Did you receive the COVID shot and experience any adverse events? Do you know anyone that was injured or died unexpectedly after receiving the shot?
Mark Skidmore, an expert in public finance and policy evaluation, has been scouring reports from vaccine manufacturers and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System to get answers. He has even conducted a survey to pose the very questions above. His goal? To try to get a handle on just what the fallout has been (so far) from the COVID vaccination initiatives in the U.S. He communicates what he’s learned on today’s episode.
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Did you receive the COVID shot and experience any adverse events? Do you know anyone that was injured or died unexpectedly after receiving the shot? Our guest is Mark Skidmore, an expert in public finance and policy evaluation. Mark put his experience to work by looking into reports from COVID vaccine manufacturers, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and a survey to pose the very questions I asked at the top.
His goal is to try to get a handle on what the fallout has been so far from the COVID vaccination initiatives in the United States. At the time of this interview in 2022, the official FDA and CDC position indicated that there had only been nine fatalities from the shot, but other sources suggest that the number is much higher, approximately 300,000 and growing.
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Welcome to the show, Mark.
It’s nice to be here, Hilda.
I’m so glad you’re here. I‘m curious. When did you start to become skeptical of the efficacy of the COVID vaccine?
I became concerned at the very beginning of this whole process with my background in Economics. When we had these massive lockdowns, at first, it was supposed to be just for a couple of weeks but then it got extended. I began to question the wisdom of that and wondered whether there were other motivations. That was the trigger mark for me, looking more carefully at this whole process of going through the COVID crisis, and then the great anticipation that we’ve got to hold on until we get the vaccines.
We know that these vaccines are a form of gene therapy. It’s a brand-new type of vaccine. We can talk more about the nature of this type of product as we move forward. It was a real question. I was sitting in with a group of concerned Doctors for COVID Ethics. They’re working through the mechanisms of potential harm with this type of gene-based technology. In the midst of all of that, a family member experienced a significant neurological problem. She can’t even walk very well right after she was vaccinated.
Another person that I know experienced pericarditis and got sick following the vaccine. My wife knows somebody who was in her 40s and had a heart attack and died right after the vaccination. The average age of a person who has a first heart attack in the United States is about 65 years of age. It’s uncommon for a 40-plus years old middle-aged woman to have a heart attack and then die. That made me wonder. If it is so rare, how is it that I know at least three people in my social circles who experienced an adverse event?
Is that where you got the idea to conduct a survey about adverse events and fatalities resulting from these shots?
We’re sitting on our weekly calls with Doctors for COVID Ethics. They can see individual cases of events occurring. The mechanisms of harm are outlined. We can see data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System that the Federal government tracks. We know that those data are only partial and that not all events get reported. We can’t verify if those events are caused by the vaccine, although it’s typically a medical professional that inputs those data, and they have to have the batch number for the vaccine and all kinds of information. It’s very cumbersome to fill out.
We have that and some other sources that were emerging indicators that there was harm occurring, but we didn’t know how much. We thought a survey could help us understand what was happening in a broader sense. It was a personal experience but also engaging with doctors who are very concerned about this type of vaccine technology.
How did you go about it? What was the scope of the survey?
It was an online survey of 3,000 people. It gives you a pretty good confidence interval. It’s still small relative to large medical studies, but it’s representative of the US population. We asked them a series of questions about their health experiences with the COVID illness, and then a balanced question about their health experiences with the COVID vaccine, whether or not they had been vaccinated, and whether or not they received any experience in adverse events. That information is helpful.
About 16% said they experienced an adverse event, which is pretty high. Most of it was, “I felt sick for a day or two,” but some people said, “I had a heart problem. I was sick for days. I had a neurological problem or a blood clot.” There were people in that group, but if you were sick or maybe you passed away from either the COVID illness or the COVID inoculation, you couldn’t complete this survey. It’s only partial.
The important part of this survey is where I ask questions about what happened to people you know in your family, your friend groups, and your immediate social network. That group turns out to be not too big because you have to know them well enough to know whether they have been vaccinated and whether they experienced direct harm from that. That has a much better chance of capturing the flavor of what’s happening around the country than just asking people about their experiences.
