Sunlight. Nourishing organ meats. A healthy, happy life. Matt Maruca, Sally Fallon Morell, and Bruce Lipton cover all of the above on our final podcast of 2021. It’s a “highlight reel” of sorts with excerpts from the most popular episodes of the year. Explore the benefits of full spectrum sunlight with Matt Maruca of Ra Optics. Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation, highlights the timeless principles of healthy traditional diets, including the importance of eating nose-to-tail and preparing for pregnancy. And Dr. Bruce Lipton offers insights on happiness: the importance of self-acceptance and balance.
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.Welcome to the last episode of the year and what a year it has been. We have seen a lot and interviewed tons of health and wellness experts here on the show, who’ve given us insights to equip us to navigate these times. There’s a lot to be thankful for. This is episode 345 and it is a Best Of episode, where we feature highlights from three of the top episodes of 2021. These are interviews that you, read, loved, shared and we can tell by the numbers. We’re bringing them back to you in a highlight reel with selected sections for you to read for the first time or to simply enjoy again.
We read from Dr. Bruce Lipton the author of The Biology of Belief. With him, we uncover insights into our subconscious programming and learn how to flip the script so we can be happy, fulfilled people. With Sally Fallon Morell, we examine the common characteristics of the diets of isolated people groups worldwide and the nutrient-dense foods that help them thrive so we can emulate that and benefit as well. Last but not least, we read from Matt Maruca of Ra Optics. He reminds us how to soak up the sun because sunlight is the greatest multivitamin ever.
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Any relationship you create, by definition, is called codependency.
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First up is an excerpt of an interview with Bruce Lipton from Episode 330, Change Your Programming. Bruce discusses with us, the subconscious childhood programming that has shaped how we see the world and was set during the first seven years of our lives. He suggests that that programming affects everything in our lives, including our health. He talks about how to turn that programming around, how to reprogram ourselves in essence, by learning to stop criticizing ourselves and learning to love and accept ourselves just as we are.
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The challenge is how we can believe in the resilience of the body and the human spirit when there’s so much negativity and information out there that’s saying the opposite?
The question is, “Who do you want to listen to?” That’s the big issue. We pick our sources. Unfortunately, because of the crowd response, we pick one kind of source. I’ve been in this world enough to know that following one source could be a lot of problems for a lot of people. There are other opportunities and insights, which get lost if you say, “Follow. This is my way.” That keeps people from expanding even their consciousness to get outside of that one walk.
If you need somebody else to complete yourself, you’re not independent. That’s codependent.
Coming from a scientific career, I’m programmed to check everything to see all the connections and all that kinds of stuff. That’s how we interpret what we see in the laboratory and all that. The simple reality is this. If I listened to a lot of people when I first did my discovery of epigenetics, all the words I got from them are sham, pseudo-scientist, fake, quack, all these things. There was a choice. Hide and say, “I’m not going to say that anymore. I’ll stick to my guns.” It took 23 years before science then verified everything I was talking about. After many years, it was worth it.
How did you stick to your guns in those early days? It must have been hard with all of these people calling you names, considering you a fraud and such.
This is a real big problem for almost everybody out there. I had this problem and overcame it but I can tell you because I’m involved in a lot of belief change modalities and people asked me to speak. One of the programs I got involved with is we do a belief assessment by doing Kinesiology. This is the most important thing. First is a statement you make and then we do a muscle test. The statement is, “I love myself.” Over 80% up to 90% of all attendees at all these programs will not test positive for, “I love myself,” including me. They go, “What’s the significance of this?” I go, “The significance is if you don’t love yourself, you’re not going to even honor yourself anymore and nobody else can love you.”
I know I’m not lovable. You come up and say, “I love you.” I go, “You don’t have any quality control. I’m pretty clear I’m not lovable.” I’ll push you away. At some point, I’ll look around and nobody’s there and, “See? I’m not lovable.” I push everyone away. That’s a behavior. The first test was, “I don’t have enough respect for myself. I was always looking for somebody to complete me.”
I’ve even heard that phrase in the movies. It was the movie with Tom Cruise and the person was like, “You complete me.” The question is why is that important to know that other people can’t complete us?
