What The Nurses Saw: The Perversion Of Medicine During COVID With Ken Mccarthy

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They say that those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. This is why we are releasing this podcast focused on what happened in hospitals during the “pandemic.” Ken McCarthy is the author of “What the Nurses Saw,” and today he reveals the systemic issues in patient care that occurred during the time of COVID-19—from unethical changes in the standards of care for patients to the unprepared staff and unhelpful hospital hierarchy to incentives for the use of ventilators and for labeling deaths as covid-related.

It played out like a horror show instead of health care, according to Ken. And anyone who dared to call out what was happening was censored or had their license revoked or were publicly shamed. It was a blatant attack on free speech. Ken boldly reminds us of what happened only four or five years ago and explains why this all matters now.

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Episode Transcript

Within the below transcript the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Ken Mccarthy.

Unveiling The Truth: What Nurses Saw During The Pandemic

Many of us were on lockdown in 2020. We didn’t go to the hospital unless it was an emergency, so we had no idea what was happening behind closed doors. That was years ago, so why are we revisiting what happened then? This is episode 518, and our guest is Ken McCarthy. He is a citizen journalist and the author of What the Nurses Saw. He invites us to study history to avoid repeating it and what he calls the perversion of medicine that took place at that time.

Ken describes the issues that came up during the so-called pandemic in this episode. He reveals the systemic issues and patient care from unethical changes in the standards of care to the unprepared staff and unhelpful hospital hierarchy that included charges for the use of ventilators, COVID-related deaths supposedly, and other issues. He especially focuses on conversations he had with nurses who were in the trenches and saw what was going on and how anyone who dared to question the mainstream narrative was ostracized and even put their own license in jeopardy.

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Welcome to the show, Ken.

Thank you.

I’m so glad you’re here. You wrote that very riveting book. It’s almost like a horror novel, if people picked it up, called What the Nurses Saw. I wondered if we could kick off this conversation with a story from one of the nurses. I like that you did that Q&A style with the nurses. What is a story that shocked you into realizing that this story needed to be told?

A Story Of Panic, Intubation, And Preventable Death

The first thing I learned was that somebody else wrote another book with that title, so make sure when you’re searching that it’s the Ken McCarthy version. I also want to tell people there’s a website, WhatTheNursesSaw.com, where they can follow up on anything that we talk about in this episode. The people who have read the book know it was and continues to be on a lesser scale an horror show.

One of the most horrifying stories I heard, and there are so many. A young man came into a New York City public hospital in his 30s, and he was healthy. He was having a panic attack. Why was he having a panic attack? It was because he’d been bombarded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with terror about this dreaded disease that if you even looked at the wrong person the wrong way, you would die. He took that to heart.

He walked into this hospital with a breathing panic attack. They gave him a COVID test and designated him a COVID patient. They intubated him as quickly as possible, which was not a normal medical procedure, and killed him. He was a perfectly healthy guy and did not need to be intubated. Intubation is sticking the pipes down somebody’s throat. It’s a very invasive procedure and dangerous under the best of circumstances. It is likely to kill you.

As a last resort during COVID, they were putting everybody they could on a ventilator. This young man had no business being on a ventilator. He needed someone to speak kindly to him and help him calm down, and he died. We can multiply stories like that by tens or possibly hundreds of thousands. Not necessarily people with panic attacks but people who had no business being on a ventilator who died as a result of the ventilation, the drugs they were given, and so on.

Putting people on ventilators and giving them remdesivir and different treatments like this, some might say they were well-intentioned. They were initially thought to be lifesaving. What’s your take on it?

I can’t blame anybody in the first early days or even weeks. There were doctors and nurses who were told, “This is the disease. This is the nature of the disease. This is the treatment that we deem works,” so they applied the treatment. To experienced nurses and experienced doctors, these treatments were injuring and killing people, not helping. After the first couple of weeks, anybody that continued to participate in it was engaged in something very sinister that they were going to have to deal with on their conscience level.

The Nurses Who Fought Back And Didn’t

That was the most troubling bit for the nurses from what I’ve read in the book. Some of the nurses were doing their best to help the patients but they saw that something in the hierarchy of the hospital or some of the treatment modalities were not serving the patients well. Even though the nurses wanted to sound the alarm bells, they were ignored.