Did the results line up with your own experience in that people had seen adverse reactions among friends and family members and even fatalities at a greater rate than the numbers that we have seen from the CDC or the pharmaceutical companies were putting out?
If you go on the CDC website, the explanation is that these vaccines are safe and effective. They officially acknowledge that there have been nine fatalities from the vaccines, primarily from the J&J vaccination through blood clots. That’s it. If you go to the VAERS data system focusing on the US over the 2021 period or that first year of the vaccine rollout, you might have about 9,000 fatalities in the United States.
Why are those numbers so vastly different?
For some reason, we’re not looking closely at the VAERS-reported adverse events. Our government isn’t looking. They’re saying, “Those are just reports. We don’t really know if they’re caused by the vaccine. We’re not looking at it,” but if you go into the VAERS system and look at the explanations for blood clot, stroke, heart-related problems, heart attacks, myocarditis, pericarditis, and neurological problems, there’s a whole host of problems that match perfectly with some of the issues that Pfizer identified as potential problems, but we’re not looking.
We have about 9,000 fatalities in the official VAERS data through the first year of the vaccine. Pfizer documents, which were released by court orders, within the first two months, there were 1,200 fatalities recorded. It’s astounding that these data be restricted for 75 years. A group of doctors called Doctors for Transparency issued a FOIA request, which was denied. They went to court to get it. Fortunately, the judge said, “We’re not going to wait 75 years. You need to start releasing these data.”
Pfizer has been releasing incrementally a bunch of information about what they have been doing as part of the trials before the release of the vaccine as well as what happened in the first weeks of vaccination nationwide. In those studies, they are reporting 1,200 fatalities and tens of thousands of adverse events. For some reason, the total number of people that were being tracked had been redacted. You can’t work out the injury rates. We have this data, yet officially there are nine fatalities.
I don’t buy the, “We’re not paying attention to the other data.” It seems almost deliberate because it’s right there in black and white from Pfizer’s documents and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. It‘s there in black and white. It’s one thing if a ten-year-old doesn’t see it. They missed it because they’re going to school, but these are people who are supposedly dedicated to public health.
They approved it for 6-month-olds to 5-year-olds. If you look at the official government report, there have been only nine fatalities. Any adverse events are very minor and any serious ones are extremely rare. You go to the VAERS data and get a different story. The total number of deaths and fatalities exceeds the sum of all other vaccine adverse events for all types of vaccines since the system began in 1990, just in 2021 for the COVID vaccine. We can say, “We can’t verify all of those reports,” but just the change in 2021 for me is enough to be a huge red flag, yet it’s not.
Importantly, I’m thankful for people like you who are doing these shows and being open to talking about it. If you go to the mainstream media, you are not going to get this information. If it is, it will pop and then disappear. It’s not highlighted. If you go and dig, you can find this out but if you are super busy, you have a family, you’re busy working, and you turn on ABC or NBC, you’re not going to get any information about this. To me, that is a crime. We will talk about the survey estimates. It’s a fraud on a massive scale to tell people it’s safe and not give them the information.
It’s a fraud on a massive scale to tell people something is safe and not give them the information.
It is unethical, which leads me to the fact that you presented the survey results to the Doctors for COVID Ethics Symposium 3. Talk to us about those results and what the response was from the doctors’ gathered data.
The gathering was all about the issues around this to try to help people become more informed about the potential risks of the vaccine. I’m not a doctor but I’ll briefly explain in my layman’s understanding of how this technology works. You have a nanolipid that delivers instructions that recode your cells to produce a piece of the Coronavirus called the spike protein. With a typical vaccine, the contents of the injection stay in the muscle of the arm where you’re vaccinated. The nanolipids were designed for gene therapy or cancer where you need to deliver something throughout the body.
These nanolipids deliver those instructions to produce spike proteins not just to the arm but throughout the whole body. You could end up with cells producing spike proteins in your heart, and then you get heart problems. You could end up breaking the blood-brain barrier and going into your brain or other parts of your neurological system. You end up with neurological problems. You could end up producing spike protein in your bloodstream or your circulatory system, resulting in clots and strokes.
All of these things are possible. If you go on the official side of things, those events are extremely rare according to them. My personal experience and what these doctors are saying is that it could be far more common than we realize. That was the motivation for the survey. You focus on the part about, “Do I know in my immediate social circle who experienced COVID illness and had problems? Who do I know who received a vaccination and experienced an adverse event?”