It’s because any relationship you create, by definition, it’s called codependency. “I’m missing a piece. You have that piece. If we get together, your piece will fulfill me. I will be something fulfilling to you.” It’s a codependent relationship where you come together because both of you have needs. The problem with codependency is if you are needier than I am, I could push you. I can go do stuff and you’re going to hang on to me because, “I need you. What am I going to do without you?” That’s a very bad relationship because it’s not built on love. It’s built on need. I was one of those people.
I remember my wake-up call was I was living in the Caribbean. I had a great job. I was teaching one and a half days a week. I had a house on the coast with a pool and a beach out in the back. I could even go snorkeling in the backyard. It was beautiful. I had money because I wasn’t spending it on a Caribbean island. I had a beautiful Caribbean place. I needed somebody. Every now and then, if I could see somebody like a candidate, I sit down and try to talk to them into it.
I remember I was at this yacht club. This woman came in on a yacht. She wasn’t sure where she was going to go next or something. I got a great line. Boys are looking for a good line and I got one. I said, “Would you like to come, spend some time in my villa and hang out here?” She paused, looked me straight in the eye and says, “I can’t be with you. You’re too needy.” I said, “Thank you very much.” I needed that. It was a slap in the face. It woke me up. I walked away from that lunch and started going home. I go, “You live in the most beautiful place. You’ve got money in your pocket and got a great job. The world is yours.” I’m talking to myself. “Bruce, you can’t be happy with all this stuff you got? I’m not going to go seek a partner until I learn to be happy myself.”
The interesting thing is that the fats that we should be eating are the fats that we’re being told not to eat.
Why is this important for our general health, for us to love ourselves and to not need others to complete us?
If you need somebody else to complete yourself, you’re not independent. That’s codependent. “I need them.” You could stretch need and the person could be abusive. “I need them even if they’re abusive.” That’s what people will stick to all this stuff. What I realized is I need to learn how to be happy with all the things that I already have. If I can be happy myself then I will not need someone. My mission was to look around and say, “Stop looking and start enjoying your life. Start to see all the wonder.” That’s exactly what happened. At some point, I was so happy not looking for anybody that I had everything I wanted. I enjoyed myself. The moment I was enjoying myself was when people were coming to look for a relationship because I wasn’t needy anymore. It was like, “He’s a good catch. He’s not needy.”
It’s so ironic. When you’re happy in and of yourself then you attract happy people who are also fulfilled by themselves.
I’m a Science guy. One of the things that is interesting is there’s a periodic table of all the elements. It’s a big chart with all the elements where they got columns. There’s one interesting column in all of the charts. That column is called the noble gases, argon, krypton, helium and things like that. I go, “What’s unique about this column of these elements?” “They don’t make chemistry.” I go, “What do you mean?” “You don’t find argon sulfate or helium carbonate.” “Why?”
The answer is this. We all know that their nucleus with the electron spinning around. They’re called shells. How many electrons could be in a shell? All atoms spin like tops. If the shell is filled, it’s balanced and the top spins in perfect balance. If the shell is missing some electrons like it needs to get or give away an electron, it’s not in balance. When you see it spin, it wobbles. It’s a top that’s not in balance. It’s wobbling.”
Wobbling is very inefficient for energy. It’s a waste of energy. What was the point? If you’re wobbling, you don’t want a wobble so what are you going to do? If you’re an atom that wobbles, you’re going to find another atom that wobbles but they’re going to be complimentary wobbles. When they come together, the couple of atoms spin in balance. If they separate then they go back into wobble again. The noble gases are the only elements in the table that have balance. When they’re balanced, they spin in so perfect balance. They’re not influenced by out-of-balance things around them. If I’m spinning in perfect balance and there’s a crazy person there, it’s like, “You could be crazy because it’s not going to affect me.” You become independent and spin on your own.
At one point, when I was putting all this together, I said, “It’s because they don’t couple.” Here’s the true story. Noble gases can make what is called a dimer. Dimer means two atoms are coming together but when noble gases form dimers with other noble gases or with the same kind, they don’t call it a dimer. They call it an excimer. That sounds much better because when 2 noble gases and 1 of them get hit by an electron and lightened, the 2 come together as a couple. As a couple, they give off laser light.