We have to get the percentages here. This is the most horrifying thing of this. I asked one of the nurses, “What percentage of the nurses fought back?” One of them didn’t answer. I said, “Was it less than 10%?” She said, “Yes, way less than 10%.” When we are talking about the nurses, we’re not talking about the majority of the nurses who fought back. We’re talking about a very small minority.

I don’t even want to know how small the percentage is. I personally can’t face that horror myself, so I’ll take it as less than 10% but it was less than 10%. Less than 10% of the nurses were willing to say, “This is injuring the patient. I have an ethical responsibility to speak for the patient,” because that is one of the professional requirements of being a nurse. You are the patient’s advocate. It’s not a touchy-feely thing. It’s right in your training. It’s right in your oath.

One of the professional requirements of being a nurse is being the patient’s advocate.

They are our last line of defense because doctors make mistakes and can be abusive. You need somebody to step in there and go, “No, Dr. We already gave this guy an insulin shot five minutes ago. I know you’re distracted and you want to give him another one. Let’s not kill him.” People make honest mistakes and then people make other kinds of “mistakes.” We need the nurses there to step up.

Why do you think that percentage was so low, Ken?

There are two things. Number one, remember, they had special COVID wards. This is a fundamental thing we have to remember. We need to remember this stuff. We should never forget what happened because it could happen again. They could put the key in, turn the engine, and start a whole other what I’m going to call a mass murder system. The book documents pretty clearly that that’s what it was.

One of the problems was if you got a positive COVID test and they would test you over and over again until they got a positive test. You went into an alternate medical and legal reality and you were put on a COVID floor or a COVID ward where decades or centuries even of medical experience went out the window. All laws of science went out the window. All laws of common sense and laws of basic human decency went out the window.

Who staffed these special COVID wards? Some of our nurses in the book were contract nurses. Their initial idea was, “We’re going to help out.” They thought initially that they were going into a battle that they may not survive. Remember, that’s how it was presented. It was, “If you get this, you’re a goner.” It’s the most transmissible disease that ever lived. This was the nonsense science they were selling us. They were going into danger.

However, the laws were changed in New York State. I don’t know every single state, but suddenly, if you were a foreign doctor, you could get on a plane, come to the United States, and practice medicine in a COVID ward. If anybody’s a doctor reading this, you know that that’s not how it works. If you could be the greatest orthopedic surgeon in Germany, the whole world comes to study with you. If you come to the United States, you qualify to be a janitor in a hospital until you jump through 10,000 hoops to practice medicine in the United States. They threw those laws out during COVID.

We had guys coming from God knows where who could barely speak English. I’m not sure they were all verified as doctors. At this point, I didn’t know what was going on. They were put in the COVID wards in charge of these patients. We also had nurses who not only were completely green and had no ICU experience at all, but some of them had not yet graduated from nursing school, let alone had any practical experience. These were the people who were put in charge of COVID patients in the New York City public hospitals with predictable results.

To answer your question, they didn’t know which end was up. They were like, “Do this.” They were paid very well. The nurses in New York City were paid $10,000 a week. That money came from Homeland Security. It was filtered through these human brokerage companies. There’s a better term for it, jobbers or whatever. If the nurses were making $10,000, the guy putting the nurses on the job was making at least $5,000 and maybe $10,000 himself and multiply that by hundreds.

I’m not a professional journalist or an investigative reporter. I’m a guy that was concerned. Somebody needs to find out who owned those human resource contracting companies and what those people’s connections were to various government people because millions of dollars were made. You had a flood of unqualified medical people thrown into the ICUs and put in charge of patients. That’s one of the reasons nurses didn’t stand up.

It was ignorance and fear.

Doctors were less likely to stand up. Nurses, as a percentage, were way more likely to say no. Nurses are a little tougher. They don’t have huge overheads that they’ve built for themselves. They have a blue-collar mentality like, “I go to work, do my job, and go home. If I can’t work here, I can work somewhere else.” For doctors, it’s a little different. They’re a little more afraid of losing their licenses. The other reason nurses didn’t stand up is if you did stand up, you were chastised, to say the least. One of our nurses is an airlift nurse for an air ambulance. There’s a plane wreck in the mountains, let’s say, and the only way to reach them is a helicopter. You can’t fit much medical equipment on a helicopter.

