Put yourself in the 1-meter square into the best position possible to be able to do your duty.

If fourteen men do that, they carry out the mission. They win and succeed. Why can’t we do that with seven billion people? Each one of us does our service to the globe, which is to make sure we’re better today than we were yesterday. That’s our healing response. Dr. Kelly Brogan’s quote to Dr. Tom Cowan is, “You owe it to humanity to heal yourself.” I never heard it put that way. It was like you changing your being and healing is affecting as I affect you, in essence, because we exchanged here. If I’m doing better, which I will because you know how it goes and you as well, thank you for doing this for me. That’s how we elevate the consciousness and bring it back.

The twist on it that’s happening out there is they’re saying, “I’m responsible for you that I need to inject myself with something.”

That doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s not allowing that possibility. They find a flaw. That’s why germ and viral theory doesn’t make any sense. Baseball injures arms. No, they don’t. The inability to adapt to throwing a baseball injures arms. If that was the case, everybody who threw a baseball ever would fall apart. It doesn’t make any sense. As soon as they find that limiting narrative, we’re dependent on something outside ourselves to heal. There is no healing force outside the body. There’s not one.

Cassie was getting to the point that she may not even have to do supplements, oils, herbs or any labs. She’s getting close to being able to do one visit. In that visit, there’s such a profound shift. That’s it, and then the person goes and takes it, and then it becomes living. That’s truly how you put yourself in a position. Even if you think that by touching my hand, you can pass me something, which is true. The consciousness wasn’t more infectious than any germ.

Women that live together tend to get on the same cycle. They didn’t infect each other with a period bug. What is that? Our resonance, exchange, and our body is communicating saying, “We need to level up because the environment is doing this. What do you think? Let’s level up.” We express symptoms. Everybody will call that going sick, “You guys are all getting sick together.” No, we’re just leveling up. Just like when an ankle swells, it’s letting us know that it wasn’t strong enough to do that.

If we listen to it and put it in the environment, it’ll level up. All of a sudden, even if you believe that there’s this floating villain, or some sport could harm you, or something outside that you’re going to protect against everything, you still owe it to yourself to create the grittiest, most resilient, strongest, most connected, most sunbathe, most meditated, most connected, most nourished, most rested, most believed, and the most aware person ever to put you in the best vision possible because we’re drying off in the rain with the best towels. We’re then wondering why we’re still soaking wet because we got the best house though.

Instead, everyone is going, “I’m still wet.” I know. Stop it from raining. Has anybody suggested to anyone coming in from outside, “Dry off, wait a little bit, put on a coat and gloves, and then go outside and do whatever you want to do?” We’re trying to pave all the roads instead of preparing the drivers. We’re trying to create these perfect scenario lies. That’s not how the body was designed. There were two Monarch butterflies cocooned on my door. It’s not random and I’m going through some major changes right now too.

I looked at that one butterfly and I’m like, “You went from crawling to now you’re in a cocoon, and now you can fly.” I’m looking at this butterfly and that is it. What if I opened that cocoon early? We all know what happens to that. What if you try to develop a child earlier? What if you try to speed up healing or end the changes you’re going through before the body is done. You don’t get to that flying capacity. That’s what we got to go through.

That’s trusting that innate intelligence and the perfect natural combination of everything that is going on, in and around us. It has our best interest in mind because it is everything you feel. Everything by design is out of love. I keep stealing it from her. I have to give credit because I don’t like stealing people’s stuff. In one of our conversations, Dr. Cassie goes, “We’ll poison ourselves, talk bad about ourselves, toxify ourselves, starve ourselves from nourishment, and keep ourselves up at night. We will be cruel to ourselves, and the body keeps coming back from a place of love to keep us here.”

That gives me goosebumps every time I say it because no matter what we do to it, it still comes back and wants to keep us here. It wants us to adapt and thrive. What if instead of doing all those things from the standpoint of thinking that our body is against us, whether our body is flawed or we can injure each other just by being in the presence of each other? What if we switched that and changed it to a place of we’re the most perfectly equipped, unlimited potential, and infinite possibility? We are walking possibility. The fact that we’re here right now, it’s the ultimate lottery. How about we start looking at things that way, and then you start enjoying this thing called life?

I love the idea also of living rather than not dying. I think 2021 has been a call to that. It was like throwing off, busting out of the stadium, busting out of the prison walls that we’ve created for ourselves, and trusting our bodies to rise to the challenge. This has been an amazing inspirational conversation. I want to close with a final question that I often pose at the end. If the reader could do one thing to take a step in the right direction to heal themselves, even recognize their potential, what would you recommend that they do?

Honestly, I would think that there are many clues to what we need on the opposite side of the window. If I could say, “I have these eight essentials,” and I was going to list eight, I’m like, “I thought it was reduced enough down to that.” If there was one thing, it’s getting outside, go and walk. I’m noticing now that my revelations come when I’m in these walkabouts. You have to get outside so you’re connecting.

You’re going to see ladybugs, a cat, weather and lands. You’re going to see how everything is shifting. You’re going to see this intelligence, the moon, the sun, and pelicans if you’re in the forest, a field or an island. It doesn’t matter. There is so much truth outside if you just get out. Everything we did as soon as we came out of mom was to walk. Every single daily activity, our duty and responsibility were to walk. Not once was the baby like, “Nope, not for me. I don’t think I’m going to do it. I would like to be wheeled around in an electric stroller.”

There’s something profound there with the outside and this simple move that we always think we are owed. Do you realize what you went through to be able to walk? You don’t want to lose the ability. I find so much magic outside and walking. Now you’re exposed to natural light and solar panels. You’re getting infinite light therapy. You’re pumping cerebral spinal fluid to bathe your spine and your brain. You’re getting creative inspiration.

We are walking possibility. The fact that we even got here right now, it’s almost like winning the ultimate lottery. So how about we start looking at things that way, and then you start enjoying this thing called life?

You can’t not feel good after a walk. You will be charged. You’ll have ideas and your respiration of that on the outside or inside. If you want to throw it up a notch, breathe through your nose. It’s literally getting outside and walking. Now we’re all starting to see these connections outside instead of virtual or in these rooms inside. Now it’s like, “There is a lot of life out here. There are a lot of things that we have access to.”

I get more goosebumps on a walk. People will be like, “You have to do more than that.” No, I do walk because you earned it. It’s the foundation of everything that a two-legged being has. You will see the animal kingdom, assuming they’re bipeds or whatever, but they walk a lot. There’s like a link there, but it’s getting on the other side of that window.

Thanks so much, Tommy. This has been a great conversation.

I love it. Thank you.

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Our guest was Tommy John. Visit his website, DrTommyJohn.com, for more information on his resources, videos and services. You can find me at HolisticHilda.com. Now for our review from Apple Podcasts. “One of my favorites,” from SoICanSayEternally, “I love Wise Traditions. This is one of my favorite podcasts because they tell the truth. I especially love how they blow up the virus myth. Keep it coming.” SoICanSayEternally, thank you for this feedback. It means a lot. It brought a smile to my face. Feel free if you’d like to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Every review makes the show that much more attractive. Thank you so much for reading, my friend. Stay well. Hasta Pronto.

Important Links:

• Tommy John
• Episode 182 – Sports Survival Guide with Dr. Tommy John
• Redmond.life
• ForceOfNature.com
• Optimal Carnivore
• Amazon.com/OptimalCarnivore
• Dr. Jo Yi
• David Whyte: Essentials
• Health Freedom for Humanity
• Ollie Ollerton – Past Episode on Getting’ Naked with TJ Podcast
• Dr. Cassie Huckaby
• HolisticHilda.com

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