For me, it was like, “If I find another person who is in perfect balance then we could become together, excimers and give off light, which the other people see.” That’s why people who are so in love like that. Other people look at them and can feel the energy and the harmony. The vibration is smooth and in balance. They want something like that but if they’re not in balance themselves then they’re going to seek somebody who is also out of balance because the two out of balance are coming together, creating a balance. You’re stuck in a relationship where you’re dependent on the other person being there and contributing. If they fail to do so then your relationship is in a garbage can and all kinds of stuff.
The first thing is learning to love yourself. It means you’re like, “I can be independent. I’m happy in my life, just as it is. I don’t need anybody.” That was the good part but it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be fun to have somebody around. I’m in a relationship not based on need. If my partner doesn’t want to be there, fine, leave. If my partner wants to go crazy, she’ll go crazy but I’m not going crazy. I’m in perfect balance. The whole focus is to become a noble gas like, “Can you be happy by yourself?” If you can be happy and enjoy life by yourself then you’re very ripe material for a relationship.
Not only that. You’re in a ripe spot for thriving. This mindset you’re talking about reminds me of the chaos that’s spinning around us that’s being turned up by the media and all the rest. We can be impervious to that if we have this spirit that you’re talking about.
Otherwise, if you’re out of balance, you want to conform. Conforming means, “I’m going to fit in. I’ve got to be balanced.” I go, “You’re out of balance and conforming with a lot of people out of balance. That doesn’t necessarily help you in any sense at all.” If you can’t be happy in your own life, under your own skin, you cannot truly be happy with other people because, by definition, you’ve already made an agreement. “I give you something and you give me something. It’s an exchange but it’s not mine to keep. It’s yours to give when you’re giving it. If you stop giving it then I’m back at zero again.”
The whole idea is being a noble gas is you could be totally happy alone and could be even happier with another noble gas because then two noble gases are making an excimer. It’s what gives off that laser. That’s what a laser light comes from. All of a sudden, I say, “They do form relationships but much better than the other relationship because it’s not, ‘I need this relationship,’ which means if we’re working in harmony, fine. If you act like an idiot, I’m not going to respond to that. I don’t need to. I’m pretty much balanced myself.” That is the destination.
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For the rest of this conversation, read episode 330.
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Next up is an excerpt from Episode 319 with Sally Fallon Morell, the President of the Weston Price Foundation. In this particular episode, she talks about the timeless principles of healthy traditional diets. Sally, as you know is the President of the foundation and a popular speaker and author and a long-time advocate of ancestral wisdom. She rifts off our popular brochure, the Timeless Principles of Healthy Traditional diets. She explains why our ancestors cherished organ meat so much, what fats the foundation recommends, why and even how to prepare our bodies for pregnancy.
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Traditional people knew that there was a treasure in the organ meats. You’ve told me they would throw away the muscle meats and give those to the dogs.
Typically, let’s say Native Americans are on the hunt for the buffalo. When they killed a buffalo, they were not interested in the steaks and the rows. They immediately removed the brain, bone marrow, liver, the tongue and those were eaten immediately. They made a pudding with the stomach of the animal where they put the meat, the fat, blood and the rest of the organ meats especially the lungs. All cut up fine. This wasn’t hard food. This was nice and soft and easy to eat. It was salty because they put blood in it. It was like haggis. They smoked it over the fire. That was a good meal for them.
It sounds nourishing but different from what we eat now.
I often say that the key difference between healthy traditional cultures and unhealthy modern cultures is the traditional cultures ate the whole animal. They ate the organ meats and the bones. They made broth with the bones, they ate the blood. They ate everything in the animal. They ate the fat. The part that we’re throwing away.
I’m thankful that now there is a movement people are talking about eating nose to tail. Sometimes modernity or science catches up to ancient wisdom.
I’m pleased to see the push. For example, getting liver back into sausage. It’s illegal to call something sausage that has liver in it. You’d have to call it liverwurst or something like that. For Europeans, this is normal. This is how they get their organ meats. They eat sausage. They have lung sausage and liver sausage and all these great sausages.
Why don’t you give us more of an overview of all of the principles? You talked about 1, 2 and 3. What’s next?
Some of the other principles are all cultures cooked but they all ate some animal foods raw so cooked and raw. They had high food enzyme content from fermented foods. Every single traditional culture in the world had fermented foods. The next one is important. It has to do with the proper preparation of grains and legumes. These are foods that are in all these traditional cultures but they’re hard to digest. Traditional people understood this instinctively and fermented these foods sour them soak them, sprouted them, all sorts of processes to make these foods more digestible. We’re not one of these groups that tells you not to eat grains. Grains are in many traditional cultures but they need to be prepared properly.