Severe trauma is the kind of job this nurse would go on. She worked in refugee camps in Syria. This is a pro trauma nurse. When she spoke up about remdesivir, she was taken out of the ICU and put in a room with a bunch of other nurses who’d also spoken up about the ICU. She was still getting paid but had nothing to do but fold towels. That was the lowest level of punishment.

The next level of punishment was being fired or an organization of trolls being set upon you personally to dox you, which means giving out your home address and inflaming a bunch of lunatics to start harassing you. The next level of punishment was to have these same people filing complaints against you at your local nursing board trying to get your nursing license taken away. It got so bad for one of our nurses.

She lived way out in the countryside. She’s beyond rural like three hours from the nearest small town. She had people showing up at her door. The level of harassment against anyone that dared to stand up was massive. Not only did these nurses have to witness people being killed and not being able to stop it, they were harassed and coerced. There’s a nurse group in Canada. The abuse the Canadian government has dropped on these nurses is unbelievable. It was like the Adam Bomb of legal assault on these good women who were only trying to do the right thing and save their patients. It’s one of the most despicable episodes in medical history.

A Personal Journey: From Neuroscience To COVID-19 Investigative Journalism

Let’s back up for a minute. I want to hear more of the nurses’ stories, but I also want to hear how you became interested as a regular Joe. You said you weren’t an investigative journalist. How did you become interested in helping their story be told and their voices be heard?

I’ve had plenty of experience with the medical profession through myself, family members, and friends. I’ve seen many atrocities and have experienced one myself. I am not a cheerleader for the way our medical system works, let’s put it that way. I’ve been aware of the perversion of medicine for a long time. I studied neuroscience at Princeton in the ‘70s as an undergraduate.

I’ll never forget. Our professor, Bart Hoebel, the guy who charted the dopamine pathway of the human brain, which is not a lightweight. This was ‘79. He once took a whole class to say, “I got pharma companies knocking on my door all day wanting to develop products around the science we’re developing. I want to tell you, folks, do not participate in this. We’re learning things about the brain, and one of the things we’re learning is you can alter brain chemistry. Do not do it lightly because there’s no going back once you start.” I had that in my brain.

 

I know the science. I didn’t go into that field, but I did get trained in it. When I saw the kids being like, “Here’s some Adderall. Here’s this. Here’s that.” I looked at the ingredients and was like, “Adderall has four different kinds of amphetamines.” I was horrified. I realized, “Pharma has become beyond evil.” You visit and see children who have been injured by vaccines and the fact that the parents were left high and dry, slandered, and gaslit. I am not a fan of the system in the way it works.

When I saw COVID come, I smelled a rat. My Twitter channel is frozen by X, or Twitter, or whatever they call it, but it’s still live for some bizarre reason. You can go to my Twitter channel, @KenMcCarthy, and go to my February 1st, 2020 post. This is when it was in China and it hadn’t even made it to Italy. I said, “This is a vaccine marketing exercise. They’re going to try to develop Coronavirus and use more speed than science.” I saw this coming a mile away because I know the science and a lot about marketing, and I’m a student of the history of propaganda. To me, this was blatantly obvious, so I started writing and trying to wake people up. That’s how I got to it.

I didn’t understand the significance of what had happened in the hospitals until the summer of 2023. I interviewed some of the nurses in 2020 because I’d seen them in the media and there were a lot of questions I had and I wanted better answers. I booked two long interviews, one with Erin Olszewski, easier called Nurse Erin, and then another with a wonderful nurse, PhD professor, and educator with 40 years of experience in the UK.

I got those interviews done and thought, “This is a heck of a story. I can’t wait to read articles about it someday by professional journalists. Maybe a book will come out.” 2020, 2021, and 2022 passed and it’s the middle of 2023 and I realized, “Nobody’s going to write about this. I better do it.” With my initial leads, I interviewed a whole bunch of other nurses, respiratory therapists, and then a forensic accountant. That’s what’s in the book. That’s how it came to be.