What we learned is that about 34% of the respondents indicated they knew somebody who had been ill from COVID and had problems. Maybe that’s not surprising. About 22% of the respondents said, “I know at least one person who experienced a significant health problem after vaccination.” We asked them, “What was it? What happened?” In the case of COVID illness, they might say, “That person died. They experienced ongoing respiratory problems. Their taste disappeared.” Some of those problems will likely resolve over time, and some are more serious.
It’s the same thing with the COVID vaccine. What happened? “My friend got a blood clot and had to have his leg amputated. They had heart problems. My cousin had a heart attack and died. So-and-so has neurological problems.” Think about this. This is a survey of 3,000 people where 22% said, “I know somebody who got inoculated. They had a problem.” What was it? Of that group, about 57 said the person they knew best died following inoculation. To put that in reference to the COVID illness, about 165 people said, “The person I knew best who had a problem died.”
The ratio of COVID inoculation death to COVID illness death is about 35%. Keep in mind the ratio of COVID inoculation deaths to COVID illness deaths. That’s high when you think about the fact that there were about 900,000 people who died from COVID. The government says only nine people died. The ratio is 9 to 900,000. It’s 0.0001% or whatever it is. If you take the VAERS data, which is not verified, it’s about over 900,000. If you compare 1% to 35%, that’s a huge difference. It’s a statistically significant difference.
The ratio of COVID inoculation deaths to COVID illness deaths is 35%.
That gives you a sense. Either my survey is off or the government data is off. I feel pretty comfortable with my data because it matches the US census data in terms of education, political affiliation, age, and income. All of the demographics match pretty well with the census. I feel I’ve done a pretty good job capturing a representative sample. There’s something wrong here. Is it the survey that’s wrong? Is it the government reporting on these injuries that’s wrong?
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What can we do? Number one, we can examine your inoculation decision, whether it depends on what you see in your social network. If you see somebody who got sick from COVID, you’re more likely to be inoculated because that’s scary. COVID has all kinds of problems, or maybe they died. That’s important, but what’s even more important is if there’s somebody in your social network who experienced an adverse event from the vaccine, or maybe they died. In that case, you’re far less likely to be inoculated because it hit you like, “This person got hurt. I don’t think I’m going to do this.”
Behaviorally, they’re responding to their experiences. The last thing I’ll say is that with this ratio of reported COVID vaccine deaths to COVID illness deaths, you can back out an estimate of the nationwide fatalities under the assumption that the survey is more accurate than the government reporting. If we do that, we get about 290,000 fatalities in the first year of the rollout of the vaccine.
Where you’re leading us is to consider all of the factors, not just the propaganda and the promotion of the vaccines but all of the factors and the risks related to getting the injection. People who do open their eyes would notice even in terms of people they don’t know that are getting hurt. I don’t know if you know this, but Justin Bieber is a popular singer. Half of his face is now paralyzed. He’s dealing with something. His wife had a stroke. Both of them are in their twenties.
We need to pay attention. People who are paying attention might see that what happened to them could be an adverse reaction to a vaccination. We have seen athletes since the vaccine was introduced simply fall over onto the field and be carted off. We don’t know if they had a heart problem or if it was a sudden stroke, but this is not behavior that’s typical of strong athletes who are usually in their prime in performance mode.
If you look within the soccer or football area, there are always a few athletes who collapse during a game. It could be that they had a heart issue they didn’t know about, or it was the heat and they collapse. Maybe a few would die over the course of a year. There has been over a 1,000-fold increase in the number of collapses and fatalities on the soccer field globally. It’s so in your face. It’s hard not to see it.
Is this true? Are they starting to say that there is a condition called Sudden Adult Death syndrome? They used to say there was Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, and now they’re labeling it Sudden Adult Death Syndrome. This doesn’t come out of nowhere. This is something that’s increasing. I want to invite the audience and all of us to open our eyes to pay attention to what’s happening and start to put 2 and 2 together.