You don’t have to say, “Stop eating sugar.” We say, “Start eating this diet.”
We talked about the importance of minimizing polyunsaturated oils and getting lots of saturated fat in your diet, having a balance of omega-6 and omega-3. That means the balance of land and sea animals. Making sure we get plenty of salt. The salt should be unrefined salt, full of minerals, making use of the bones to make bone broth that we find universally. Finally, to prepare for the next generation by special feeding before conception, eating nutrient-dense foods during pregnancy, breastfeeding and then nutrient-dense foods for the child during the period of growth.
That’s interesting to me because I feel like the way we prepare now for pregnancy is we get off birth control and start taking little prenatal supplements.
You find out you’re pregnant and then you take a prenatal vitamin pill. It is important to prepare before conception so that you have all these nutrients available from the moment that baby is conceived because all things are happening to form the organs and the systems in the body.
What were some of the foods that Dr. Price noticed across a variety of cultures they were providing to the people of the childbearing years?
One was liver. All traditional cultures made sure that expectant parents ate liver. Fats were another one, especially butterfat. He noted that in Switzerland, the butter from the cows when they first went to pasture in the spring, the butter was a deep yellow color. When he tested this butter, he found it was high in these three fat-soluble vitamins, A, D and K. That was considered an important food for young people to consume before they were married.
Let’s talk about fats because there is confusion about what are the best fats to eat.
We have a little sidebar about confused about fats and which fats we should eat. You can memorize this list. We don’t have to get technical about why. The interesting thing is that the fats that we should be eating are the fats that we’re being told not to eat. When you eat these good fats, you’re not eating the vegetable oils which is what they want you to buy. For cooking and eating, it’s butter. Tallow and suet from beef and lamb. Lard from pigs. Lard is an extremely healthy fat. It’s such a shame that we have stopped using lard. You can’t even get lard in the supermarkets anymore. Chicken, goose and duck fat and then the naturally saturated plant fats such as coconut palm and palm kernel oils. These are the stable healthy fats that have been consumed all over the world for generations.
For your salads, extra virgin olive oil, sesame and peanut oils in small amounts are fine and a tiny bit of flax oil for omega-3 in small amounts. For your fat-soluble vitamins, these are the fish liver oils like cod liver oil. We warn people against fish oils because these are industrial fats that are highly processed and rancid from the beginning. The bad fats are the trans fats. Everyone knows about that, the liquid vegetable oils, the cooking oils, any fat or oil that’s been heated to very high temperatures.
I’ve heard you say before, “It’s important to get our fat straight. This affects almost every function in the body.”
The first thing we recommend that people do if they’re trying to improve their diet and health is to get their fats right, that is start using the right kind of fats.
We have our principles but we also have some guidelines in this booklet. Why is that?
These are pretty much an expansion of the principles and aimed at the Western eater and the kinds of foods that we would eat in the West. They have to do with eating pasture-based animal foods, raw milk, plenty of butter, taking cod liver oil, choosing organic when we buy fruits and vegetables and properly preparing our grain so that would be sourdough. We stress organic whole grains to avoid any glyphosate in them. Eating fermented foods such as sauerkraut, good clean water and unrefined salt.
One thing we recommend is to make your own salad dressing. The first thing you need to learn to do as a cook is to make your salad dressing and not buy the bottled dressings, which are a horrifying list of ingredients starting with the cheapest possible oils. Another one has to do with sweeteners. This is not a diet where we say you can’t have any sweet things. Sweet things in moderation are fine. We recommend that you use natural sweeteners like maple syrup and honey.
It’s the same with alcohol. We’re not going to tell you that you can’t have a glass of wine. Wine and beer, unpasteurized and in moderation. Your cookware, don’t cook in aluminum. Use food-based supplements. Get plenty of sleep, exercise and natural light. The last one is to think positive thoughts and practice forgiveness. We get the spiritual aspect in there as well.
Going back to the food-stuff. It can sound overwhelming to the person who’s new to this. Properly prepared grains, animal fats like lard and tallow. You can’t get some of these things at the supermarket. Where should they go to get some guidance on how to apply all of this stuff?