Thank you so much for doing this. I also got to interview some of the nurses. It was at the Defeat the Mandates Rally. I met some of them downtown. Their stories are so compelling. I want to go back to something you said, you saw the perversion of medicine and issues in healthcare or rather we should call the sick care system. Talk to us about what the agencies like HHS, NIH, and so forth had to do with what was going on in the hospitals during the time of COVID.

The Perversion Of Medicine: Incentivizing Harmful Treatments

The bottom line, they incentivized a whole bunch of treatments that made no medical, scientific, or ethical sense. Everybody hears about ivermectin. It was bland and that was a big deal, but that was smoke in mirrors. They also banned ibuprofen and inhalable steroids for COVID patients. That made no medical sense. That flew in the face of all medical practice. If you have an inflammatory problem with your lungs, the first thing you do is knock that inflammation down and the second thing you do is you get some steroids to help you.

Never in the history of modern medicine have people come to the hospital with a respiratory problem and been told they couldn’t get anti-inflammatories and steroids. I didn’t know this until I started researching the book. That was step one. This is the equivalent of a fire engine arriving at a house on fire and the firemen are told, “Stand back. We need to burn a lot more.” This is what they did. This was the protocol, and God help you if you didn’t follow the protocol.

This is a trick they use in the hospital all the time and I want to warn everybody about it. Be very careful about taking any psychoactive medications offered to you when you’re in a hospital. They say, “Do you need something to relax? Do you need something for your nerves?” I get painkiller, but that other class of drugs, why is it dangerous? They can then say, “This person is a danger to themselves and others. They agree to psychiatric medication.” It’s harder to get you out of the hospital. Believe me, many people’s lives were saved because they got out of the COVID hospital, and that’s going on even to this day.

 

Since we were told to stay away from the hospital and we were also afraid of the supposed virus, it made it hard to know what was true anymore. I don’t know if you saw the footage of some people saying, “The hospital wards are not overflowing. We’re not struggling with an influx of patients,” but the media was certainly painting it that way. What did the nurses see in terms of the influx of patients?

The Truth About Hospital Overcrowding: What The Nurses Saw

For instance, let’s take Erin. She’s a great hero of all this. She had a spokesperson speak for her. She stayed behind the lines, tried to save lives, and documented everything, which was hard. That was like being in battle. That was like deliberately saying, “There’s a battle I could walk away. I’m going to stay in it.”

The reason that Erin went from Florida to New York is she wanted to help. She had the skills but there was no work in Florida. They had closed everything down. There were minimal COVID patients. I asked her, “How many COVID patients survived that you saw in Florida in your area?” She said, “All but one.” I asked her, “How many survived in the New York City-run hospital where you were sent as a contractor?” She said, “None. Zero.” They all died versus one person.

This whole thing of dying of COVID, it’s like, “They were in stage 4 of cancer. They had very bad diabetes,” and they died of COVID. Even maybe that person in Florida that died did not die of COVID. It was a fraud that hospitals were slammed. The COVID wards might have been slammed, but in the actual normal hospitals, there was nothing to do.

I remember that you were talking about incentives. The hospitals were incentivized if the cause of death is COVID because they would get more money than if they said it was a regular cancer death. I have a personal story. A family member of mine had a stroke and other comorbidities. She had issues with a hernia and liver function. She passed and they labeled it as COVID. It’s so absurd. That’s what the hospital was doing because they were incentivized to do so.

This is so important. I’m glad you brought up the incentivization. How did this happen? The hospitals were paid big money to do this. They were told to follow the protocol. What else did the protocol include? We talked about the denial of basic anti-inflammatories and basic steroids, which is normal medicine. We’re not talking about some alternative thing that somebody pulled out of thin air. We’re talking about how you treat respiratory.

Many of the patients were put on psychoactive meds and tranquilizers. What does a tranquilizer do to your breathing? It reduces your ability to breathe because you breathe with a muscle. It’s a complicated thing, even though it’s quite simple. It seems simple when you do anatomy. The diaphragm is what allows you to breathe. It is a muscle. If you’re drunk or on heroin or an opioid, or a tranquilizer, your breathing capacity diminishes. They put people on drugs that they knew would diminish breathing capacity.