There’s this normalization occurring or an attempt to normalize this idea that not just old people sometimes die of natural causes, that sometimes they will just collapse, and that this is a phenomenon that’s unrelated to the vaccine. If we’re willing to look honestly, we can make the connection to the vaccine. It’s very troubling. There are other ways of backing this out. The fifth-largest insurance company in America is called Lincoln. It had a 163% increase in death benefits. It’s a huge increase in payouts.
That means a lot more people in that working group. Old people typically don’t have life insurance. My kids are almost grown. My term life will come to an end in the next few years. I don’t need it anymore. It’s usually young people who have some form of life insurance so that if they pass away, their family is taken care of and that kind of thing. A 163% increase over previous years is phenomenal. That is happening. That’s another point to triangulate.
That’s interesting to contrast that with the number of deaths from COVID. In 2020, people are dying of COVID but the increase didn’t happen during the COVID time. The increase happened when the vaccine was already in place. A majority of the population, according to what we have been told, was getting inoculated. Why would there be more deaths then than in previous years?
If you look at 2019 and 2020, there’s a slight increase from ’19 to ’20. There’s a huge increase in ’21, the year of the vaccine rollout. You have to remember too that most healthy people who are under the age of 60 typically manage COVID. If you have health problems, it can get you and it can be a real problem, but it’s the older people who typically don’t have insurance who die from COVID. Something happened in 2021 that led to this change. The prime candidate is the vaccine.
If you look at government data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2021, there was an increase in three million people on disability. You have to ask the question, “Why the increase in 2021?” My estimate is that there are about 300,000 fatalities, about 1 million serious adverse events, and about 3 million adverse events of all types, including less serious ones like you were sick for several days.
I want to pivot now and ask you about the future. I want to ask you about what you foresee. We have approved in the US under emergency use authorization the shot for 6-month–olds to 5-year-olds. Are they going to still be promoting these shots in the US and around the world? Is it going to be incorporated into our normal vaccine schedule for children?
One of the goals is to work it in because that provides additional protection for the vaccine companies if it can get worked into the vaccine schedule and be normalized. I don’t think they’re going to change. If they acknowledge the problem, they have to acknowledge a crime and other motivations besides the well-being of the global population. We’re going to keep seeing it be pushed. I don’t know if that’s true. More people are experiencing adverse events. Fewer people are wanting to take the booster. It may be that the demand for it will go away unless they double down and try to mandate it or increase it.
The pressure is on mandates. Fewer people are wanting to take it. I want to offer a bigger picture about this mRNA technology because the idea and the vision that these companies have for this mRNA technology in terms of delivering different types of inoculations is that you can modify the programming, the code, or the instructions that could tell your body cells to produce something it wouldn’t normally produce. Right now, it’s a spike protein for the original Coronavirus that we experienced initially, and then we had Omicron and other types. The further away you get from the original, the spike protein design doesn’t match it as well, as I understand it.
An article came out in The New England Journal of Medicine, which is the prime medical journal. It showed that after six months, the vaccines give you negative efficacy. Any benefit that you receive goes to zero and negative, whereas if you get COVID and recover maybe with the help of effective antivirals, you have that lasting immunity. That came out in The New England Journal of Medicine. The idea of the mRNA technology is that you can offer modified content so that you can inject instructions to have your cells produce something a little bit different, maybe a new type of spike protein, or a new component from a different virus.
The vision of this technology is that you could address a whole variety of illnesses and provide treatments in a plug-and-play or almost like a reprogramming of your body to produce something like the spike protein but in other contexts. That’s the long run. What’s at stake in the medical pharmaceutical arena is, “Is this technology safe?” This was the first time it has been used population-wide. It’s a big experiment. Is it working? Everything is hinging on this because they have plans to do it over and over again in the future.
What do you mean they have plans to do it over and over again in the future?
If there’s another virus, a pandemic, or some other illness, then you can tweak the contents of the instructions and then move everybody in the direction of being inoculated with the contents of the modified instructions.
Have you ever encountered a skeptic who’s like, “I don’t buy what you’re saying. This was a warp–speed move to get vaccines.” People are getting COVID, even those who are vaccinated but honestly, it’s at least preventing them from going to the hospital. It’s the person who buys everything they have heard from the CDC and the World Health Organization. How do you respond to the skeptic who doesn’t even buy all these numbers that you’ve been throwing out?