We have a system of local chapters all over the country. We recommend you go to our website. Find your nearest local chapter and they’ll be able to tell you where you can get raw milk, good pastured eggs, buy lard and get all these products near you.
There’s so much more to our body’s function than just the fuel that’s going in. Light and energy have such a critical role.
It’s no comparison when you mentioned eggs. I couldn’t help but think about it. I got some eggs from Joel’s Farm and the yolk was such a rich, vibrant orangey color. The ones in the supermarket pale in comparison, literally.
Once you get on this diet, it becomes second nature to you, first of all. Secondly, you find that it’s quite easy. We’re not asking you to do anything hard and because this diet is nourishing and satisfying, a lot of people find that their cravings go away naturally. You don’t have to say, “Stop eating sugar.” We say, “Start eating this diet.” You’ll find that your cravings for things like sugar, cigarettes or alcohol go down because you’re well-nourished.
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For the rest of this conversation, read episode 319. Sally has a lot more goodness to share, especially about the work of Dr. Price and she does so in that episode.
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Coming up, Matt Maruca talks about how he was having daily headaches, chronic gut issues, allergies, fatigue and more. These conditions weren’t fatal obviously since he got to be on the show but they were plaguing him as a team. He talks about how full-spectrum sunlight turns things around.
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Batting cleanup is Matt Maruca of Ra Optics. Matt was featured on Episode 332 Sunlight: The Greatest Multivitamin. In that episode, he proposes a very different perspective than one that we usually read. You see our ancestors, weren’t afraid of the sun. They embraced it. Now we’re told to slather on the sunscreen, wear sunglasses and avoid the midday sun. Matt suggests that we do the opposite. He explains that natural light from the sun is necessary for our bodies to function optimally. He tells us how to get more of it into our lives.
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What got you interested at such a young age in these matters? The sunshine, for example.
I had tried so many different things in the traditional health and wellness world on my journey. I tried a lot of diets and a lot of supplements. It showed me that we have the power to influence our biology using our environment but it didn’t seem like that was all that there was to the picture. In other words, I knew there was more. Many of the health experts were stopping with functional medicine, food, supplementation and exercise. I thought, “There’s got to be more,” and that’s when I learned about people like Jack Kruse and researchers in Europe talking about light. I dove deep down the rabbit hole and learned that there’s so much more to our body’s function than just the fuel that’s going in. That light and energy have such a critical role.
Did you have any presenting health problems?
Yes. When I was younger, I was mostly having headaches daily, chronic gut issues, chronic allergies to pollen and all these sorts of allergies, low-level chronic issues that thankfully weren’t fatal or anything horrible. It’s enough that I was not happy with how I felt every day. I was tired and I didn’t sleep well. I didn’t even know that that was an issue at the time. It was a bit of a bother for me as a teenager.
What you’re describing doesn’t sound that uncommon to me.
That’s the crazy part about it.
Sunscreen is not a good thing for our bodies. Our body makes sunscreen and it’s called a tan.
Most teenagers are like, “I need another energy drink. I should have some coffee or I’ll get into exercise.” They’re trying every which way but they’re missing that big yellow orb in the sky.
I was fortunate that I was blessed with curiosity. Once I learned about things like the paleo diet and the concept of epigenetics, where we can modify our own gene expression through certain environmental factors, I wasn’t prepared to stop learning until I found something that scratched my itch. It was as if I was born to find something.
The curiosity that you’re describing describes a lot of our readers. I’m excited that they’re reading this blog. Let’s take it from the top. Help us understand how sunlight is a nutrient.
Sunlight is the primary source of energy that powers life on Earth. Life is this beautiful dance of biochemistry, energy and matter in particular and water. The most dominant energy source for life on Earth is the sun. As life evolved out of the depths of the ocean and started coming up to the surface, life began to utilize this big flaming ball in the sky of energy, that free energy that can be used to help catalyze reactions, all of these cool processes that were sculpted and driven by light. In other words, it wasn’t that life evolved innately in and of itself. The environment that was present drove certain evolutionary advances to occur.