The next thing they did was say, “You’re not doing too well. Let’s put a BiPAP on you.” That is a form of venting but it’s non-invasive. It’s a mask tied tightly around your head and they pump air down your lungs. It is the equivalent of you driving a car at 80 miles an hour and as a passenger, you stick your head out the window. First of all, that is not the first thing you do with people. It’s a graduation. It’s like, “We tried this but it didn’t work. They’re in trouble. Let’s do the BiPAP.”

Normally, you tell people, “It’s intense. You might feel fear. We’re going to be here. We’re going to take care of you. If you’re worried, we’re here.” That’s not how they did it during COVID. They would slap this thing on people, not explain to people how incredibly uncomfortable it was, and then leave them alone in a room. A lot of people would go into a panic. I would. I’m in a hospital and I think I’m dying. I’ve got this thing on and no one has explained it to me. If I’m alone in a room, I’ll panic. More psychoactive drugs come out. Could their loved ones be there to look out for them? No. Could their doctor look out for them? No. Could their lawyer look out for them? No. They were alone.

The next thing is now that they’re in a woozy state, they’re like, “We got a cure for you. It’s called remdesivir.” Nobody knew what remdesivir was. Nobody knew it was a failed Ebola drug. Nobody knew one of the side effects of Ebola was your organs disintegrating rapidly. I don’t know if people remember, but in the very early days, they said, “This virus is unbelievable. It causes incredible organ damage.” That was the people that were given remdesivir.

Remdesivir was so not good for human beings that they stopped giving it to Ebola patients but they revived it for COVID and paid the hospitals to administer it. It’s administered via a bag and a drip and it goes into your arm. The hospitals got paid for every course. A course is multiple bags of this poison. We know of one case where a patient was given five courses of remdesivir, and every time, that cash register rang. I could almost weep.

After I wrote the book, I met with a group of families because I hadn’t talked to anybody who had a loved one die. Some of these people were virtually liquified. Their bodies were destroyed. That wasn’t COVID. That was the drugs. They were paid for every course of COVID. One of our nurses is named Nicole. She is like a Top Gun trauma nurse. She said, “I’m not giving anybody any more of this stuff. I see what it’s doing to people,” and that’s what got her kicked out. She’s the one that had people showing up at her door out in rural Nevada. You don’t know rural until you’ve seen rural Nevada.

Life On A Ventilator: The Harsh Reality Of Prolonged Suffering

The next level of incentivization was the vents. We have an interview with a respiratory therapist. Venting is dangerous. People die on vents. It’s the last thing you want to do. You don’t do it lightly. They would have people walk across the room, get on the phone, and tell their loved one, “They’re going to put me on a vent now.” If you can walk across a room and talk to somebody on the phone, you don’t need to be on a vent, but they were paying people to put them on vents with a five-figure fee.

Venting is dangerous. People die on vents. It’s the last thing you want to do.

Here’s the sinister thing. When you’re on a vent, an ethical respiratory therapist, doctor, and nursing team wants to get you off that vent as soon as possible. I’ll explain what venting means. It’s horrific. If you have to do it to save your life, then okay. They incentivized the hospitals to keep people on ventilators for 90-plus hours. The normal thing is you vent somebody and save their lives, and within 24 hours, you see if you can get them off and if they’re strong enough to breathe. Every day, you keep checking. They were incentivized to not check and keep somebody on for 90 days or more. Let me explain what venting is.

Tell us more.

Remember, I said you have this diaphragm and it’s a muscle. You could be in a car accident or some horrific thing happens and your diaphragm’s not working. If your diaphragm’s not working, you will be dead within minutes. That’s when you vent somebody. Thank God we have this technology and we have capable people, doctors, nurses, and respiratory therapists who know how to do this. You only do it then.

Here’s what venting means. You take a pipe, which they call the garden hose because it’s big, and jam it down somebody’s throat all the way down. You got to give them a feeding tube all the way down. Even if you do it right, there is a danger of injuring somebody in doing that. We’re not built to have pipes down. If you have to do it to save a life, then okay. It’s a balance.