It’s difficult to open the minds and hearts of somebody. If you have faith in a structure, a system, and the authorities, and you’ve emotionally committed to it, let’s say you went ahead and received the vaccine and everything was seemingly okay, and then you hear somebody like me or somebody who is far more qualified than me as a medical professional such as Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Ryan Cole, or Sucharit Bhakdi from Germany. These are all highly qualified and credentialed not just physicians but researchers. Even Luc Montagnier who is a Nobel Prize winner who passed away late in 2022 said, “This type of vaccine technology is unsafe.” Even Robert Malone who has patents on this mRNA technology has fought against this stuff.
It doesn’t persuade the person who already has a skeptical mindset.
I have talked with lots of people. I feel a responsibility to try to share information with others because their health is on the line. Whether I’m successful or not, I’m hoping that I can at least plant a seed so that if there’s something that triggers a question in their minds, it might help them. That’s a very difficult conversation to have. Sometimes people get quite upset about it. I don’t have a magic bullet in terms of sharing information. It’s a struggle.
It is for a lot of us. We want to help those around us but if they have already invested in the system and gotten inoculated, it’s very hard to see it in a different light because you’ve bought into that paradigm. You don’t want to think you were wrong. It’s hard to let go of your previous way of thinking unless you have a personal experience yourself or someone around you. That might have a greater influence.
We are grateful for the work that you’re doing in getting the word out on this important data that might help open some eyes. We do hope that is one of the results of this show. I want to pose to you the question I would like to pose at the end here. I pose it at the end of pretty much every show. If the audience could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?
Is this a broad question? Is this a question with regard to COVID? Maybe I’ll answer both. I love your website and the mission of the foundation because it invites people to live healthy lives, eat good food, and try to manage their health in a way that makes them more resilient to illness. My first piece of advice is to do your homework and then make a commitment to living a lifestyle that helps you move in the direction of greater overall health.
Adjust your weight and your diet if needed. Make sure that you’re receiving the proper nutrients. In the context of COVID, we know that vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, and then other types of zinc ionophores like quercetin or hydroxychloroquine can help you not only get better if you are sick but help prevent you from becoming ill with COVID. Let’s do all of those things first to be healthier. Sometimes that may require a major commitment to change your lifestyle. That’s the first thing.
The second thing I would say is that there is growing evidence that there are effective antiviral treatments that help people deal with COVID if they do get sick. We know now that natural immunity is much stronger than anything the vaccine offered. We know now that the vaccine, after several months, any efficacy that it had goes away. It is even negative. We know now that there are clear mechanisms of injury and that they’re more common than what the government is acknowledging or what the companies are acknowledging or what we might see in the media. You have to do your work, try to study through it, collect information, and make a good decision for your family and yourself.
When someone in your family gets COVID, you have to do your own work, try to study through it, collect information, and make a good decision for your family.
I’m speaking as a layperson but after what I’ve seen, I will never get this type of vaccine. I’m not anti-vaccine all the way. I have learned much about vaccination over the period that I’ve studied all of this. I worry about the whole vaccine schedule and the heavy metals that could be introduced to people, but I’m all for a safe vaccine if it’s effective like tetanus. In this case, the risk-benefit is off the charts. That’s where I come down. I cannot speak as a physician or a medical professional. I can only look at these data and try to understand them.
Thank you for doing your homework and sharing your heart. We are so thankful for you, Mark. We appreciate your time.
Thank you, Hilda. I am glad to have a chance to meet you and talk with you.
Our guest was Mark Skidmore. Visit his website for more resources at Mark-Skidmore.com. I‘m Hilda Labrada Gore, the host and producer of this show for the Weston A. Price Foundation. You can find me at HolisticHilda.com. For a recent review from Apple Podcasts, Beebasd said, “Interesting. I don’t always agree with everything on this show but I always learn something new.“
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About Mark Skidmore
Mark Skidmore serves as Professor and Morris Chair in State and Local Government Finance at Michigan State University. He has joint appointments in the Department of Agricultural, Food and Resource Economics and the Department of Economics, and is a Distinguished Scholar at the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy. He received his doctorate in economics from the University of Colorado in 1994, and his bachelor’s degree in economics from the University of Washington in 1987. Professor Skidmore conducts research on public sector economics, regional economics and economics of natural disasters (including pandemics).
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