In other words, having the sun present offered certain wavelengths of energy that could interact in certain ways with different molecules that absorbed those wavelengths of energy and could create life. It’s like a sunlight-driven process that energy of the sun allowed for certain things to happen. Because there are so many wavelengths in the sun or in the solar spectrum, those different wavelengths can each be used to power different reactions in different processes.
If you look at the human body, you see all these proteins, biomolecules, water and things that absorb different wavelengths of sunlight. The more options we had and there’s a lot in the sun that comes to Earth in great amounts, the more complexity we could build. We see that blue light affects and controls our body’s circadian timing, which controls our entire autonomic nervous system, all the vegetative functions, our heartbeat, breathing and hormone secretions. It’s from blue light wavelengths, a specific range of blue light.
If you look at ultraviolet B, it’s used for vitamin D. If you look at ultraviolet A, that stimulates blood flow and the release of nitric oxide in our blood cells. You can see with red light, it optimizes mitochondrial function. Infrared light causes water to become structured and to hold energy in a special way as per the work of Gerald Pollack in The Fourth Phase of Water. Sunlight is not just a vitamin but it’s the greatest multivitamin ever. If we were deficient in any other vitamins in our diet, if we’re deficient in full-spectrum sunlight, our body can’t work because the reactions can’t be powered the way they need to be.
What you’re saying is amazing because I feel like so many people are like, “I need my vitamin D.” They look at the sun as the conduit for that one thing and they don’t realize that there’s so much more. The thing that I feel like we’re all deficient in is exposure to the sun because we spend most of our time indoors.
There was a cool band of light researchers in the ‘60s and ‘70s and there’s still some. They have some predecessors. I’d like to be one of their predecessors because they seem like cool guys, even though I’m not a traditional practicing scientist. I’m more of an interested person and an entrepreneur. Dr. John Ott and his colleagues coined this term called mal-illumination. You can be malnourished but as beings of light, you can also be mal-illuminated, lacking in light. Mal-illumination is the condition you’re referring to that afflicts everyone in the modern world who doesn’t get outside in ample amounts.
You couldn’t have said it better because we’re deficient. We don’t have these wavelengths of light, the red-orange, yellow, green, blue, violet and the infrared and the ultraviolet, which fill up our stores as a vitamin would. The cool thing about Chemistry and Biochemistry, people who are familiar with these things, can know this because every biomolecule, molecule and atom absorbs certain wavelengths of light.
When the light required by a certain reaction is present and those molecules or atoms can absorb that light, those reactions can proceed more quickly, effectively and efficiently because the products in the reactants have the energy to speed things up. Every single reaction in the entire body effectively can be enhanced by one or another of the wavelengths of light coming from the sun. The great thing to look at is mitochondrial energy reduction.
I can’t help but think of Dr. Price’s book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. He remarked that many indigenous people were unclothed. They would only put on clothes if they were going into town for a meeting or something. In some of the chapters, he talks about that. They were getting the benefits of the sun. What’s funny to me is this conversation might sound crazy to the person who has been told all their life, “Wear sunscreen. Wear sunglasses. Get out of the sun. It causes all kinds of damage.” Why are we getting the opposite message from the powers to be right out about the sun?
There are lots of theories about that. There are conspiracy theories and so on. I like to assume that people don’t have any mal-intent. I like to think that maybe it’s ignorance. If we look at the sun, you can see that like anything, if you have too much of it, it can be harmful. Ultraviolet light, for example, is powerful. If you get too much ultraviolet light, you can cause damage to the skin and eyes. In the same way, if you don’t get enough, you’re going to have vitamin D deficiency and all sorts of other issues.
We went from living outdoors all the time as humans and not suffering from a lot of these chronic illnesses. We were eating healthy food and we didn’t have as many chemicals. We then went indoors and change our environment radically. There was a period in the ‘20s when sunbathing became a massive craze. It was after this period in the ‘20s that the scientists started to come in and say, “These people who’ve been getting skin cancer. It’s probably because of sunlight.” We went back indoors and people started avoiding the sun.
In the early 1900s, they were using sunlight in Switzerland in these heliotherapy clinics to cure all sorts of diseases. The 1904 Nobel Prize was awarded for showing that sunlight can be used to cure lupus vulgaris, tuberculosis of the skin. Nonetheless, they did some limited focus studies showing that excess ultraviolet light in huge amounts could cause cancers in different animals. They conclude, “That must apply to humans,” even though it’s an isolated artificial ultraviolet light source in a lab on animals that oftentimes were nocturnal like mice and so on. It’s not conditions that replicate healthy light exposure.