To get that pipe down your throat, they have to give you a lot of drugs. One of the drugs they have to give you is the analgesic. One of the analgesics they give you is fentanyl. You also need to be given anti-paralytics. What’s an anti-paralytic? It keeps you from thrashing around, because even if you are unconscious, if you stick a pipe down somebody’s throat, your body is going to move. They have to paralyze you with drugs and then knock you out.

We’re not talking about giving you a pill or one injection. You have a line of drips in your arm that are permanent hanging bags for the whole time you’re on a vent. One of the jobs of the nurses is to come and change the bag. You have to watch these patients very carefully because these drugs are toxic. What did they do during COVID? They had the bags and the racks out in the hallways so that the nurses wouldn’t even go in and see the condition of the patient because it was too dangerous to go in.

Do you mean the lines were so long that the nurse could evaluate it from the outside?

They didn’t evaluate anything. When the bag was empty, they put a new bag in. I’m not even going to get into the condition some of these patients were in. I’m usually a cheerful, fun guy, but this is the reality of what happened.

I understand, and it’s helpful for us. I have to ask you. Are there people who say, “This was 2020. I don’t know why we’re bringing up all this old news. Let’s move on and make the best of life as it is.” What do you say to the skeptics who think this is old news?

Why Medical Advocacy Matters Now More Than Ever

This is a good point. Anytime you’re hospitalized, you better have somebody watching your back, not just COVID. One of the things we get into the book and it’s on the website, too, is there’s a new industry called medical advocacy. If you find yourself with a legal problem, a civil problem, or a criminal problem, you better get an attorney. You don’t want to go facing a judge and trying to figure it out on the fly. If you are in a hospital, in my opinion, you better call a medical advocacy company and get them on the job watching your back. That’s number one.

Number two, these protocols are still in place. If you’re in the wrong hospital at the wrong time and you’re the wrong person and they test you positive for COVID. They will run you through this same thing or the same gauntlet. We are getting reports of people dying this way up until this moment, so this is not over. Let me tell you about the scale and scope. Roughly a million people they say died of COVID, 92% of them died in hospitals.

We’re talking about an inconceivably large number of people who were killed and were seriously injured. Some people survived. This is a lot of people we’re talking about. The machinery that did this is still in place and it does not have a scratch on it. As I said at the beginning of the call, they can put the key in, turn the engine, and do it all over again.

In part, it’s still in place because there was censorship of anyone speaking out against the mainstream narrative. Whether it was about treatments or the incentives, there was hardly a peep about any of this and they made sure it stayed that way. Even now, we’re like, “It all worked out okay. They saved lives over there.”

It didn’t work out okay. It revealed a grave danger. My advice to people is to stay healthy, walk, follow Sally’s advice on eating, and get sunshine. We’re not immortal. Things are going to happen. Everybody should do research on what medical advocacy is. Be aware of a medical advocate company and have it in your Rolodex for yourself and your loved ones. It’s not free, but it’s not super expensive.

You need a medical advocate as much as you need an attorney. Let’s say you have a business. You need a tax attorney. Whether you like it or not, you have to hire one. It’s the same thing with medical advocacy. It’s a fledgling industry but I like the two people I know that are running the companies. They seem dedicated. You need it. That’s my big advice to people. Stay healthy and stay out of the hospital.

I have to tell you one other thing. I had a friend. He thought he had a heart attack and they said, “It’s good we got you. We got to operate on you tomorrow.” It turned out they didn’t have any surgeons and any space available, so they said, “Come back in three weeks.” It’s like, “Which is it? Is it so urgent that we have to do it right now or we can wait three weeks?” These guys are good at creating the scenario where you’ve got to act now on some invasive thing. That’s why you need a medical advocate.

I have a friend who had pre-cancerous cells in her breast and she did everything. She did all the treatments, chemo, and radiation. I remember her husband saying, “I’m so glad we caught the precancerous cell.” Was that a good idea? Granted, I’m not in their shoes, but there’s an overreach that happens and we need to be wise about what treatments we agree to.