I’m not advocating for anyone who’s gotten cooked themselves and get burnt. It’s about people getting back into nature and getting healthy amounts of exposure. In the news, they’re recalling all these big sunscreens because they’re finding these toxic chemicals in the sunscreen. There have been people in the natural health world talking about this for many years and all of a sudden, they’re finally catching up. Sunscreen is not a good thing for our bodies. Our body makes sunscreen and it’s called a tan. It’s in melanin and DNA. Our skin cells scatter their DNA upon exposure to ultraviolet light. The top-level cells die, scatter their DNA and it’s a perfect protector against ultraviolet radiation.
That’s a natural system that’s efficient and effective if we dose ourselves properly with sunlight. In those sunscreens, the chemicals are already toxic. They’re absorbed in our blood and then they get irradiated by ultraviolet light, which has been shown to make certain non-harmful chemicals carcinogenic once they’re irradiated. They become damaging after being irradiated with strong ultraviolet light. It’s a big mess when we’re talking about sunscreen and sunglasses.
I’ve also understood that when we wear sunglasses, it means that our brain gets a different message than the skin and the brain isn’t getting the message through the eyes to the hormonal glands to protect the skin. The brain, in other words, thinks it’s a different time of day so the skin isn’t getting protected. You’re more likely to get burned when you wear sunglasses than when you don’t.
It’s a good point. I wanted to touch on that as well. I’m glad you brought it up. There’s a great paper that shows that ultraviolet B light passing through the eye is the same range of light that makes vitamin D. When it passes through the eye, it stimulates the production of the alpha-melanocytes stimulating hormone. Alpha-melanocytes stimulating hormone or alpha MSH for short is what stimulates melanocytes, the cells in the skin that make melanin, which is the pigment that protects our skin and our eyes from excess light.
In the same way that a chameleon or an animal adjusts its color to the background that it’s on in order to be protected, that stimulus is the light going through their eye. If you put a chameleon or one of these animals on a brown background, you might think they would turn brown. If the space above their eyes is white so they see white then they’ll still stay white even on a brown background. In other words, the signal for the adapt patient, in that case, goes through the eye. It’s the same for us. The stimulus to make the melanocytes is primarily the light coming through the eye.
It’s not necessarily on a moment-to-moment basis, although it is as well, over a period of time, when it’s summertime, the brain gets this constant stimulus of UVB. We make more melanocytes over that time and we’re protected. If we’re wearing sunglasses, we don’t. You’re right. We’re downregulating our body’s natural protective system, which is the most effective and efficient to adjust to the different light levels. We’re slapping on this chemical sunscreen that’s not even fully efficient at protecting our skin and it’s highly toxic on many levels.
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To read some of the practical tips Matt, check out Wise Traditions episode 332.
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Our guests were Bruce Lipton, Sally Fallon Morell and Matt Maruca. You can find Bruce at BruceLipton.com. Sally has her blog NourishingTraditions.com. You can find Matt’s course and other resources at RaOptics.com. Now, for a review from Apple Podcasts, “Holy smokes,” says much Healthier Cody, “I cannot stress enough how much this show changed my life. I have always been healthier but never vegan or crazy like that but I’ve taken my health journey to a whole new level. I would love to know, last but not least, what Hilda says at the end of the show in a different language.” Cody, thank you for this review. It means a lot.
You too are welcome to leave us a review on the Apple Podcasts site. Click on ratings and review. Give us a bunch of stars and tell us what you think of the show. What I say at the end usually is, “Hasta pronto,” which means, “See you soon,” in Spanish. Thank you for reading. Stay well. This time I’m going to say Feliz Año Nuevo, which means Happy New Year. See you in 2022.
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Important Links:
- Dr. Bruce Lipton
- The Biology Of Belief
- Sally Fallon Morell
- Ra Optics
- FleetwoodOnsite.com/Wise/2021/Stream
- Optimal Carnivore
- Amazon.com/optimalcarnivore
- Bruce Lipton
- Episode 330, Change Your Programming
- Episode 319 – Timeless Principles Of Healthy Traditional Diets (Part 1)
- BetterHelp.com/wisetraditions
- OneEarth health.com
- Episode 332 Sunlight: The Greatest Multivitamin
- The Fourth Phase of Water
- Dr. John Ott
- Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
- Apple Podcast – Wise Traditions
About Bruce H. Lipton
Bruce H. Lipton, PhD is an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. Stem cell biologist, bestselling author of The Biology of Belief and recipient of the 2009 Goi Peace Award, he has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows, as well as keynote presenter for national and international conferences. In 1982, Dr. Lipton began examining the principles of quantum physics and how they might be integrated into his understanding of the cell’s information processing systems. He produced breakthrough studies on the cell membrane, which revealed that this outer layer of the cell was an organic homologue of a computer chip, the cell’s equivalent of a brain. His research at Stanford University’s School of Medicine, between 1987 and 1992, revealed that the environment, operating though the membrane, controlled the behavior and physiology of the cell, turning genes on and off.
His discoveries, which ran counter to the established scientific view that life is controlled by the genes, presaged one of today’s most important fields of study, the science of epigenetics. Two major scientific publications derived from these studies defined the molecular pathways connecting the mind and body. Many subsequent papers by other researchers have since validated his concepts and ideas. Dr. Lipton’s novel scientific approach transformed his personal life as well. His deepened understanding of cell biology highlighted the mechanisms by which the mind controls bodily functions, and implied the existence of an immortal spirit. He applied this science to his personal biology, and discovered that his physical well-being improved, and the quality and character of his daily life was greatly enhanced.
Dr Lipton’s work summarizing his findings, entitled, The new updated 10th Anniversary Edition of The Biology of Belief, (Hay House Publishing, softcover, ISBN 978-1-4019-4891-7). His second book, Spontaneous Evolution, Our Positive Future and a Way to Get There From Here. (Hay House Publishing, ISBN 978-1-4019-2580-2) and his third book, The Honeymoon Effect, The Science of Creating Heaven on Earth. (Hay House Publishing, ISBN 978-1-4019-2386-0).
About Sally Fallon Morell
Sally Fallon Morell, MA, President, is best known as the author of the best-selling cookbook, Nourishing Traditions®: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats.
This well-researched, thought-provoking guide to traditional foods contains a startling message: animal fats and cholesterol are not villains but vital factors in the diet, necessary for normal growth, proper function of the brain and nervous system, protection from disease and optimum energy levels.
Sally Fallon Morell is founding president of the Weston A. Price Foundation and editor of the Foundation’s quarterly magazine. She also founded A Campaign for Real Milk (www.realmilk.com). At its inception in 1998, the website listed only twenty-eight sources of raw milk in the U.S. Today there are over two thousand, with many hundreds more not listed. Raw milk is the fastest growing agricultural product in the US; this growth has been largely stimulated by the information provided at realmilk.com.
She is also president and owner of NewTrends Publishing, serving as editor and publisher of many fine books on diet and health, including other books in the Nourishing Traditions® series.
Her latest book, co-authored with Thomas S. Cowan, MD, is The Contagion Myth: Why Viruses (including “Coronavirus”) Are Not the Cause of Disease (Skyhorse Publishing 2020).
In 2009, Sally and her husband Geoffrey Morell embarked on a new venture: they purchased a farm in Southern Maryland. P. A. Bowen Farmstead is a mixed-species, pasture-based farm that produces award-winning artisan raw cheese, whey-fed woodlands pork, pastured poultry and pastured eggs. The farm does not use corn, soy, GMOs, pesticides, herbicides, hormones or antibiotics.
About Matt Maruca
Matt Maruca is a researcher, educator, and entrepreneur in the field of photobiology: the study of light in health. He is the founder and CEO of Ra Optics, which makes the world’s most advanced Screen and Sleep Glasses for protecting and optimizing our health in the modern world. He loves to travel, to learn, and to live with love. Learn more at RaOptics.com.
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Shawnalee says
Too bad I can’t afford to be in your club.
Because I tell people about Dr. Price’s studies after they watch “FAT FICTION” the bravest documentary film that sites the source and results on us, the general public, lead by the nose for 50years to believe Doctors always know better than our instincts and intuition. We taught to follow the conventional dietary guidelines of the food pyramid. The food pyramid is upside down
and is the cause of obesity and type 2 diabetes.