They get paid when they do whatever the thing is they do and have been told that what they’re doing is great. They did a study of oncologists in Canada. They asked them, “If you had cancer, would you do all the stuff that you’re doing to patients?” Eighty percent of them said no. That’s something we need to think about. Also, on the oncology side, oncologists get a kickback on the chemo, and it is lucrative. Unfortunately, a lot of people do what’s in their best financial interest. It’s their reflex. Nobody in their circle is questioning them. In fact, were they to question what they’re doing, a lot of people would come down on them very hard.

This is the reality. We’ve got wonderful technology. We have some good doctors and nurses. I don’t want to freak people out, but I want people to understand these people are not necessarily your friends. The other thing, too, is when you’re in a hospital, you think, “My doctor. My nurse.” Those people are not your doctor and your nurse. They’re employees of the hospital, first and foremost. You come and go. They’re worried about their jobs.

You might go sooner than you’d like to go, so to speak. You were talking about staying healthy. I love to pose this question at the end of the episode to remind our readers that there are steps we can take to do so. If the reader could do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do?

Staying Healthy In A Broken System: Self-Advocacy Tips

This sounds like I’m shilling, but read Sally’s books for God’s sake and do what she says. Here’s the thing, we’re here because our ancestors did something right. They had hard lives. They didn’t have central air. They didn’t have antibiotics and somehow, we made it. They ate a very different food than we ate and all that food is available to us with a little bit of education. We’ve got to stay away from processed foods. We’ve got to look at what our great-grandparents ate.

We’re here because our ancestors did something right.

If they lived in the city, maybe they didn’t eat such good stuff, but if they were out in the countryside, they were eating very well. You can still see this in the Third World. That’s what I loved about Sally’s work. There are still places in the world that have not been destroyed where people still grow their own food and those folks are as healthy as horses. I was in Morocco a couple of years ago beyond the Atlas Mountains. Everybody was thin, clear-eyed, and healthy. They walked everywhere. The children were beautiful and friendly. I knew that it was true, but to see it was something else.

We can live ancestrally. Ken, thank you so much for this conversation. On behalf of the Weston A. Price Foundation, we are so grateful for your time.

Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Taking Action And Finding Reliable Health Info

Our guest was Ken McCarthy. Visit his website, What The Nurses Saw for more. You can find me at Holistic Hilda. Thank you so much for reading. We would love for you to join hands with us as a member of the Weston A. Price Foundation. This is our 25th year. It is a big deal. By joining hands with us, you become part of our whole movement to make the world healthy again.

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About Ken McCArthy

Ken McCarthy was a seminal pioneer both of the commercial Internet and citizen journalism. Time Magazine credits him with being the first person to recognize and articulate the importance of the click-through rate as a key metric for making the Internet commercially viable. In 1997, he launched the first news blog ever, a detailed account of an election fraud investigation in San Francisco as it unfolded. He was also a pioneer of, and in some cases directly initiated, the use of many now-common Internet publishing activities: email marketing (1994), banner advertising (1994), A/B split testing (1996), email auto-responders (1996), blogging (1997), push-button audio content (now known as “podcasting”) (2002), online video (2005), and mobile marketing (2008).

He was introduced to the practice of science as an undergraduate at Princeton University where he studied with Julian Jaynes (psychology) and Bart Hoebel (neuroscience). He’s currently actively involved in advancing innovations in neurology and rehabilitative medicine through his support of fundamental research. On February 1, 2020, he predicted in writing on two Twitters posts that: 1) the news out of China was suspect, 2) it gave the appearance of being a news media campaign for flu shots, and 3) it could possibly lead to the rapid development of dangerous coronavirus vaccines with more focus on speed than “science”. In August of 2020, Ken released the documentary “Fauci’s First Fraud” which was cited 28 times in the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. book “The Real Anthony Fauci.” He is author of the new book “What the Nurses Saw” about the systemic medical murders that took place and continue to take place under cover of COVID hysteria.

Important Links:

• Ken McCarthy on X
• What the Nurses Saw
• Weston A. Price
• Defeat the Mandates Rally: Behind the Scenes

 

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